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When aging will become fully reversible?


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When do you think aging will be reversible like turning a 110 years old person look like a 20 years old?I think it will become fully reversible by the early 22 nd century between 2100-2120.



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Depends on how pro-science our society remains...But I'd guess 2180?


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2060 At latest 2035 for optimistic 2050 realistic i think due to shrinking of technology and exponential growth of genomics.


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2180 we wont even be flesh and blood humans by then.

Sasuke's predictions are far more realistic.

 

My thoughts are 2035-2040 mainly because everything we

thought was going to take awhile lately is getting here that much faster

such as quantum computers lately being brought forward to ten years away.



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2023- is a competely optimistic estimate. Probably not fully reversible but some sort of therapies available.

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Too bad i'm 19...

Therapies are already emerging today so to say that therapies will be available to the public in 6-7 years is not that brazen imo.

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Too bad i'm 19...

Therapies are already emerging today so to say that therapies will be available to the public in 6-7 years is not that brazen imo.

 

Which one of the many candidates for rejuvenation therapies do you think will be viable in that timeframe?

 

Clearing our bodies of cell senescence? Curing of macular degeneration via gene therapy?

 

Or even a successful migration of mitochondrial genes into the cell nucleus?


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I was thinking something like metformin  being approved as something to combat the aging process. Of course this requires the recognition of aging as a disease. 


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I was thinking something like metformin  being approved as something to combat the aging process. Of course this requires the recognition of aging as a disease. 

It's not a disease, it's physical decay, which manifests itself in humans as gray hair, wrinkles, physical and mental decline, and increased susceptibility to actual diseases. Combating physical decay in humans is a reasonable goal, I'm just saying never to expect that it will completely be done. How do you know that new forms of decay won't start showing up once people routinely live to 150?


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^http://www.ncbi.nlm....es/PMC4471741/

 

"The reason commonly cited against classifying aging as a disease is that it constitutes a natural and universal process, while diseases are seen as deviations from the normal state (Caplan, 1992). The distinction between natural and unnatural may depend on the notion of design, purpose, and function (Hausman and Kennedy, 1975; Becker and Becker, 2001). Evolutionary theory of aging teaches us that aging is caused by the decrease in the force of selection against alleles with deleterious effects later in life (Williams, 1957). Aging is thus the consequence of evolutionary neglect, not evolutionary intent (Olshansky et al., 2002). If aging serves no purpose then the notion of aging as a natural process might be mistaken (Caplan, 2005)."

 

People living to 150 would give technology an immeasurable (figuratively speaking) amount of time to solve any problems which may arise. After all 20 years, forget 70, is a highly respectable amount of time in any field of science/technology and especially considering that medicine to a large degree is becoming an information technology. Complete understanding of systems leads to the possibility of systems being maintained indefinitely.  The extension of our life on the magnitude of 70 years will ipso facto be a reason to believe that we will understand the majority of underlying mechanisms and be able to sustain them. Forget about the fact that we won't stay purely biological.


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The wrinkles under my eye have noticed a lot and my upper eyelid looks so much tighter and less droopy, which is  bonus. I am very pleased with the serum from dermalmd product.



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The wrinkles under my eye have noticed a lot and my upper eyelid looks so much tighter and less droopy, which is  bonus. I am very pleased with the serum from dermalmd product.

I don't know if this is an ad, or you just misunderstand.  Looking younger does not mean you will live longer.  In fact, some "anti-aging" products actually harm you in the long run.  We are actually talking about living past the human lifespan


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If singularity comes by 2045, then, anti-aging might come around 2050. I would be 59 years old, my parents would be 88 and 93 years old if theyre still alive, wich is possible , specially with the new therapies that would come before.



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Removing old cells has been shown to increase youthfulness in mice and increase life spans by 20% to 30%. Clinical trials in humans could be just a few years away.


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If singularity comes by 2045, then, anti-aging might come around 2050. I would be 59 years old, my parents would be 88 and 93 years old if theyre still alive, wich is possible , specially with the new therapies that would come before.

Just because anti-aging comes around, does not mean that everyone would suddenly live forever.


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If singularity comes by 2045, then, anti-aging might come around 2050. I would be 59 years old, my parents would be 88 and 93 years old if theyre still alive, wich is possible , specially with the new therapies that would come before.

Just because anti-aging comes around, does not mean that everyone would suddenly live forever.

 

 

Right, even Aubrey de Grey said when anti-aging rejuvenation therapies first arrive, they'll only going to marginally increase our lifespans at first, like adding 10-15 years or something like that. He said things will get pretty interesting after we've underwent several therapies over the following decades when rejuvenation therapies get more robust than before, by which we will begin to see exponentially larger increments of years added to our lifespans for every visit we make. That's the theory underpinning longevity escape velocity which is sort of like the Singularity for aging reversal.

 

So, it is possible for a 85 year-old to get the very first anti-aging rejuvenation and then live just long enough to experience the next set of rejuvenations which will add even more years to his life, making him younger than the moment he underwent the first rejuvenation.

 

I think I might be that 85 year old. Well, I hope so.


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If singularity comes by 2045, then, anti-aging might come around 2050. I would be 59 years old, my parents would be 88 and 93 years old if theyre still alive, wich is possible , specially with the new therapies that would come before.

Just because anti-aging comes around, does not mean that everyone would suddenly live forever.

 

 

Right, even Aubrey de Grey said when anti-aging rejuvenation therapies first arrive, they'll only going to marginally increase our lifespans at first, like adding 10-15 years or something like that. He said things will get pretty interesting after we've underwent several therapies over the following decades when rejuvenation therapies get more robust than before, by which we will begin to see exponentially larger increments of years added to our lifespans for every visit we make. That's the theory underpinning longevity escape velocity which is sort of like the Singularity for aging reversal.

 

So, it is possible for a 85 year-old to get the very first anti-aging rejuvenation and then live just long enough to experience the next set of rejuvenations which will add even more years to his life, making him younger than the moment he underwent the first rejuvenation.

 

I think I might be that 85 year old. Well, I hope so.

 

If I interpret anti-aging correctly, then it could be medicine to be immortal. Then you can live forever, but at the age of 85, you will not be younger or older than that.

I wouldn't take this pill if I'm 85 y.o, because being immortal at such an old age, you cannot do anything with it. Live forever in senior house?...hmm...no


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If I interpret anti-aging correctly, then it could be medicine to be immortal. Then you can live forever, but at the age of 85, you will not be younger or older than that.

I wouldn't take this pill if I'm 85 y.o, because being immortal at such an old age, you cannot do anything with it. Live forever in senior house?...hmm...no

 

You wouldn't be stuck looking your age.  Even if you don't want to become transhuman, then there will be stem cell treatments that will make your bones, muscles, organs, and skin healthy


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