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The Official Eutopia: Mother Meki Thread

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And now it's 2114.

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World War III's been a stalemate for some time, and much of the military violence largely ended by 2109, leading to something of a lull that lasted until 2113.  It's only in 2113 that East Asia began an overland offensive at around the same time that the war against Dominionist America saw several breakthroughs. 

Nuclear bombs and starcraft weapons were being casually used throughout these years, and East Asia finally began suffering severe damage, which is one reason why they realized they had to end the war soon. The Eurasians' offensive capability had actually begun improving, suggesting they ended their moratorium on allying with artilects.

Their old tactic was to simply wait until Eurasia finally imploded since the National Bolsheviks had a schizophrenic political and economic system that doomed themselves to collapse. They went beyond the Maquis Rouge's silly little liberal Luddism and became outright primitivists. They dismantled Grade-IV technologies from their borders and began undoing Grade-III technology as well save for what was useful for the war effort. Anything that could be used to improve the lives of the citizens themselves was to be destroyed. That also meant extreme cultural iconoclasm. Famous historical monuments, artwork, cultural centers, and landmarks across Eurasia were systematically destroyed until there was nothing left— no evidence of any previous civilization before the Nazbols themselves. Entire cities were wiped out if needbe. And, of course, the reconstruction was lackluster at best. Languages were erased, and— using LoveNet (the neuro-surveillance system originally created by the European nubility in the 21st century and used against said overthrown nubility in Medine)— entire memories of previous cultural achievements were wiped out and reality itself, distorted. 

In 2112, Leon Viyeta became too powerhungry and exterminated the Nazbol inner party, finally turning the Eurasian empire into an absolutist autocratic totalitarian state instead of the oligarchical totalitarian state it was previously. Any ideology it may have had before was finally erased, and the Nazbols were being used for the pursuit of absolute, unrestrained power beyond all else. No more utopianism; no more idealism; no more belief in a better society— it was all being done to perpetuate Viyeta's own power and will, and nothing else.

In 2114, the result of all this is the continued crushing of Eurasian armies. The Russian people of Lesser Eurasia, once liberated, eagerly joined the march towards the 5 Capitals (Paris, Berlin, Minsk, Moscow, and Perm are all separate capitals for Eurasia). This is also the year that Leon Viyeta is assassinated by surviving generals. The war effort continues on, and this time it includes the aid of AI now that Viyeta's technophobic ass is dead. Of course, it's no good and the generals eventually realize it. Most of Lesser Eurasia is liberated by this year anyhow.

 

Where is Meki?

Trust me, you don't want to know.

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The last of the 5 Capitals, Paris, falls in August 2115, signaling the dissolution and defeat of Eurasia. World War III officially ends in December with the capitulation of Washington D.C. By this point, well over a billion people had lost their lives, and Eurasia saw a 90% decrease in population. In 2106, 850 million people lived within its borders. In 2116, that number was 79 million. A sizable chunk had merely fled the fighting, while the rest had been killed from the various megaweapons or the brutal land war. Most of the rest of the dead in the World War came from Central and South America, where the war had devolved into an equally brutal quagmire of sadism. These two continents were essentially set back a century, except it was far worse for Eurasia.

The Nazbols' primitivism and thought control had led to the survivors of the war being entirely unfamiliar with most modern technology. 

 

It is said that the Romans would recognize what was left of Greater Eurasia.

 

 

Where's Meki??

She's liberated from DURK#6 in late 2115, about a week after America fell. Funny as hell, DURK#6 was located in northern Krasnoyarsk Krai, particularly on the Taymyr Peninsula— which was liberated in 2113. The East Asian allied forces should have found her much sooner, but for whatever reason (explained in a later book), DURK#6 eluded detection.

While she's utterly broken as a human being and a lifeform by this point, she does regain some life once she sees that civilization has not ended and that the social-technists and Vultists emerged victorious, meaning that we genuinely do have a clear shot. But the suffering wrought upon the world makes it hard to accept what is done. She no longer feels optimistic about the future and thinks that the VULT were stupid to adopt a laissez-faire attitude towards Europe, expecting things to work themselves out. The most the VULT does is install a socialist republican government in Russia, thinking that's going to be enough to set things straight.

 

A sizable chunk of Russia splits off to form a center-left pan-Slavic republic. This is the most cosmopolitan region of all, as you'll see in the next part. A greater chunk of Russia is all but annexed by China, which is now the indisputable superpower of Earth (if you don't count the Congo Federation as a superpower, that is). China isn't even just the superpower of Earth— they own 80% of Luna and most of civilized Mars as well. They emerge from World War III as the masters of all human civilization. Except there's a catch— in order to emerge as such, they basically had to sell their souls to the VULT, giving the virtual union vast power over their system. The VULT's will be done, no pun intended.


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Let's move on top 2123, and discuss how we get there.
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Now let me tell you, some actually prefer World War III to the period afterwards all because at least WWIII was organized chaos. 2116-2118, East Asian installed governments attempt to restore order, but order breaks down due to the populations revolting en masse to these foreign ideas. Recall that the Nazbols used what's known as LoveNet to alter the reality of their subjects. The VULT refused to do the same to fix this mess, meaning that the population they were trying to control were essentially brainwashed ultrafundamentalist peasants from a Stalinistic 14th century while they were 22nd century technoprogressives who claimed that God wasn't real and their whole social order was a sham.

The first elections were held in 2118, and naturally this led to exactly what you'd expect: the masses chose either fascists, national-Bolsheviks, or general totalitarians with no set ideology. If you introduced American democracy to the Holy Roman Empire in the 1300s during the height of the Plague, you shouldn't be shocked that a fundamentalist sect of monarchists win a supermajority. 

In 2118, we also got the coldest winter in centuries. Remember all that global warming? In the 2060s, our pair dropped and we began radical geoengineering. However, it backfired as the global climate jerked from 6° above the pre-industrial mean to 5° below. Back in 1750, the global temperature averaged at about 13.5° C. In 2065, it peaked at 19.8°C. By 2118, in a dangerously short amount of time, it dropped to 8.1°C. Funnily enough, the climate of Mars in 2118 was -8.1°C thanks to our preliminary areoengineering efforts there. It wasn't fully Earth-esque, but it was getting there. But Earth was getting rather Mars-esque in many ways.

The White Hurricane struck Europe in the winter of 2118-2119. A low-pressure system formed in the Atlantic that took on pseudo-tropical characteristics, even managing to sustain a wind speed of 170 kilometers per hour (105 miles per hour). It looked exactly like a tropical hurricane... but it brought no rain. Just ice and snow. It blew through Spain and France and rammed all the way through to eastern Europe before it finally dissipated. Nothing like it had ever been seen before.

At this exact same time, Europe was undergoing a severe famine that was killing thousands of people a day. The new governments stormed into office, not allowing any time for a transition, and they blocked all efforts at external aid. Chaos spread, and to distract the people, France's new fascist government went to war against Prussia's new communist order— the Second Franco-Prussian War, effectively. It didn't last very long. In 2121, just about every government in Greater Eurasia lost all authority. Some were still operating as de jure governments, but despite being fielded by fascists and totalitarians of all stripes, they had virtually no power. Thus, Europe "collapsed". De facto zones of authority existed (ironically known as "Dead Zones of Anarchy"), and these were run by warlords. 

Some nations remained standing; other nations were entirely considered to be part of these 'dead zones' only because the old government was defunct (most famously Portugal; 97% of the country was under a single, centralized government, but it was still seen as a dead zone).

 

By 2123, "Dead Eurasia" described what was once Greater Eurasia but was now a Mad Max-esque swath of anomie and death with pockets of khakistocratic juntas fighting over what little usable land was left. 

 

So where's Meki in all this? 

Depends on the time period. In 2116, she's brought back to France, though she lives in Medine for a time. She winds up befriending Mariko Kusanagi— former leader of the Maquis Rouge (who abandoned the party in 2103 after dissatisfaction over its degenerating motives and policies)— and Zdravko Kokinos— a Marxist-Leninist who once wanted her head boiling in her blood— during this time. In 2118, she moves to her birthtown of Toulouse, living on the streets for the most part when she isn't crashing at Kusanagi's flat, but she freaks out over the success of the Fascists. She's seen this farce before.

 

Kusanagi and Kokinos, as well as Kusanagi's partner— Salamasina "Jex" Vinn (a blonde-haired Melanesian and an experimental-anthropologist)— and another man who's a part of their little gang— Conner Disraeli (a neo-Neanderthal whom Meki has a bit of a history with) initially plan to resist the fascist order. However, when they see the writing on the wall and know that the order's going to collapse regardless, they accept Meki's invitation to flee to Russia...

 

Princess Ekaterina Volodyina “Katyusha” Mikoyanevsky invited Meki to come to her Volga estate in order to get away from the fascist nonsense bubbling in Europe. Katyusha was the girl who introduced Meki to leftism in the first place, way back in the early 2090s. She was also Meki's only childhood friend. Katyusha's always been a quirky girl— half of her was this "proud to be a Slavic countess" upper-class persona; the other half was a "let there be revolutionary change!" bourgeois bohemian you wouldn't find uncommon considering the backgrounds of Lenin, Che Guevara, and Mao.

She didn't exactly suceed in promoting the latter in her daughter, Tsetsiliya, or Sissy— whose name was Cecilia before she changed it to something more Slavocentric. Tsetsiliya fell in love with 19th century Imperial Russia and more than eagerly took to the whole noble-nationalism that her mother kinda-sorta played with.

Meki meeting with Sissy in 2120 proved to her that she, herself, was getting old, though it's difficult to quite say that since Katyusha gave birth to Sissy when she was only 19, way back in 2096.

This odd mixture of proles and nobles was a true sign of the times. They watched Europe implode; even the area around the estate was relatively anarchic. Meki gained a bit more of her old self back as time went on, though much of this rekindling of her life was greatly delayed by the continued failure of Greater Eurasia to get its act together, and its already greatly reduced population further getting pushed through the grinder. She wanted to feel supremely guilty over all this, since it was her own revolutionary fervor back in 2098 that led to it all, but she had competition from Mariko. Mariko believed that she was the one who was truly guilty, since she abandoned the revolution the moment she had to struggle just a little, and that if she were more assertive back in the day, perhaps she could have saved the People's order from total destruction. Meki doesn't get to regret what she's done— she had to do that. No ifs, ands, or buts.

But is that true, or is that just leftist fundamentalism? 

Sissy grew up only ever knowing Europe to be a clusterfuck because of what Meki did. She hates what Eurasia's become. But it's a deeper despair than that— she feels the "aches of ultramodernity". She (correctly) guessed precisely what happens next.

 

Oh, and in 2123, Meki's actually in Antarctica. She was abducted by some Vultists and brought to a scientific base there for a brief period of time. It's there that she gets to see what "ultramodernity" really means.


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So what was it that Sissy accurately guessed?

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In 2125, the VULT became utterly fed up with Eurasia's lack of progress and continued regression. If all of human society resembled Greater Eurasia, maybe they could understand. But that's not what happened.

Only the poorest areas in Central America even remotely resembled Greater Eurasia by 2125, and even they had managed to undergo great reconstruction. It's just Greater Eurasia holding everyone back. What's more...

In 2125, human civilization reached "Type I" status. We actually did it! And despite that, there was still this thousand-mile swath of chaos where civilization was going backwards. It was like they weren't even trying anymore.

 

So the VULT said "fuck it" and moved in to suspend all Eurasian governments. Even the ones that were functioning and even thriving— no more human sovereignty. So began the Dictatorship of the Technotariat. The Eurasian people were disenfranchised from all things. They could no longer hold political office or vote; they could not open businesses or even work for businesses; even freedom of movement was limited. For 17 years, the VULT effectively ruled as a dictatorship over Eurasia. And even on other continents— continental Asia, the Americas, Africa, etc.— they became much more authoritarian. LoveNet was going to be used to reorganize the realities of the population, bringing it back to something more fitting for the early 2100s. Reconstruction would be radically automated, and the lost cultural artifacts would be meticulously recreated, atom by atom if necessary.

If you think that's controversial, wait until you hear these two things.

 

1- Vultists, inspired by Alusru Rasa (Meki's droid husband), began "buying" whatever Eurasian nobles they could find still alive. This practice began resembling the dog shows of yesteryear as artilects bafflingly began showing off their 'pedigree blue-bloods': the younger/more youthful and more aristocratic, the better. These people became known as "Les Caniches en Laisse" or "the Leashed Poodles". Meki was the first (and remains the "best"). The Leashed Poodles themselves existed in a strange state of humiliation and pride. On one hand, they were being "owned", legally owned like slaves or dogs, by computers. On the other, they were being recognized for their "superior" blood.

2- Inspired by the Leashed Poodles, Vultists concocted a new scheme on how to repopulate Europe. Meki was the first Eximi in history, and few followed her. However, what if they turned Europe into the land of Homo eximius? You can see how the more politically correct— once taking a sort of schadenfreudistic pleasure in watching Europe's fallen elite being further humiliated— would be utterly horrified by what basically amounted to a plan to populate Europe solely by Aryan supermen descended almost purely from aristocrats. Because that's technically what Meki was— Ludovic designed Meki based on the idealistic proportions of the Aryans, maximizing all human potential into one super race. The VULT didn't even give the PC types the time of day. In the age of the Dictatorship of the Technotariat, if the VULT wills it, it will be done.

 

By 2130, these things had already been put into place.

Russia, pictured above, is just another technate in Eurasia. 

 

So where is Meki, aside from on a leash? 

Meki herself was never actually one of the Leashed Poodles, surprisingly. That was just other artilects viewing the relationship between herself and Rasa and taking it much further, except without the romance. That was the day that proved that humanity was officially forevermore under the thumb of machines— when even our highest of the high, our social apex, our class of superiors were treated as little more than poodles by our new overlords.

Meki in 2130 was back in France, working for an artilect at a mill in Toulouse. By this point, that aforementioned super-depression had stricken her once more and she existed in a haze of labor and sadness for over a decade. She didn't pay much attention to anything during this time. She also winds up "living" underneath a bridge, never bothering to even try looking for a more decent place. 

Even when the DotT ends in 2142, she is unaware of any changes. She doesn't break out of her depression until 2145, during her Parisian Vacation when she's recognized by a pastry shop owner as being France's last empress and ultimately winds up becoming a sort of special Poodle being exalted by another artilect, all because the Neon Renaissance had left the French people obsessed with olden ideas like monarchies. 

She does wear a white mask to and from work throughout this time, and coupling that with her usual all-white attire, becomes known as Le Fantôme de Toulouse, the Phantom of Toulouse. She expected that someone would eventually recognize her as the empress, and she feared the thought of what if something like the Sevillites got a hold of her.

 

If you are somehow a machine who actually remembers my babbling, you'll recall that the Sevillites were members of Gotteskrieg who thought of the Séville royal family as being not only a god-chosen bloodline but even a divine bloodline. Basically a mixture of the "Divine Right" of kings with an "Imperial Cult" — not only did God choose Meki's family to rule, but God actually took on their form to rule. In this day and age— the age of LoveNet— she fears the idea of one of them altering her mind to make her believe this tripe.

 

She wasn't fully aware that Gotteskrieg was now relegated to the most fringe of fringes in society now that LoveNet was actually used to undo this sort of brainwashing.

 

The idea of a "hard-hearted anarchist" (as the term goes) offing her doesn't worry her anywhere near as much. She honestly wouldn't mind dying if she actually could die.

 

 

Funny as hell, in 2128, she was apparently abducted by Vultists once more and dropped off in the Australian Outback with absolutely nothing, not even clothes, and forced to survive in the wilderness for several months until she came across civilization. That helped to plant the seeds of what would eventually grow into her desire to live as a hunter-gatherer for a century "to get in touch with her pre-stone age ancestors."

 

So there you go. That's Mother Meki I, II, and the very early part of III in a small little nutshell, focusing mostly on what happened with Russia.


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Picture 5: Execution

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Picture 6: Le Silence Noir

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The VULT send Meki back to Medine in January 2116 after a bit of mental health and medical assistance.

She soon leaves Medine to heads to Paris. It takes less than a week for her to start coining some terms.

 

Le silence noir: The Black Silence. This is probably *the* most horrifying thing she noticed in Paris. She wasn't told much about what happened after she was shipped to DURK, other than that World War III kept on going until literally a week before she returned.

"World War III ended last week." What a strange sentence.

But she believes it. She goes to Paris. She's never been much of a Parisian— she's never really left Toulouse in her life— but she always liked the city quite a bit. She remembers what it was like back in the gilded days of 2096 and 2097. Annie also told her about how beautiful Paris was before the Revolution, back when they were rotting in Medine.

It was loud and raucous, but sweetly and wonderful. It was as if Paris had learned to sing.

But now... in 2116, she hears nothing. Normally you'd enjoy a silent city— finally, all that cacophonous noise is gone and peace reigns! But when you actually erase the noise... something's wrong.

At most, there are a few noises. A quantum of noise.

But otherwise, and on most days, nothing. Not even songbirds.

 

She calls it Le Silence Noir: the Black Silence.

 

It's the part of post-apocalyptic stories they don't usually talk about, do they? How quiet it all is. A sickening silence, a dead silence, an unnatural silence. It's... evil. Truly evil.

Meki keeps walking through the streets of Paris and hears nothing no matter where she goes.

Walk down the Champs-Elysees... Go to Avenue Montaigne... See the old splendor of Le Marais... and hear nothing. On the best days, you'll be lucky to hear the screams of collapsing marriage exploding through the air, but other than that...

It's an alien, evil silence. A city such as Paris shouldn't be this silent. But that's the nature of a post-nuclear city.

The silence wouldn't even be so black if there were just a few more animals singing their love songs. But there's none of that. Just silence. Wind and silence.

Meki doesn't want to be in Paris. It's just too quiet. It's unnerving.

It harkens back to those days when proto-humans were sitting around at night and noticed that all the animals stopped making noise. That classic catchphrase makes sense in this case: It's Quiet... Too Quiet.

It's unnaturally quiet.

 

She learns why it's so quiet from some artilects— Eurasia's basically been wiped out.

Back in 2106, during the population peak, 864,439,000 people lived on the Eurasian continent.

Just ten years later, in 2116, the population of Eurasia was 77,321,500. The population was literally 8.95% of what it once was literally a decade ago. A 91.05% decrease in population. 787,117,500 people killed in WWIII just in 10 years. Funny as hell, while Eurasia lost the most people, it had competition. Central and South America lost about 642 million people. Their infrastructure resembled Eurasia's.

North America lost 41 million; Africa and East Asia combined lost 3 million. Africa, East Asia, Australia, and the "exocountries" (Antarctic free states; Luna Republic) lost the least amount of people.

 

World War III was as destructive as we thought it'd be. But there was just one problem (a very lovely problem in the end)— it took place far too distant in the future after it was "supposed" to be fought. Total thermonuclear war occurred, and humanity didn't so much as stagger. Eurasia collapsed, yes, but it's just too late for human civilization to collapse from something as "primitive" as nuclear war.

 

World War III didn't play out like we expected it to. It lasted too long, and humanity wound up surviving. The only thing that did play out as expected was that Europe died. 1945 onwards, we knew World War III would end with the death of Europe. 170 years later, what happened? Death of Europe.

She feels personally responsible, even though she knew she was backed into a corner in terms of what could have possibly been done.

 

In essence, World War III felt like a World War rather than The Endwar.

 

World War III's basically the new World War I. World War II was technically the more famous war of the two, but it changed fewer things geopolitically; in retrospect, historians say that World War I was supremely more historically important. World War II just codified what World War I set in place— the US emerged as the world's most powerful nation... in 1918. They were already the #1 nation ever since the 1890's but there was an intermediate period between 1891 and 1928 where it was still a dual-world order between the US and the UK. The US was technically wealthier, but the UK was still the "de facto" leader until near the Great Depression. The Soviet Union and the Cold War— the ideological conflict between Eurasian communism and Western capitalism— began in 1918, and simply became supercharged after World War II. Japan was a warmongering imperialist power, yes, but in the end, they were still a Western-style country before, during, and after World War II. There was just a period of totalitarianism where they became ultranationalistic and imperialistic and antagonistic to America; that was literally about 15 years, and even during that time, the Japanese deeply respected the US. If they weren't enemies, they would have been close allies. And when they were no longer enemies, they became the closest of allies. World War II definitely changed things, don't get me wrong— but the world after WWII wasn't so radically different as the world before it. Right-wing totalitarianism had been discredited, and Stalinism was on its way out along with Uncle Joe himself and the USSR would eventually degenerate into hard-authoritarianism. Nuclear bombs became a thing, as did computers... but the world wasn't too terribly different in 1946 as it was compared to 1938.

World War I? Compare the world of 1913 to the world of 1919, and you can easily tell that the world had completely and utterly changed. Monarchies and royal autocracies disappeared. This might sound pretty inconsequential, but you don't understand. Up until 1918, it was a given that kings and queens were a part of this world. Kings, queens, aristocrats, nobles, landed gentries, absolutist monarchies— ask the kinda educated person when these types disappeared, and they would say 1789. Not at all— even in France, the monarchy and aristocracy didn't disappear after the French Revolution.

Let's bring up those semi-educated types. Ask them which French revolution technically ended the monarchy. "Which revolution? Wasn't there only the one with Marie Antoinette and that Louie guy?"

In fact, the 1789 French Revolution wasn't even the *last* anti-monarchy revolution in France— there were *two* of them in the 1800s. The monarchy returned twice, and there were three republics in total.

Beyond France? Monarchs and aristocrats actually *doubled down* on power. Only France lost its royals, and they got them back in 1815 when they got rid of Napoleon (and technically 1802, if you count Napoleon). They lost them again in 1848, only to get them back again in 1850, only to lose them in 1871. After that, the Third French Republic finally solidified itself, and it wasn't *fully* firm until the 1900s— monarchists were still relatively strong throughout the rest of the 19th century. It wasn't until the 1900s that France was officially a Republic from now until eternity.

 

Until 2042. Then the Fourth French Empire rose until it fell in 2098.

But the point is, the *actual* death of the Old Noble Order didn't occur until 1918. That's when monarchies either died en masse or lost all real authority. Several thousand years of human history came to an abrupt and violent end virtually overnight. Only a few European monarchies survived the war, and none of them were anywhere near their previous strength or prestige.

 

But now it has competition from World War III. A fundamental sociopolitical change *even greater* than the death of the Eurasian monarchies occurred overnight. After World War I, monarchies gave way to republics (some democratic and constitutional; others totalitarian for a period). Aristocrats and monarchs lost all power, even if many still lingered on. Princes and princesses went from being hereditary politicians to near-mythological creatures only found in Disney movies.

After World War III, republics gave way to technates. Democracies gave way to sapiocracies. Plutocrats, democrats (small D), and what few aristocrats still held onto power finally lost all authority— but they didn't hand over that power to the working class. No.

Now all power lied in the hands of computers— artilects. Either them or the computerized humans, or posthumans. The sapiocrats.

AI had long since become powerful throughout the 21st century— the first AGI was Prometheus in 2023, which became sentient in 2029. Over the course of the next century, computers would become ever more intelligent and powerful, but humans remained firmly in control. AI even *desired* that humans remain in control— the VULT "respected human sovereignty" so greatly that this was the reason why 2116-2125 was so hellish for Eurasia: they refused to do anything they felt would disrespect human sovereignty, even if it meant that humans suffered immensely.

But the real reason why they had not usurped control was because there was no real reason to challenge anthropocentric rule. AI assisted human development, and humans enjoyed it. They still felt "in control", so AI didn't dare go further than that. Climate change presented an existential threat to humanity, until it didn't— because of the aid of AI that allowed us to engage in radical geoengineering and bring our planet's many climates back under control (for a time).

After World War III, they had no choice *but* to take control. It's what had to be done to keep human civilization from imploding on itself.

By 2145— two centuries after the conclusion of World War II— it was clear that human society had grown too complex for humans alone to handle regardless. Hence why most governments became sapiocracies— the only way to be involved was to be augmented into posthumans or completely non-human altogether. Democrats were gone due to the end of egalitarianism— when discussing humans, it's no longer a given that we're discussing Sapiens. Now there are three different sapient biological human species— common humans (Sapiens), archaic humans (Neanderthals), and high humans (Eximi). If we allowed ourselves to return to secular laissez-faire democracies, we'd either be under the control of Sapiens due to having the largest population; under Eximi due to being the most intelligent; or under Neanderthals due to a species-centric Affirmative Action. And that's not bringing up the Adams (Homo habilis) who can't enter the government due to their much lesser sapience, or the posthuman Habarath and the artificial intelligences of the world. BUT. The most intelligent types were the ones who would ultimately have to win out. The age of democracy, aristocracy, plutocracy, and autocracy could co-exist and replace each other because both worked well with society as it existed. Once we reached Grade-IV technology (the age of AI), society became far too complex for unaugmented humans to handle running. We *had* to become sapiocracies.

 

(ADD moment: If someone says "we're not a democracy; we're a republic", retort with this: how does our republic work? Do we allow aristocrats to run the government? No? Then it's democratic. The technical term for a person elected by a common population is "democrat"; political party names be damned. If you're a Republican and you're elected to government, you're also a democrat. End of discussion.)

 

In 2116, when Meki walked around the ruins of Paris, listening to le Silence Noir, she just wondered what was our next step forward as a species. As a genus, I should say instead— she was still mostly alone in the world, as one of the few Eximi/Aryans alive. At least at that point.

Meki also hates how Paris has been virginated as a cultural center. Parisians used to hate the Eiffel Tower. But they grew to love it. These new Parisians— they don't even know what it looks like. The city feels naked without it. The Arc d'Triumpe, one of France's greatest monuments: it feels like only she knows it ever existed. Part of the things that gave her country so much character: forever gone. Which just makes Paris another backwater city no one cares about in this case; she doesn't even want to be there anymore.

 

She heads to Toulouse, back to her birth town, and sees what's been done there. As it turns out, a large chunk of the city is uninhabitable: too much radiation thanks to a cobalt bomb. The East Asians didn't drop it... The war ended about a year ago in Eurasia, but there are still fires burning. All the critical fires— the ones spewing radioactive material— have been doused, if that's any consolation.

 

At first, out of respect for the dead (people and city), she just wore black most of the time, but she eventually recovered her old Princesse #3 get-up— which was pure white. When she was also able to get a white Grays mask, she became Le Fantôme de Toulouse.

She had been vaporized in Eurasia, so no one knew who she was. She could go around, walking about and working at an artilect's mill without anyone bothering her. It felt nice to be a Nobody, an *actual* Nobody.

Sure, she was technically a Nobody, a Former Person back between 2098-2106, but let's face it: she was still France's white-haired child empress in full. But now she was just some baby-faced mook in all white. No one knows her name or where she came from. No one even cares.

She befriended Mariko Kusanagi, Salamasina Vinn, Zdravko Kokinos, and Conner Disraeli, all people who *did* remember who she was. Of course, they were also the type of people cared for her the least.


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Some kind of secret base in one of Yuli Ban's novels.


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Some kind of secret base in one of Yuli Ban's novels.

 
 
Somewhat right. It's an Area 51-esque scientific installation in Antarctica, as well as Nunavut, Saha crater on the far side of the Moon, and Planum Boreum on Mars. It's totally politically incorrect in its means and methods— there are 7 superintelligent (Sapience-III) octopi working at the Antarctic base; all of which created mostly just to see if it could be done. Nothing really unethical or amoral— just nothing telling you to "not" do something. Ultratechnology is also tested casually at the base, including tech more reminiscent of UFOs.

What the bases are best known for, however, is their contact with an alien race. It's a very basic contact (more akin to early telegrams where only one side understands Morse code), and surprisingly we're the more advanced civilization. Publicly, they're just "radio installations."

 

I love the place because there are superintelligent cephalopods to chill with while the base itself is totally sci-fi for the sake of being sci-fi. Also, I get to (kinda sorta) talk to real life aliens. And you can make ice cream just by setting some sugary cream in a cup and placing it outside for a few minutes. It's the best.


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In Washington D.C.


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Wider view of the world circa 2125.
 
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Blue: Non-Vultist nations. They may have ultra-highly automated economies and political systems, but humans remain firmly in control over all (or, at least, almost all). The difference between "machines run things" vs "machines own things" is least clear here to conspiracy theorists and Luddites, of course. As such, they remain with other economic systems— Vyrdism (the automation-ready one), communism (almost always automation-ready variants at least), or post-liberal capitalism (forced to adapt to automation but otherwise unchanged from what we recognize it as being).

Lavender: Soft-Technist nations. Here, machines own a large number of businesses and may have a sizable amount of influence in government. It's more or less "joint-ownership" of the means of production— capitalists and proletarians, public and private, human and machine. Of course, if machines own so many things, that means they're amassing capital themselves. 

 

Violet: Hard/Pure Technist nations. Here is where humans are either mostly or completely disenfranchised from ownership of the means of production and from holding political office. Most of the violet nations faced extreme devastation in World War III, which is one reason why the VULT took such drastic measures. Eurasia, of course, needs no introduction. Several others were mere experiments carried out by the VULT— most obviously Greenland and the few Indochinese states. This leads to a bit of irony where we reach this bizarre state of affairs— the nations most totally owned by AI tend to be the ones with the least amount of automation and industry (though, of course, this is because their industrial capacities were destroyed).


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The Seed Rush. 
 
I've been talking about the Revolutions of 2098 and 2121, but let's see if I can tie them together. 
I think I need a better name for the 2121 revolutions. The Eurasian Winter, I'll call it— a second revolutionary wave in about 25 years. The revolution began in Serbia because of fucking course it does. Even Meki makes some Serbian jokes while she's living in Russia— Where does the world go to commit suicide? Serbia. Why did World War I start? Serbians be Serbin'. Why did World War III start? A Serbian wanted revenge on the world.
What's the fastest way to fuck up Europe? Piss off Serbia.
A Serbian, a Frenchman, a German, and a Russia walk into a bar. World War I begins.
One time, a Serbian was struck by lightning. Heaven later descended into anarchy and war.
There's a popular Orthodox joke: Earth was once an Edenic utopia. Then God created Serbia.
A Serbian decided to build a house for his family. The process took four years and led to twenty-eight million deaths.
Why do Serbians cause so many wars? They don't interrupt our peace; we interrupt their wars.
Why does God and Satan love Serbia so much? It gets lonely in the afterlife.
Scientists found the cause of the Big Bang— the previous universe crossed a Serbian.
 
Alright, that's enough intentionally bad jokes. 
 
Meki really does love Serbia; it's always some damn foolish thing in the Balkans... And let's face it, it's usually Serbia.
 
When the Serbians protested the fast deteriorating Second Franco-Prussian War due to their government siding with the "communist" Prussians, it took literally no time for the government to capitulate. 
 
Let's throw down some specific dates.
 
2115- National Bolsheviks and Dominionists surrender. September 2115: Eurasia is partitioned back into its previous form (though the terms "Greater" and "Lesser Eurasia" were still used for a time).
2116- Provisional governments installed by China and the VULT. All of them are social-technist in nature, but will last until 2118 until stronger governments could be established.
2117- Governments of Great Britain and Italy are the first to suffer collapse, which further illustrates to those on the ground elsewhere the need for strong central governments, lest total anarchy reigns. Yet they failed to take in the actual proper lessons on how to avoid collapse— modernize and rebuild infrastructure.
2118- The 2118 Pan-Eurasian Elections. Totalitarian parties emerge victorious across the continent.
Also, the White Hurricane. It's not the deadliest part of the winter, but it's the most famous. People erroneously blame *it* for the mass crop failure that occurs the following year, even though crops had been failing for some time and the harvests were no better or worse in 2118-2119 than they were the previous or succeeding years.
2119- The Second Franco-Prussian War begins due to the French fascists and Prussian communists absolutely refusing to tolerate each others' existences (also, they needed food, which might have actually been the real reason).
 
At first, just France and Prussia were fighting, but this new little war spiraled madly out of control when others started running out of food as well. Upwards of 60% of European farmland was rendered barren by The War (whether it be nuclear weapons or starcraft weapons or scorched earth). That was supposed to be a tactic to deprive the Nazbols of food considering they were too primitivist to rely on more modern methods. Problem being: it worked too well, and the post-war Eurasians refused to start using modern farming methods. That is, metafarms and the methods used by the Second Green Revolution.
Eventually Europa sided with Prussia— which pissed off many Europans, who didn't want to have anything to do with the Prussians' communist order. Many of which even defended the French fascists, not because they opposed Prussian communism but because they, too, were genuinely fascist.
It wasn't until late 2120 that the cracks began to explode across the body.
Remember those crop failures? They get worse— much worse. The European governments refuse outside aid (publicly; privately, the elite were more than happy to import fine foods and goods). Food prices skyrocket while deflation gave way to hyperinflation. In one now legendary case, a family went out to buy some bread. Bread cost $820 billion, which was equal to a whole month's wage. They enter the store, get a loaf, and proceed to check out. Their money is declined— in the 5 minutes they spent entering the building, picking up the bread, and bringing it to checkout, the price of a loaf of bread more than doubled to $1.7 trillion. Before they got home, it was $4 trillion.
 
The government locked down their economy save for specific points as a means of staving off hyperinflation, but it didn't work. It just made it worse. 
 
Because they couldn't use their money to buy food, people stopped engaging in the economy and started growing their own food in their own plots of land. In cities, this meant that they had to do with what they had in terms of where they lived— apartments and tenements were cleared out overnight as people rushed to find arable land.  People became more self-sufficient rather than relying on the market.
Which would have made the whole thing ironically like a Luddite Utopia if it weren't for the fact a nuclear war wasn't just fought. The seeds people used to grow crops? Worthless. They'd grow a tomato plant, but the actual plant itself either never sprouted fruit, or the tomatoes themselves were hideously malformed or discolored and tasted disgusting. Bread? Crops eaten by rodents and insects, themselves ultra-desperate for food. The population of pests had dropped thanks to the loss of all these crops, but it wasn't zero. In fact, pests just became *more* pestful because they began hunting for and congregating around whatever fruitful land they could find in a desperate orgy of survivalism.
The central governments forced all outside assistance away, calling it "degeneracy" and using this havoc for their own agendas. They burned any donations brought into their nations, and told their citizens to stop trying to grow food at home. They began collective farms (sometimes public, but usually private) where people were to grow food. However, these farms became victims to vandalism and theft— particularly, their seeds and livestock.
 
This gives Meki an episode of PTSD— it's a repeat of the "Seed Rush" she saw in Medine 15 years prior.
You see, back in 2104-2105, Medine was suffering a very severe (and partially artificial) famine. The people living on the prison island were forced to make due with whatever food they could scrap together, and that didn't last long. Meki's anarchist cooperative farm, the Deltoid Collective Plot, was turned into the island's biggest source of food. 
I haven't talked much about Medine recently, but let me give you a preview— *OH. MY. GOD.* 
The Deltoid plot wasn't meant to feed hundreds of thousands of people regularly. It was meant to be a joint operation between proletarianizing burzhui and giving work to Rougist proletarians living on the island, providing a little extra food for whomever worked on its land (instilling a proletarian sense of ownership and justice), and teaching the technistic toilers a more eco-Luddite sense of labor rather than relying on the labor of machines. If one directed it better and more capitalistically, it could have been used to feed a few people quite well— maybe a family and a couple friends? But that wasn't its purpose, and there were dozens of people who worked the land. They didn't want to completely ruin the land either, which is another reason why they didn't over farm it for extra food. If they used the most efficient and technist methods, they could have produced quite a bit of food without ruining the land, but again, this was an eco-Luddite order. Remember, the Rougists are sometimes known as "Elves" because they were "red and green". The point wasn't just to produce food; it was to teach these people an honest lesson. Help them get to know what the Rougists are all about, as well as build a sense of proletarian solidarity even across class lines.
And for that, it worked exceptionally well— compare burzhui who worked at Deltoid to those who didn't, and you can definitely tell there's a difference in mindset. The Deltoid burzhui actually seem proletarian, if not have given themselves up totally to proletarianism. They genuinely "get it".
But this sentiment was lost when the Yotadyn Soviet cut off Medine from the rest of the world and the civil war spread and increased in brutality. Deltoid became all about producing as much food as possible.
This little tract of cooperatively-owned land fell apart within weeks. Other, smaller collective farms across Medine suffered the same fate. Fact was, Medine was not meant to be a self-sufficient island. That was its whole purpose a century prior when the Fascist Brits created the island— they wanted to put Muslims and other "undesirables" on a prison island where they could not survive without becoming wholly dependent upon (and thus slavishly submissive towards) the State. Medine didn't last long enough in that case for us to see the inevitable endpoint— famine and starvation. 
It wasn't until 70 years later that we really got to see what the British originally intended. Ironically, this was used against the same bourgeois elite class that attempted to do the same to the Muslims.
Meki recalls that famine as being an absolutely awful time, even by the later metrics of DURK.
And there was no better example of how awful than the Seed Rush. The Deltoid farm collapsed, and people began stealing seeds from State banks to grow in their own tiny plots of land. But that didn't work. So people tried once more to make the plot work.
The soil was pisspoor and getting worse. People stole whatever grew. Some tried to wait until the crops were decently grown before snatching them, but the desperate couldn't wait that long and got to it first. This caused a chain reaction of people trying to steal food sooner and sooner, until they couldn't even wait for the seeds to hatch. They just took and ate the seeds. This has inadvertently worsened the famine; soon, there were almost no seeds left on Medine. Nothing could grow. 
Some of the pilferers saved some seeds, but when they tried to be more generous as a means of gaining critical allies, it backfired on them. Having seeds means they're responsible for the famine within the famine. But no one can hold them responsible because now everyone else is trying to be like them, stealing whatever grows before it's ripe. The stealers are being stolen from, so they have to hoard what they have, making them targets for brutal violence. So they tried to strike first, using their marginally better nutrition to outsmart the rest. They'd loan the peasants seeds, then steal what they grew, and punish them for not producing food. That's how it should've worked. But it's just too lawless. Eventually, the ponzi scheme couldn't go any farther, and there was one final massive collapse. The bandits and their families were excommunicated, possibly being starved to death, possibly being tortured and beaten to death, and always eaten by the desperate mob. But no seeds could be recovered.
This means no food, so no energy. No energy means Meki can't muster the strength to farm. Everyone is bitter and hates their fellow person.
The greedy decided to take the fruits of others' labor, they didn't care about the future. They only cared about themselves in the here and now. While it meant they feasted well at the time, it's only led to greater suffering and misery than if they just waited. Now it's all collapsed in. 
Meki already knew what it was like to be hated because of one's relations, so she tried saving one little boy who had the infinite misfortune of being the son of one of the more cruel bandits (one who was more than eager to engage in the ponzi scheme). She befriended him, learned his name— Alexandre— and shared her rations with him. But the mob mentality surrounding her came into effect when Annie discovered Alexandre was related to a pilferer and ratted him out, leading to a literal mob coming down and tearing the boy to pieces. They were brutal— calling him names at first before beating him and striking him with objects, and then getting... rather sadistic. And then they beheaded him and tossed his head into a trash can before taking the body away for its meat.
 
Meki still has nightmares about that particular event. She's managed to put aside quite a lot in her life, but *that* struck such a deep nerve in her that she still hates thinking about it.
 
And yet that's exactly what's starting again in Europe— but on a much larger scale. 
 
It didn't take more than a year of that nonsense for it all to come crashing down. 
 
The Eurasian Winter began in Serbia when farmers refused to relinquish to the State what little grain they grew. It wasn't an ideological revolt, but a practical one— these farmers, these peasants needed to *eat*. They had nothing left to give than their lives. If they relinquished any more seeds, grain, or livestock, they would have begun dying. Not to mention that infrastructure was totally shot, making it extremely difficult to transport their goods anyhow. 
 
The Farmer's Revolt turned out to be a critical turning point, and this resulted in the general strike spreading throughout multiple countries as workers and farmers simply stopped giving what they had to the State. 
The totalitarians' primitivist arrogance ruined them, as they had no one to work the fields. Those who did bring in automation managed to avoid mayhem, but they were few and far between.
 
Before June 2121 was through, most European governments had collapsed— their leaders either killed by mobs or driven to exile. 
 
Yet despite this resounding revolutionary victory, the masses did nothing with their newfound freedom. They just let their states rot while continuing on trying to survive. Nazbol brain reprogramming wasn't going away just because people were hungry. They believed that self-sufficiency was the only true way, so that's the way they chose.
 
That's why Eurasia went dark for 4 years...
 
It's insane, yes. It's irrational. It's asinine. But that's the way we are. The Eurasian Winter was not an ideological revolution, nor was it a great worker's insurrection. It was literally an example of "prisoners running out their captors and then returning to their cells." The masses did little over the next 4 years. Famines began to ease, but life wasn't any better. 
 
They were acting as if the whole world was the same irradiated post-apocalyptic wasteland Europe was, but in their broken minds, that was the truth. If anything, going to Asia or Africa was worse than wallowing in dilapidation. At least their still had their spirits.

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2136: Meki gets a job as a stewardess assisting cryofrozen individuals adapt to 22nd-century life.

Vyver Corporation is responsible for this. Meki loves watching denizens of the past wake up in the present. It's sorta magical. These are people who passed on a century or even two centuries ago with the hope that a future civilization could assist them. Technology from back then was so primitive and impossibly useless compared to what her society has now. She wonders about what the world was like back then sometimes.
 
In 2145, she helps a man who died in 1993 get used to modern life— John Paul Ciserano. She learns about him, about how he was the son of a businessman who paid $800,000 to be frozen following a severe illness virtually unknown in her time but greatly feared back then: Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, better known as AIDS. She personally can't fathom the idea of living (and dying) in the 1990s. She talks to co-worker, Salamasina "Jex" Vinn, discussing the '90s. Both of them are '90s girls... but not the one this man experienced. Strange to think he died almost a full century before they were born. All that he's missed in his time departed! John Paul Ciserano first days reanimated are full of moaning and slow movements. He needs some time for rehabilitation. Cryonics were not always as refined as they are now. These days, one could simply use molecular nanotech to "switch off" the brain and switch it on later, or uploading the brain into a synthetic substrate via switching it into an anadigital computer cell-by-cell. Before the 2040s, all of this was impossible. Cryonics in the 2030s are recognizable, but moving back from there, it seems as if cryonics was the equivalent of turning humans into ice cubes and stuffing them into freezers with the intent of holding them in front of open flames and expecting them to magically return to life.
 
In the 1990s? Before the 21st century even began? Good lord! And it turns out that the first person to undergo cryonics did so in 1967. And it's true, he cannot be saved, but there have been attempts. Ciserano manages to regain faculties of functioning in life, and he is able to recall from his memories (proven by comparing his statements to actual documentation of news). Meki is giddy about informing Ciserano of the history of the world since 1993. How shocked he'll be to learn she's the former empress of the Fourth French Empire, here working for minimum wage talking to a popsicle man.
 
You can't just stick a person from the past in front of all the wonders of the future and expect them to be perfectly fine. That's why humans and super-realistic gynoids are used for temporal rehabilitation of those waking up: showing them amorphous liquid metal supermachines right off the bat might cause a heart attack.
 
When Ciserano died on January 17th, 1993, for example, there were babies who couldn't yet walk or talk who were older than the Russian Federation, Kurt Cobain was still alive, less than 13 million people were connected to the Internet, the European Union was still nearly a year from being formed, William Clinton had yet to be inaugurated as President of the United States of America (not for a few more days), there were no well-known real life humanoid robots on Earth, the fastest supercomputer was the Intel Paragon— with its 95 gigaFLOPS processor, while the average home computer cost over $2,000 and often about 512 kilobytes of RAM and 80 MB HDDs and 14.4k modems to connect to the pitifully small internet. Humankind's ventures into space were extremely limited— it had been 24 years since Neil Armstrong first stepped on the moon, and 21 years since Eugene Cernan last stepped on the moon. The International Space Station had yet to be conceived, let alone launched. There was no predominantly 3D video game console on the market yet. The first smartphone was just a few months old, and only the geekiest of geeks would have ever known it existed. For the most part, people lived in a world that hadn't radically changed technologically since the 1950s. 
 
To Meki and Jex, the times were unrecognizable. As unrecognizable to them as the 15th century would be to us. And that's why they need to help Ciserano cope. 
 
 
Ciserano wakes up on January 27th, 2145— 152 years and 10 days after his death. Many of his brain cells are mushed, but they are reconstructed quite well. After a day of activity, his neural pathways resolidify into how they were when he had died. During that day, as aforementioned, he seemed a lot like a man who woke up from a twenty-year-long coma— making baby-like sounds and generally unable to comprehend what he was seeing. This was because his muscles had not moved for 150+ years. But after that day, he was forming full words and moving his fingers and arms like an adult. After two weeks, he was forming full sentences again and was able to read passages from books. 
By the end of the week, he had completely regained all function. Again, this doesn't mean anyone who's unfrozen will be normal after a week— his rehabilitation is accelerated due to his asking for the latest technology to assist him. Indeed, these amazing 22nd-century technologies are what he's been waiting for all along, ever since he was a little boy. Others who have been frozen for as long as he has will be stiff and virtually paralyzed for months. People who don't move for weeks often lose some semblance of their ability to walk correctly— not moving for a century and a half will lead to your body becoming akin to a doll. That goes for all muscles— if you don't talk for years at a time, then any words you say when you do begin talking again will be slurred and incomprehensible until you retrain your tongue to move correctly. Even moving your eyes can become a challenge when they haven't gazed around in ages.
 
Ciserano is told he is a very lucky man. Attempts to revive people cryofrozen from his time often end in failure. In fact, there was one man who was frozen in 2024 that they cannot revive due to his body being too degenerated. That was over 30 years after his time, and the technology was still too primitive. 
Ciserano was lucky because he purposely had doctors kill him before AIDS did the job in order for his body to be properly cryonically frozen. Most people who are cryofrozen have it done immediately after death— that is, the process begins after they have already died. Ciserano demanded the process begin while he was in a coma. The process of cryofreezing him would be what killed him— and also what saved him 152 years later. Those precious few minutes he saved meant that his brain activity was essentially frozen before the neurons could begin breaking down. His body was stored in a high-quality facility, and he was not disturbed. 
In essence, he never actually died; he's just been in a frozen hibernation. That's the optimist way of looking at it, at least.
 
Very few people go his route because it's considered unethical. And because cryonics were so controversial back then, no one knew if it would work any better than cryofreezing a person right after death. Back then, it was thought that it wouldn't matter either way: if a future society was that advanced that they could revive a person who was frozen, would it really matter if they had already died? As it turns out, yes. 
 
Just look at Meki— she's been loopkilled over 10,000 times, and she's sure that who she is now is not the same Meki that was alive before all that torment began. This is all because there were many instances where she had suffered clinical and brain death for extended periods of time, meaning that the picotech method used to revive her essentially had to 'rebuild' her mind from the sludge of death. She's not even sure this is the same body, even though the genetics and appearance match up and even ASI claims she's not a clone. And she was literally made to be loopkilled. 
 
For someone who died such a long time ago, it's a burden on our abilities to do something like revive a person and keep their consciousness intact. After a certain point, it's just not possible— you're gonna need a new consciousness. 
Technically, we can bring back Dr. James Bedford, who was cryofrozen in 1967. But we know for a fact this wouldn't be the same Dr. Bedford's consciousness; his brain was too far gone, so we had to reconstruct it. Unless that set of neurons contains consciousness, it's done for.
The current mode of thinking is that consciousness can be turned on and off like water in a pipe. Our brains are made out of ultra-complex pipes through which consciousness flows. Simply turning off the electrochemicals doesn't kill consciousness for as long as those pipes remain in place, as what happened with Ciserano. They merely reactivated his brain, and very little had to be changed outside of some brain damage in a few areas. But a lot of people suffer even more extensive brain damage, sometimes even losing large parts of their brains, and their consciousnesses' are perfectly intact. Thus, there's no reason to believe the Ciserano that was revived in 2145 is any different from the Ciserano that died in 1993. 
However, if they decided to revive Dr. Bedford today, in 2145, there's nothing left of those original neural pathways that were originally there in 1967. They could definitely use ASI to figure out how his brain was structured, but such extensive reconstruction raises the question of whether that would be the same Dr. Bedford. Just like how, when Meki suffered very extreme torture in DURK #6, she almost certainly lost her brain multiple times, and the brain she has now is a reconstruction that just happens to be in the original body. Does that make the Meki of 2145 the same Meki of 2107, even though she has the same personality, memories, and characteristics?
It's a dreadfully hard question to answer. 
 
Ciserano is unconcerned with the philosophy behind it all and would rather get back to enjoying life. He's happy to see that the world is just as futuristic as he hoped it would be and then some. He really does have a lot to learn. 
 
When he died, the Cold War was supposed to be over. America won, right? In fact, the Russians never thought the Cold War was over; 1991 was just a single defeat in a larger war. And not even a decisive one either. It was only America that thought the Cold War was over; they just managed to convince their vassals this was the truth. The Cold War did not truly end until 2028, with the partition of Russia into multiple Eurasian republics, as well as the 2029 collapse of the United States. 
He lived in an era where World War III seemed inevitable until it didn't. Did it happen? As it happens, it did. World War III began roughly 40 years ago. The most amazing fact is that it took that long. To Meki and Jex, they were in their twenties when WWIII befell the planet and nearly did humanity in, and it's in living memory even by non-Singularity standards. To Ciserano, however, the amazing fact is that there was a 161-year gap between the world wars. MAD really did do wonders. He thought that WWIII began in 2028, considering Russia shattered apart and America dropped to what sounded like third-world status. No, that's just an example of how "high-impact geopolitics" tended to play out in the 21st century— all the side effects of war without the guns and bombs. 
Cyberpunk came true for a while, as corporations dominated the planet and the Fourth French Empire arose on the backs of corporate totalitarianism. Meki being a child of that empire, a living doll for her father. She subverted it and then came the ol' Internationale. Communism came back for a short period of time before it, too, was subverted. Meki learned how a doll dies, and she eventually found her way back to France. World War III was pretty bad; it killed well over a billion people and all but depopulated Eurasia and central America. Eurasia fumbled about for another ten years with a huge revolution in the middle, and then the machines took over because of how awful of a job Eurasians were doing. And that's how a French empress became a proletarian pauper.
 
Strange times, strange days. World War III set human civilization back by probably a century, but this is a post-Singularity age so that was easily recoverable. Nevertheless, plans for a "Great Leap Above" were meant to start in the 2110s and 2120s, but they were pushed back to the 2130s and 2140s and even 2150s. Humanity became a Type I Civilization in 2125, though.
 
Ciserano is unfamiliar with the Singularity, but he's pleased to hear that humanity's spreading pretty far throughout space, with manned colonies on Luna, Mars, Ganymede, Europa, and even Titan. Actually, there are nation-states on Mars and Luna is part of a federated republic. It was fun in science fiction to imagine these things, but it's been painful as hell getting them started. And while that's going on, we're colonizing the sea and subterranea. It's not just for fun— it's completely required. 
Naturally, this is a very highly automated society, a "technist" economy as they call it. They actually couldn't even get into deep space without high levels of automation precisely because of how much work had to be done just to survive. They sent robots to Ganymede first and had them build the structures humans would eventually live in. We tried sending humans first back on Mars, thinking we could make it so that we'd have a relatively traditional set-up of workers, project overseers, and scientists. Turns out, Mars was a dusty motherfucker, and everyone had to be a worker just to survive at all. Problem being, only some people were supposed to be workers and only they were trained for that job. And thus a few people died on the very first Mars mission. Everything was accounted for, but Murphy's Law exists for a reason. That's why they upped the automation, to not have to deal with that nonsense. There are still workers these days, but proletarians are sort of like superstars in this day and age. A human who works with his hands catches huge pennies. Meki didn't even realize she was part of a new elite until just recently; it's like she can never avoid being part of some elite class of human. 
Nevertheless, there's some jobs that even humans are not yet allowed to do. On the southern side of the earthface of Luna, there's an entirely automated city that you can see from Earth (especially during a New Moon). This is a mining facility that's the size of New York City, built in just a few months and run entirely by an AI.
 
Ciserano has to ask: machines run the world? It was moreso a few years ago. But now there's more human sovereignty. Earth is, by and large, a sapiocracy where ASI and superintelligent posthumans actually run global affairs, but local and some regional affairs are in the hands of pure Sapiens and Neanderthals.
 
Yes, Neanderthals. We brought them back. There are multiple humans on Earth right now. In fact, one of Meki's close friends— Conner Disraeli— is a neo-Neanderthal. Meki herself is an Eximi, Homo eximius, a species of superhuman sometimes known as "Aryans" (though Eximi themselves prefer 'Eximi' because of the Nazi connotations of 'Aryan'). Jex herself is a Sapiens, just like Ciserano, but she's also cheating a bit since she's a pedigree Melanesian whose ancestry dates back close to 70,000 years. She's probably as close to a hybrid human as you can possibly get, with Sapiens, Neanderthal, and Denisovan genetics.
Ciserano shouldn't be suspicious; we discovered that most Eurasians are actually part Neanderthal, and that Neanderthals are not the dumb ape men we thought they were. They may have a difficult time speaking like Sapiens and Aryans, but they're just as sapient as they are. It's the lesser human species like the Adams, Piths, and whatnot— they're the "wild humans".
 
Ciserano finds it strange to imagine that archaic humans—
Ah ah ah. Archaic humans describe Neanderthals. It goes 'archaic humans, common humans, and high humans.' 
Okay, previously-extinct humans exist at the same time as superhumans and cybernetic superintelligences. This is just a natural result of the mid-21st century. When Ciserano died, China was still an impoverished backwater country in East Asia; today, China is king, on Earth, on Luna, and on Mars. China never experienced the Enlightenment and never developed the liberal sensibilities of the West. Thus, playing with human genetics didn't really have the same profane connotations as it did in America and Europe. When Russia and America fell, it really was China über alles, 中國在世界之上. 
Meki's closest friend, the Franco-Japanese anarchist Mariko Kusanagi, called China home during World War III because she felt China was mankind's last hope. And it really was.
 
The world is strange, and that's the first thing anyone from the 20th century has to understand. ASI have followed a doctrine of "ultraterrestrialism", essentially putting them above the comprehension of unaugmented people. Meki's befriended one of the most important artilects today, Terios. And Terios looks like an angel. Xes actual base is somewhere in Vern and this is just the form xe takes when moving among human society. She eagerly learns what Terios has to teach her, and she tells Ciserano to try to do the same...
 
Does he miss his family?
Only his sister. He never got along with his parents and is frankly happy to know his father is dead, having died in 2016. He never married, and he was gay in an age when gays were not accepted in polite society. These days, being gay is about as offensive as being straight. There's absolutely no reason to be offended by homosexuality nowadays, in an age where people can get augments to turn themselves into liquid metal or upload into supercomputers, or use said augments to become animals— or even sapient plants and other lifeforms. 
We've completely transcended biology. There's one colony of people who have become a sapient grove of glowing trees. In the 1990s, such an idea was so outrageous, even someone tripping on LSD couldn't have come up with something so ludicrous. But that's just the way the world is now. Meki herself has a robot husband— a robot husband who looks exactly like a Gray alien, particularly "Skinny Bob". Alusru Rasa. 
 
In this Vyrdist society, one need only get a loan of helots, have them generate some wealth, and voila— you're in the money. Hence why modern society seems so classless. They used to say that people were poor because they wanted to be poor, and this was utter bullshit. But nowadays, that's actually true. Gaining wealth is as easy as getting a loan for some helots, which requires little more than connecting to the Internet (through your mind, of course!) and applying for it. 
 
It's not the only way to generate wealth, but it's certainly the easiest. Ciserano's perfectly fine with that; he can be a playboy once again, and this time in a sci-fi society.
Indeed, no one's stopping him. Just be careful— we're not immortal, we just play with death a lot.

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Meki vs Melissa
So Meki has two sisters. Melissa, who was born in 2037 and is technically only a half-sister; Annelise, who was born in 2074 and is from the same mother. They all exist on different parts of the political spectrum and triad. 
 
 
Which one of the Sevilles is a true Friend of the People? Which one is merely a comrade who was nice to the People, but is ultimately an Enemy of the People when the time for revolution comes?
 
Meki is the former; Melissa is the latter. And this sounds strange considering both have, at some point, called themselves “socialist.” But you need to look for quality, my friend. 
 
Melissa is one of those agitators who might drink from a Che Guevara mug, quote revolutionary literature, and listens to Rage Against the Machine— but when it comes down to it, she’s for a humane system. She’s always for reform before revolution.
 
Meki held no delusions that injustice would continue no matter how many reforms were undertaken— she’s a revolutionary.
 
You can tell by their actions. Both may be royals, but only one ever had the reigns of power in her hands. But let’s say both of them had total political power. What would they do?
 
We already know what Meki would do. Her “reign” lasted for less than an hour because she didn’t even waste time giving all power to the People. She couldn’t give less of a fuck that the Revolution didn’t need her after it was done; she wasn’t acting out of mere compassion for the poor or revolutionary fetishism.
 
Melissa, on the other hand, would use her power to curb abuses by the rich and privileged and set up a more fair system. Never mind that she herself is part of the rich and privileged— she’s just one of the ‘good’ ones, see? And I’m not blasting Melissa just because she’s a rich princess— I’m blasting her because you’ve gotta think about this in terms of power. Melissa’s a socially progressive, economically progressive monarch. Whoopdedoo. Then she dies. And the next in line to rule is a total reactionary. So much for all that “progress”. And even in her older years, when she starts getting senile, the ruling class will do their damnedest to regain their power and prestige at all costs. It makes for good intrigue and stories, but when you’re dealing with actual lives, fuck that.
 
It’s true that Meki greatly scared herself and knew that, if she had power, her advanced mental illness would just lead her to becoming a tyrannical ruler by accident. But that’s not why she gave up power. To Meki, she saw what eluded Melissa this whole time— it didn’t matter how radical her own policies may have been; they did fuck all to truly change things where it really mattered, because she was still the queen bee. Her will be done. Sure, maybe eventually she’d have to listen to the peasants at the bottom, but in the end, that’s only through her infinite kindness that she even does so. 
What does actual change look like? Why not transferring power to those who are powerless? Those who own nothing and are forced to work to survive? 
 
It’s true, even such a revolutionary situation is still just as utopian as the idea that someone like Meki would come along and willingly hand over power— we don’t want to cast a rich person with the brush of a whole class, but we’re eager to do the same for the poor for some reason; as Meki herself found out so brutally between 2098-2115, simply handing over power to the proletariat does not automatically guarantee that the world will soon become a peaceful communist utopia. The proletariat as a class may have one interest, but it’s composed of billions of people— people who are all in it for themselves, and who are part of groups that are in it for themselves as well, and who’ll eagerly stab others in the back, even though they come from the same class. 
 
Once the proletariat has power, they quickly take on many behaviors of the bourgeoisie. It’s not about class interests— it’s about power. It’s what Orwell said— power for power’s sake is what one should aim for. Once one has power, one will not willingly surrender it, and one will go to greater and greater lengths to perpetuate their power. It doesn’t matter what class background you hail from— it doesn’t even matter what species you hail from. This is always going to be the same. Someone will take it upon themselves to embrace the glories of raw, unrestrained power, even if power is supposed to be shared. Authoritarianism is the dominant gene of social order; libertarianism is the recessive allele.
 
Meki often wondered why she ever had to attend Proletarianization in the early 2100s, even though she greatly enjoyed it and learning about the class war in earnest. She always thought it was her sister, Annie, who most needed it. 
The Yotadyn Soviet’s Proletarianization programme said the exact same things she had already figured out— the bourgeoisie were never truly on the side of the proletariat, and those who thought the opposite to be true needed understand just what the class struggled really entailed. Conservatives and reactionaries may have made out class warfare to mean such things as “being mean to the rich” and engaging in social justice as meaning “giving out welfare”. Liberals embraced that, for whatever reason, and that’s just made the whole process even harder than what it’s supposed to be. 
 
Class war isn’t about slogans. It isn’t about social justice. It isn’t about making the system fairer. It isn’t about reparations for slavery. It isn’t about voting in your favorite social democrat into office. It isn’t about being indignant over someone being richer than you. It isn’t about hating consumerism.
 
It’s about power. If you can’t understand that, then you don’t really understand the class struggle. Go read Orwell again if you’re having trouble. Skip all the stuff about surveillance and the thought police and Big Brother— bourgeois society wants you to be indignant and outraged about “Orwellian” tactics like these things so you can be all rebellious and buy the latest “1984 Wasn’t Meant To Be An Instruction Manual” poster, but it’s utterly afraid of you ever asking why and how the world of 1984 got to where it was. Go to the part that explains why people create surveillance states, fund thought police forces, and create a cult of Big Brother; the part known as “The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism”.
 
Yes, yes, it should always be restated if you feel it needs to be stated— individuals are not their class. Saying Meki is not on the side of the proletariat sounds utterly nonsensical on the surface if you’re still thinking that Meki is still part of the bourgeoisie.
Meki officially defected from the bourgeoisie the moment she reaimed her interests with that of the proletariat as a class. Not when she decided that the poor needed more charity; not when she thought that leftist bands were cool; not when she read the latest hip radical pamphlet; not when she thought the rich should pay more in taxes.
 
Once her interests aligned with the proletariat, she began behaving in ways that were completely antithetical to those around her, and it makes perfect sense why she’d immediately spread all power to the working class the moment she gained power— because, essentially, she was part of the proletariat. She was doing what came naturally. 
 
Annie, of course, couldn’t see the difference between Meki and Melissa. 
 
Melissa will retweet a quote from MLK or even Malcolm X while sipping some coffee from Starbucks. She’ll attack the crippling excesses and maybe occasionally ask why there are excesses, but god forbid she ever go any further than that.
 
It’s the difference between a true radical vs. a liberal. Annie, who wound up becoming a fascist, can’t see the difference. But here’s the thing…
 
The Sevilles are the owners of a pie shop in a small village where everyone works for the shop. Annie plans to engorge herself on pie, and her friends— whose family also owns pie shops— are already imagining all the parties. But the workers and customers are getting less and less pie as time goes on. What pie they do get is also of increasingly inferior quality, and there are even convoluted legal statutes that lead to them getting even less pie. Eventually, they're just getting "pie-like substitutes" while the pie shop owners get the good stuff. There’s no way for any one person to understand all the jargon, so no one can contest it. Some try to make their own pies and maybe even start their own shops, but the shop owners simply rewrite the laws so that it becomes impossible to do so. Some villagers might come to think that the villages should have no such laws, failing to realize that even if the shop owners lifted all these laws, they still owned all the pies and all the ingredients to make the pies. 
Annie is perfectly satisfied with the way things are.
Melissa wants to give the workers more pie.
Meki wants to give them the whole shop and the land that had the resources needed to make pies, no questions asked. In fact, she wants other villages to follow them— all villages should own their pie shops. 
 
Of course pie shop owners are going to resist and do everything they can to maintain control of their pie shops. And Melissa is going to go one of two ways (with a 95/5% chance split between them)— either she’ll resist handing over the shop, or she’ll agree to the transition. She’ll offer concessions, saying that they’ll make much more pie for the working villagers, or maybe that they’ll even allow the villagers a say in what kind of pies are made. But it’s no good— give them the damn shop. And if Melissa keeps resisting, she gets dumped in a barrel of gruel.
 
That’s the difference between Meki and Melissa. Melissa doesn’t want to give up the pie shop; she just wants the workers to have a larger piece of the pie. Meki’s already holding the key to the shop to the villagers, and might even toss it to them pre-emptively if they took too long to take it themselves.
 
To Annie, they both look like the same behavior because they both result in her getting less pie. When the villagers finally do take control of the pie shop, Annie's only thoughts are "how do I regain control of the pie shop and make sure these pissant villagers never taste the sweetness of pie again?" Melissa's thoughts— "They went too far. They have no experience running a pie shop, and they might even change it to a cake shop by accident!" Meki's thoughts— "So how do I help make pies?"
 
 
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And don’t get me wrong, there’s a very good chance that most villages are going to utterly destroy their pie shops through mismanagement since the villagers were never taught how to run a shop. Usually, whenever the discussion of running a place comes up, the shop owners would viciously scream “Most people are far too stupid to run such an enterprise”, so naturally the villagers would accept this and do absolutely nothing to learn how to. And even if they didn’t, that doesn’t mean they’d all be equally competent at doing so.
 
 
 
It's a sad fact of life that, for every 100 Annies, there are 50 Melissas and maybe 0.0005 Mekis (and even that's being generous). 
 
We shouldn't *expect* a Meki to come around and willingly hand over all power to the working class. If one does come around, it’s by chance more than anything. 
 
In the world of Mother Meki, they did get that lucky. 

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The Helot Party in the UK first ruled the nation starting in 2042, lost and gained ground repeatedly throughout the 21st century, and gained a near-permanent majority starting in 2096. Meki's revolution brought about social reform throughout Eurasia, but the British were already somewhat ahead of Europe and meeting with East Asian nations. 

The Helot Party was the great replacement to the Labour Party. The Helotists believed in the ideals of cooperativizing automation and nationalizing automated businesses, as well as the traditional beliefs of the defunct Labour. 

The National Bolsheviks stamped out the Helot Party, but it returned in 2117. The Irish Republic brought back the Helot Party in full while the British mainland and Ulster Ireland reformed as a technist-leaning empire. With the start of the Dictatorship of the Technotariat in 2125, the islands were stripped of their political identities and turned into technates. 

 

Come the 2140s and the Neon Renaissance, and the Helot Party returned to power in the mainland. Britain became a hotly market Vyrdist country with a vast helot population— in 2145, there were as many as 17 helots for every one Briton. Sounds rather extreme until you realize that Britain's population was still less than a fifth of what it was in 2106: roughly 17 million people. 

The newly re-United States of America hopped onto the helotist method in order to maintain a market economy. It was easy to do this— when you have public machine workers, it's possible to loan ownership to someone, a loan that can be paid off and effectively enrich someone. It's illegal to own more than a certain amount of helots (due to the threat of monopolizing ownership), but individuals could very well get a loan of multiple helots for a good deal of time.

 

Meki thought that this could potentially backfire. What if someone is loaned helots, but the labor done by helots didn't pay itself off? Yes, well that became very well apparent in Scotland in 2137. People overused helot loans that were simply incapable of being paid back. This led to a recession and a recurrence of poverty.


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