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Slovak Same Sex Marriage/Adoption February 7 Referendum


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I hope the sexual euthanasia course broaches the topic of erotic asphyxiation tastefully

 

Explains why Walter didn't do anything to help Jane.

 



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Please tell me this is some kind of tasteless joke.

 

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I hope the sexual euthanasia course broaches the topic of erotic asphyxiation tastefully

Please tell me this is some kind of tasteless joke.

 

 

Oh no, not sexual euthanasia, that's almost as bad as abortion! Oh no. 


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I have NOT been following this at all. Anyone care to share a tl;dr?

The asexuals are on one side of this debate and the non-asexuals are on the other side of this debate. ;)



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I have NOT been following this at all. Anyone care to share a tl;dr?

The asexuals are on one side of this debate and the non-asexuals are on the other side of this debate. ;)

 

Also, erotic asphyxiation. 


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So was what death wrote a joke?

I know that there is such as thing as erotic asphyxiation.


People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered. Love them anyway. 
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If you are successful, you will win false friends and true enemies. Succeed anyway. 
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The biggest men and women with the biggest ideas can be shot down by the smallest men and women with the smallest minds. Think big anyway. 
People favor underdogs but follow only top dogs. Fight for a few underdogs anyway. 
What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. 
People really need help but may attack you if you do help them. Help people anyway. 
Give the world the best you have and you'll get kicked in the teeth. Give the world the best you have anyway.

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Yes, it was a joke.
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Yes, it was a joke.


This forum is dense.

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I have NOT been following this at all. Anyone care to share a tl;dr?

The asexuals are on one side of this debate and the non-asexuals are on the other side of this debate. ;)

 

I'm asexual and I'm all for Sex Education :p



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Sorry for not replying earlier guys, had a lot on my plate this week and yesterday I tried to reply but the webpage wouldn't let me, it kept saying error, did this happen to you guys as well or was it a problem with my own connection? So weird.

 

Okay so for everyone who answered with questions similar to "why would it not be okay for children aged 11-12 to have sex education talk when they hit puberty at that age", the answer is very simple: because they should not have sex at such a young age! It doesn't matter if they hit puberty at that age, some girls have periods as young as 9 years old! should 9-year-olds who've hit puberty have sex? NO! Nor shouldn't 12-year-olds. How is this so difficult to understand? What does an 11-year-old care about how people can catch STD's and get pregnant?! How is them learning how to masturbate and have sex (and learning that it is supposedly SO great to do it) going to benefit them in any way? Sex educators not only try to prevent pregnancies, they insinuate and even promote (safe) sex is okay! they are teaching this to twelve year old's! they aren't telling you you shouldn't, no wonder there are girls getting pregnant at that age! If you're 18+ and you want to have sex, fine, attend as many sex classes as you want, but not children, for Christ's sake. Children should focus on their studies and hobbies and their families and friends and good stuff like that.

 

Armchair anarchist, my point was if we don't and shouldn't talk or teach about it to 5-year-old kids then we shouldn't with 12-year-olds either. 

 

As for the other points made, I second Jakob's posts. And also, I'm sorry guys but you don't even need to be a transhumanist for you to live without sex, celibacy DOES work, or are you saying that you're gonna end up dead or mad from being celibate lol? Many people are celibate and they are perfectly fine, NOTHING will happen to you for not having sex believe me, since sex is NOT a necessity (sex for reproduction if you want biological children is another matter obviously - at least at the moment, though even then it isn't necessary). Some people just need to accept that sex is only a pointless activity most people do for sexual pleasure and this sex-positive and sex-glorification BS should not be forced on to children. Now as Jakob says, let's just wait for transhumanism. Sex will hopefully become a thing of the past eventually. And by sex I mean straight or gay, I don't care, I'm a huge lgbt supporter so it's not about that. Btw sorry if I come across as too angry/emotional, I'm okay haha, I just tend to get a bit worked up with these kind of topics 'cause I'm talking from experience here.



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It seems like you completely ignored everything said above in this thread, Jesse. Considering that, it's pointless to continue this discussion with you.

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Armchair anarchist, my point was if we don't and shouldn't talk or teach about it to 5-year-old kids then we shouldn't with 12-year-olds either. 

 

As for the other points made, I second Jakob's posts. And also, I'm sorry guys but you don't even need to be a transhumanist for you to live without sex, celibacy DOES work, or are you saying that you're gonna end up dead or mad from being celibate lol? Many people are celibate and they are perfectly fine, NOTHING will happen to you for not having sex believe me, since sex is NOT a necessity (sex for reproduction if you want biological children is another matter obviously - at least at the moment, though even then it isn't necessary). Some people just need to accept that sex is only a pointless activity most people do for sexual pleasure and this sex-positive and sex-glorification BS should not be forced on to children. Now as Jakob says, let's just wait for transhumanism. Sex will hopefully become a thing of the past eventually. And by sex I mean straight or gay, I don't care, I'm a huge lgbt supporter so it's not about that. Btw sorry if I come across as too angry/emotional, I'm okay haha, I just tend to get a bit worked up with these kind of topics 'cause I'm talking from experience here.

 

 

So your saying people shouldn't have sex for fun?

 

Why not.


People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered. Love them anyway. 
If you do good, people will accuse you of selfish ulterior motives. Do good anyway. 
If you are successful, you will win false friends and true enemies. Succeed anyway. 
The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. 
Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway. 
The biggest men and women with the biggest ideas can be shot down by the smallest men and women with the smallest minds. Think big anyway. 
People favor underdogs but follow only top dogs. Fight for a few underdogs anyway. 
What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. 
People really need help but may attack you if you do help them. Help people anyway. 
Give the world the best you have and you'll get kicked in the teeth. Give the world the best you have anyway.

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Armchair, I read all the replies so I don't think I "ignored" anything, there's a difference between ignoring a point and disagreeing with it. But I respect it if you think I did and don't want to bother discussing this with me anymore. Your choice. I'm not even asking anyone to reply to me anyway, this is a forum question and I simply answered.

 

I'm not saying people shouldn't have sex for fun. I'm saying they CAN live without sex for fun 'cause people were saying it "doesn't work" and that's unarguably false. As for children, yes I'm saying they shouldn't have sex, obviously. 

 

The only guys denouncing sex and claim to be celibate are the guys that can't get laid.

Are you talking about me? If so then you're terribly wrong because 1. I am not denouncing sex (I'm saying only adults should do it and that it's a pointless and unnecessary activity only done for pleasure - which is the truth), 2. I'm not celibate (I'm asexual), and 3. I could get laid if I wanted lol, I'm not ugly, and even if I were, ugly people get laid too you know.

 



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It seems like you completely ignored everything said above in this thread, Jesse. Considering that, it's pointless to continue this discussion with you.

 

I think that this form of approach is a little ignorant, even though I'm a hypocrite at saying this because I said the exact same thing at Italian UFO and KemotX. I think one should instead push towards trying a different method of showing their points in clarity, just as I'm about to do in my response towards JesseBrandon.

 

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To clear any misunderstandings and so you, JesseBrandon understand where I'm coming from, I'll try doing my responses more neatly and organized, because simply writing large blobs of text with opinions is not very practical.

 

My Point #1: Sexual education is needed so a child does not become confused when he hits puberty because confusion eventually leads to curiosity and a search for answers that can always be found in the wrong places. When a child learns, he is educated. He does not change his behavior as much as he just acquires knowledge he may need to use to be put into a positive direction. Sexual Education does not teach one how to have sex, it explains the biological function of your genitals, and what you should do when you hit puberty. Think of it as gaining your drivers license. It's a course that allows you to be prepared when you face a challenge.

 

My Point #2: Sexual education does not reduce the age in which teenagers have sex so it does not have any negative impact on how a child perceives sex.

 

Now, here are the point I have gained from your arguments.

 

Your Point #1: Children exposed before puberty will have sex when they hit puberty because they were exposed to sexual education, and therefore know how to perform it. Sex is useless, so these children can live without it throughout their life until adulthood.

 

Now your points are a little muddled, but I believe they can all be redirected to the point I've summarized above, which I hope properly reflects how you feel about this issue, now, I must point out my counter-arguments.

 

Counter-Argument #1: Children will have sex regardless as I've already pointed out previously. There is evidence that supports this claim that I've linked previously. Teaching sex and not teaching sex does not change the age kids on average will have sex, and with things  such as the internet, it does not help that children can now access pornography.

 

Counter-Argument #2: You're asexual, it's not something you would ever experience, and therefore something that is very hard for you to understand. Just it is very hard for me to understand why Frizz likes guys even though I think fucking big muscly sexy guys is revolting and I'd rather eat my own shit over it; you don't understand the driving force behind sexual implications. Sex is good. It feels good, and orgasms in general feel good. Just as chocolate cake tastes good, sex feels good. Just as happiness feels good, sex feels good. The reason behind sex feeling good is generally the fact that it releases endorphins, causing the a large feeling of euphoria. Sex also has positive health implications, so it also does do good. It's not just useless as you may think. Now, this argument is highlighted by the fact that you think kids are able to not have sex throughout their teenage lives for the "fun" of it because it's useless. You might as well tell teenagers to also not play video games as it is negatively affecting their studying and to also tell teenagers to not watch movies because movies have no benefit either.

 

To help you better understand why orgasms are something all non-asexuals strive for, I suggest reading Wikipedia's article on orgasms before coming to respond to my argument.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgasm






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