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The future of megatall buildings

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Their was a cool concept on Serious Wonder of a skyscraper hanging from a space station

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A fracture resistant cement could make mile high buildings possible

 


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Credit:  User Jogiba at www.skyscrapercity.com

Jeddah Tower as of January 2018


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I've been lurking on the skyscrapercity forums and it seems that Jeddah Tower is going very slowly. What's up?



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I've been lurking on the skyscrapercity forums and it seems that Jeddah Tower is going very slowly. What's up?

First of all, those people are really passionate about skyscrapers.  Apparently they're not in any hurry, from what I've read this is supposed to be part of a city that they're building in the middle of the desert.  The city itself is not supposed to be ready for a few decades, so there's no hurry.  Saudi Arabia is constantly going through some political turmoil, so funding is touchy.


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I've been lurking on the skyscrapercity forums and it seems that Jeddah Tower is going very slowly. What's up?

Oil crisis combined with deposition of many a prince. 


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I've been lurking on the skyscrapercity forums and it seems that Jeddah Tower is going very slowly. What's up?

First of all, those people are really passionate about skyscrapers.  Apparently they're not in any hurry, from what I've read this is supposed to be part of a city that they're building in the middle of the desert.  The city itself is not supposed to be ready for a few decades, so there's no hurry.  Saudi Arabia is constantly going through some political turmoil, so funding is touchy.

 

Yeah but still, it was supposed to be ready by this year/next year. And it was going slow before the purge.


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I've been lurking on the skyscrapercity forums and it seems that Jeddah Tower is going very slowly. What's up?

Gee, I wonder....
 
 

Saudi Arabia Cancels Quarter-Trillion Dollar Projects Due To Clinton Loss Cutting Off Flow Of Money

They Claim It Was Due To Oil Prices

Saudi Arabia’s governing economic body called the Council of Economic and Development Affairs (CEDA) has cancelled $266.7 billion in projects, the Saudi Press Agency said, and announced it would be settling much-delayed private-sector payments by year end.
 
The projects that have been canceled are the ones that are not expected to accelerate the kingdom’s growth or improve the living standards for its people.
The cancellations were first considered in September, but at the time, it was noted that only $20 billion in projects would be considered to put on the chopping block.
The size of the delayed payments—mainly due to severe hits to the kingdom’s oil revenue—remains undisclosed, but it includes delayed payments to construction firms, medical establishments, and foreign consultants. One analyst, according to Reuters, estimated that the amount still owing just to construction firms was US$21 billion.
The 2016 budget deficit will not be known until late December, when Saudi Arabia announces its 2017 budget plan.
Payment delays in the kingdom are nothing new. Last year in October, Saudi Arabia also experienced a delay in payments to contractors. Companies working on infrastructure projects had, in late 2015, met with payment delays that exceeded six months as the government tried to hang onto its cash as crude prices started to bite.
The measures taken by Saudi Arabia in 2015—tapping into foreign reserves, cutting spending, delaying projects, and selling bonds—seem to be reoccurring after another year of painful prices for the kingdom. And while Saudi Arabia has so far managed to tread financial water throughout the 2015 and 2016 oil price slump, many analysts feel that 2017 brings dimmer prospects to the state’s finances, despite all the efforts by OPEC members to stabilize the oil markets.

 
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no shit a space elevator doesn't have habitable space it isn't a thing and when it does become a thing of course it will have habitable space you wouldn't spend all the money needed to make one just for the purpose of building it



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The point Jakob was making was that a space elevator is a method of transportation rather than a megatall building in the sense being discussed in this thread. 

 

Its more of a structure you hang from an asteroid, so the details of its construction are very different to structures which support their weight through their base. This means any trends in skyscraper construction are not going to tell you much about when the first space elevator will be feasible. 

 

The feasibility of the first space elevator depends almost entirely on the progress of materials science, carbon nanotubes etc. and not so much on the construction industry and the global demand for tall buildings.

 

They're two different topics really. 



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The point Jakob was making was that a space elevator is a method of transportation rather than a megatall building in the sense being discussed in this thread. 

 

Its more of a structure you hang from an asteroid, so the details of its construction are very different to structures which support their weight through their base. This means any trends in skyscraper construction are not going to tell you much about when the first space elevator will be feasible. 

 

The feasibility of the first space elevator depends almost entirely on the progress of materials science, carbon nanotubes etc. and not so much on the construction industry and the global demand for tall buildings.

 

They're two different topics really. 

Yeah I was just going off the CTBUH definition of a building.



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As a person who grew up outside of Baltimore and still visits the city regularly, I'm amused by the prospect of "supertall" buildings. There are many U.S. cities--overwhelmingly in the northeastern quadrant of the country--that have been depopulating for decades, and that have large sections of empty or nearly empty land, even in their downtown cores. Additionally, a lot of space is dedicated to low-density, outdated housing and parking lots. 

 

At least in cities like Baltimore, Detroit, and Chicago, supertall buildings would be symbols of waste rather than progress until they've massively increased the number of high-quality, medium-height, conventional buildings. 



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Actually, I'm not sure we're going to see many megatall buildings in the US anytime soon. Their natural habitat is likely going to remain in the East and global South, where very large numbers of people are still moving into cities for the first time.


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Actually, I'm not sure we're going to see many megatall buildings in the US anytime soon. Their natural habitat is likely going to remain in the East and global South, where very large numbers of people are still moving into cities for the first time.

Even in most of those cities in the East and global South, I bet the money would be better spent on smaller buildings. They're mostly vanity projects, not practical ones. 







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