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Oh how times have changed.

 

In the 1950s Senator Joseph McCarthy goes on a paranoid witch hunt to expel Communists from the U.S. government.

 

In 2016, Hillary Clinton is roundly criticized for sharing maybe a couple of dozen classified emails  via a non-governmental server. Presumably, because of the "security risk" that this poses.

 

Yet, when the Soviet Union still existed, Trump:

 

(from the article cited at the bottom of the previous page)

 

 

 ..gets an invitation to go on an all-expenses-paid trip behind the Iron Curtain to Soviet Moscow. Now, a couple of things which were important here. One of them is that his trip was arranged by Intourist, which is the Soviet travel agency. Now, I've talked to defectors and others who say - this is actually fairly well-known - that Intourist is basically the KGB. 

 

I guess if you call yourself a Republican, all manner of collusion and treachery is acceptable, but if you call yourself a Democrat, then the slightest breach of security is grounds for ending your career.

 

Oh, and remember when I first suggested a Russia - Trump collusion:  why, I was indulging in a conspiracy theory.  After all, if it were true, there would be constant headline articles about such collusion. 

 

Of course, now there are constant headline articles about that collusion.  But hey, Trump calls himself a Republican, so all is forgiven?

 

No, no, wait, it is all fake news.  Just like global warming is fake news, etc.

 

Wake up, people.


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It definitely sounds like collusion, but not the kind people are imagining. It's not the kind like in the movies, where people use secret code-words and where there is atonal music in the background to let you know everything is off. It's more like: Trump or Trump associates have dinner with such and so guy with government connections, and the whole discussion just sounds like a business deal. Maybe the "opposition research" obtained by hackers all took place through private enterprise, using hackers-for-hire -- no highly-trained government agents involved. "Is it really any worse than what Steele did for Hillary?" is the usual causistry.

It's not even clear it was so well-planned. It's more like a mafia operation. Mafia dons aren't that smart. They don't plan. They just do business -- including maybe hiring a contract-killer.

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Maybe this is why trump is flipping out today. Flynn testimony delayed pending plea deal.
http://www.cnn.com/2...lynn/index.html

 

    CNN) Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team has postponed an anticipated grand jury testimony linked to his investigation into Michael Flynn amid growing indications of possible plea deal discussions.

    Additional witnesses were expected to be questioned soon including a public relations consultant hired by Flynn's lobbying firm who was given an early December date deadline to appear before the grand jury, according to a person at the company.

    Ahead of the delay, the impression was that the testimony needed to happen soon, the source said.

 

 

They're coming to take him away, haha.


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One more part to that NPR interview worth pointing out:
 

So that was a sort of tactical triumph for Putin. But in other respects, it was a strategic failure because actually sanctions are still in place. It's now impossible for Donald Trump to lift them. And I think what it shows is that the problem with the way the Kremlin thinks about the world is that it imagines other countries to be rather like Russia. It doesn't understand American institutional politics. It doesn't understand Congress. It doesn't understand there's a sort of free and vigorous media despite everything. And on this occasion, it kind of got everything, but the big prize has therefore eluded it.


Putin thinks the U.S. is like Russia, where with the wave of his hand, Trump can make the sanctioms go away, like an authoritartian leader might do. Trump has much less power than he imagines.

The thing about Russia's limited free press might be true, but Russia does have some free press; probably much less than the U.S., where the press is free, but sometimes biased.
 
Another interesting detail is how powerfully negative the sanctions have been:
 

And the thing is, sort of sanctions play into the Russian domestic political conversation because despite what state TV says there they have had an overwhelmingly negative effect on the economy. People have felt them, they're fantastically irritated. Putin's kind of oligarchic inner circle, many of whom are now sanctioned. They can't travel to the U.S., they can't travel to the European Union. They can no longer access their yachts in the Mediterranean or their wine cellars in Switzerland. They see this as an affront and an indignity.



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CNN Exclusive: Jared Kushner met with special counsel about Flynn
Source: CNN

 

Washington (CNN)Jared Kushner met earlier this month with Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team as part of the investigation into Russia's meddling in the election, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

Mueller's team specifically asked Kushner about former national security advisor Michael Flynn, who is under investigation by the special counsel, two sources said. Flynn was the dominant topic of the conversation, one of the sources said.

"Mr. Kushner has voluntarily cooperated with all relevant inquiries and will continue to do so," Abbe Lowell, Kushner's lawyer, told CNN.

The conversation lasted less than 90 minutes, one person familiar with the meeting said, adding that Mueller's team asked Kushner to clear up some questions he was asked by lawmakers and details that emerged through media reports. One source said the nature of this conversation was principally to make sure Kushner doesn't have information that exonerates Flynn.

 

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2...nsel/index.html


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The vacancy at the CIA would likely be filled, according to the tentative plan, by Sen. Tom Cotton, a hawkish Arkansas Republican, the sources said.

 

 

There's no decision yet on the timing of Tillerson's departure, which has been expected for months. But multiple sources close to the White House and across government said Pompeo is the leading candidate to take over at the State Department.
 
Pompeo, a former Republican congressman from Kansas, has grown increasingly close to the President in recent months. Their bond has largely formed over the President's free-wheeling daily intelligence briefings, which one White House official said Pompeo delivers in person three to four times a week. After the briefings, Trump frequently asks Pompeo to stick around to speak more one-on-one, the official said.

 


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Joe Scarborough: Trump in 'early stages of dementia,' people close to him tell me
 

"MSNBC host Joe Scarborough said Thursday that people close to President Trump during the 2016 campaign told him the commander in chief “had early stages of dementia.”


On “Morning Joe,” Scarborough warned the U.S. is closer to a ground war on the Korean Peninsula than most Americans realize, urging Cabinet members to take action on removing Trump from the presidency because he’s “completely detached from reality.”

“You serve America and you know it,” Scarborough said. “You know you don’t serve Donald J. Trump … You don’t represent him. You represent 320 million people whose lives are literally in your hands and we are facing a showdown with a nuclear power.”

He continued: “People close to him say [he’s] mentally unfit. People close to him during the campaign told me [he] had early stages of dementia.”"

 


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ON Twitter, Nicole Wallace said TRUMP IS GOING NUTS

Sources inside the White House sound the alarm that Trump is growing increasingly delusional.
With no one to give him a reality check, the man in control of the world's most powerful military is running wild, as he slips further away from reality.

YOUTUBE VIDEO IS HERE

Wallace said that what she is hearing from inside the White House, “is that he increasingly projects a delusional version of himself to himself and his Twitter followers.
This is someone staring in the mirror of his own most rabid fans, and feeding them only what he thinks they will believe without acknowledging that it’s moving further
and further away from reality.”
Eli Stokols of The Wall Street Journal added, “I’ve heard the word delusional from some folks as well.” Stokols added that there is no one in the administration to give the President a reality check, which means that the delusional president is running wild in the White House.
Trump is increasingly making delusional statements about himself and his presidency in public. The President is not well, and it is past time for many in the media and the government to stop avoiding the discussion about Trump’s mental state and competency. If Trump really is delusional, he should not be allowed to continue as President Of The United States.

 

http://www.politicus...ntal-state.html


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A key witness in the Russia probe had a 'lengthy conversation' with Trump at Mar-a-Lago
Natasha Bertrand
Nov. 27, 2017, 12:55 PM

 

Former CIA Director James Woolsey dined with President Donald Trump last weekend at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida — where, a report said, they had a "lengthy conversation" at the main dining table surrounded by several of Trump's friends, associates, and political allies.

A tipster told Politico's Playbook about the conversation, which raised eyebrows given Woolsey's centrality to the special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Michael Flynn, the former national security adviser.

http://www.businessi...-a-lago-2017-11

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Jaws Drop As Jeff Sessions All But Admits That Trump Obstructed Justice
By Jason Easley at Politicus USA

http://www.politicus...ed-justice.html

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When asked by the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) if Trump ever directed him to hinder the Russia investigation, Attorney General Jeff Sessions refused to answer the question.

Manu Raju of CNN reported:

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Schiff’s question is easy to answer if the answer is no. The only reason for Attorney General Session to decline to answer is that any answer that he could provide would damage Trump. Anyone who has watched Jeff Sessions testify since he became Attorney General knows that the refusal to answer due to the privacy of the conversation is one of his favorite go-to moves when he is trying to avoid providing damaging information to the Russia investigation.

If the answer was no, all Sessions had to do was say no, and it would help boost the President’s claims that he did not obstruct justice. The Attorney General’s refusal to answer was an answer itself. There have been media reports for months that Trump wanted to fire Sessions because he wouldn’t interfere and make the Russia investigation go away.

.........SNIP"

 


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****BREAKING**** Trump tried to obstruct Senate Russia investigations
 

    WASHINGTON — President Trump over the summer repeatedly urged senior Senate Republicans, including the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, to end the panel’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, according to a half dozen lawmakers and aides. Mr. Trump’s requests were a highly unusual intervention from a president into a legislative inquiry involving his family and close aides.

    Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina, the intelligence committee chairman, said in an interview this week that Mr. Trump told him that he was eager to see an investigation that has overshadowed much of the first year of his presidency come to an end.

    “It was something along the lines of, ‘I hope you can conclude this as quickly as possible,’” Mr. Burr said. He said he replied to Mr. Trump that “when we have exhausted everybody we need to talk to, we will finish.”

    In addition, according to lawmakers and aides, Mr. Trump told Senator...

 

 

https://www.nytimes....nate-intel.html


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Edit: First story added:

 

Michael Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI
 
 
Introduction:

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, marking another milestone in the wide-ranging probe of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

 

Flynn’s admission to the charge Friday in federal district court in D.C. is an ominous sign for the White House, as court documents indicate Flynn is cooperating in the ongoing probe of possible coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin to influence the 2016 election. The plea relates to false statements Flynn made to the FBI on January 24 — four days after President Trump was inaugurated — about his conversations with Kislyak during the transition.

 

[Read the charge against Michael Flynn]

 

Flynn admitted making false statements to the FBI about asking the ambassador in late December to “refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed on Russia that same day.” Flynn also told authorities he did not recall the ambassador “subsequently telling him that Russia has chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request,” according to a court filing. That would suggest there was a second, previously unknown contact between Flynn and Kislyak.

 

Separately, authorities say Flynn lied about asking the ambassador to delay a vote on United Nations Security Council resolutions.

 

 

 

Flynn's Deal Looks Really Good - Which Could Mean His Information Is Really Powerful

 

https://www.dailykos.com/

 

Introduction:

 

(Daily Kos) News that former national security adviser Michael Flynn would plead guilty to lying to the FBI came after weeks of speculation surrounding potential charges and deals. With his actions as an unregistered lobbyist for Turkey, his scheme to kidnap a Muslim cleric in exchange for a $15 million payoff, and failure to properly report multiple trips overseas—including one that involved a genuine Russian nuclear scheme—the list of potential charges against Flynn is lengthy. Flynn’s son is also exposed as a candidate for serious charges, considering his involvement in many of these deals.

 

But the plea that Flynn made on Friday admitted only lying to the FBI concerning his meetings with the Russian ambassador. The details of the plea are significant, in that they are directly tied to the Trump campaign and to Russia. However, while lying to the FBI can be a significant charge, it’s a charge rarely levied on its own (see Martha Stewart).

 

However, multiple sources have indicated that Flynn and Mueller have concluded their agreement, suggesting that this may be the only charge Flynn faces. Which leads to the question of why? What kind of deal would allow Flynn and his son to walk away from multiple, serious charges with what could amount to little more than a slap on the wrist?

 

One clue is George Papadopoulos. His deal with Mueller also includes a charge of lying to the FBI. Which suggests that this is Mueller’s go-to charge for those who have agreed to cooperate with the investigation. 

 


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I mean this kind of deal can only mean that Flynn is cooperating and providing details that might implicate people higher up. The only higher up people that are really left are the vice-president and president. Of course, there is still Kushner and Trump Jr. left. I'm waiting to see Donalds usual flurry of distracting tweets. 


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I'm waiting to see Donalds usual flurry of distracting tweets. 

 

He can try.

 

Mueller is an arrow, aiming straight for the jugular. He's too shrewd. 


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Buzz Feed confirms: it was Jared who ordered Flynn to call the Russians
and @BuzzFeedNews confirms: it was Jared who ordered Flynn to call the Russians, "according to a person who was present in the room when Flynn took the call"
 

 

It Was Kushner Who Told Flynn To Make Calls About Israel UN Vote, Source Says

The president's son-in-law prompted the Dec. 22 call to Russia's ambassador that is the focus of Flynn's guilty plea Friday

WASHINGTON – Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law, called Michael Flynn in December 2016 and told him to call members of the UN Security Council in an effort to stop a vote on a resolution critical of Israeli settlement policy, according to a person who was present in the room when Flynn took the call.

Flynn then called Russia’s then-ambassador to the United States to seek his assistance, and later lied to the FBI about having done so, according to documents filed in federal court Friday by special counsel Robert Mueller that explained Flynn’s guilty plea on two counts of lying to federal agents.

The documents do not say on whose behalf Flynn contacted Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, identifying the person only as “a very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team.”

But a Trump transition official who was in the room where Flynn took a call regarding the upcoming UN Security Council vote said Flynn identified the caller as Kushner.

 


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JUST IN: Special counsel releases statement of the offense on Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty this morning to making false statements to the FBI. http://abcn.ws/2AjyKq2


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Ex-White House ethics chiefs predict that Kushner or Don Jr. are next in line after Flynn
The former chief White House ethics lawyers for Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama wrote a riveting New York Times op-ed following the guilty plea of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.


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    Part of Flynn's plea agreement is him agreeing to potentially "[participate] in covert law enforcement activities." https://www.justice....015121/download

 

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JARED KUSHNER CANT PASS HIS SECURITY CLEARANCE INVESTIGATION, OFFICIALS SAY
BY CHRIS RIOTTA at Newsweek

http://www.newsweek....ld-trump-723993

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Updated | Jared Kushner is a security risk embedded in the West Wing since he still hasn't passed a comprehensive background investigation required of anyone seeking a permanent security clearance—and no one will question the president's decision to put his son-in-law in a crucial government role, experts and officials told Newsweek.

President Donald Trump's senior adviser has been working under an interim security clearance nearly a year into the administration, as investigators continue to assess his trustworthiness and analyze his web of active foreign investments, according to two sources with knowledge of the status on Kushner's clearance.

Kushner's permanent security clearance was stalled because he initially omitted 100 foreign contacts before revising his forms three times. Kushner's complicated business interests are also being considered after he repeatedly revised financial disclosure forms. But experts said the sheer volume of his ongoing ties to foreign investors is enough to deny anyone access to classified information.

"The real question is, Why hasn't his clearance been denied?" said Alan Edmunds, a senior attorney specializing in security clearance law at the Edmunds Law Firm. "Of course, the real reason it hasn’t been denied yet is because nobody has the moxie to tell the president his son-in-law can't be working in the White House, even though he shouldn't be."

 


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