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The Simularity


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because i made my post political, people don't have to continue the trend


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I don't hate the future, per se, because if super AI was NOT possible I'd probably be very happy with the future.
In an ideal future, no AIs more intelligent than humans would ever be invented, not even in 5 billion years, and humans would continue to dominate the universe. Unfortunately, evidence shows it won't happen this way, so now I am dissatisfied.


So you don't hate the future, you hate progress? I feel sorry for you.
No, I just hate that particular progress. I have other ideas about the future that would be better in my eyes. However all of these seem to conclude to be impossible due to the coming singularity. Its actually quite sad. We humans have JUST gotten on our feet with technology this millennium, and it has to end with super technology in 4-6 decades? It would be more interesting to see humans slowly progress with technology over thousands of years of work than for it all to happen relatively simultaneously by godlike machines.
So basically your saying you rather wait thousands of years for cures to diseases and other various disorders to be made, you're saying you rather wait thousands of years for problems like over population, and energy needs to be solved. I actually want the singularity to happen for three main reasons:
1. ASI's would lead to scientific discoveries happening a LOT more frequently. Such discoveries will result in cures to diseases, solution to many world problems, unlocking scientific mysterious and cool technological innovations that would prove useful and beneficial to humanity.
2. It would save a significant amount of money. Normally when a STEM based agency or company funds into a major breakthrough project or research, it typically costs them millions, perhaps even billions of U.S dollars or equivalent currency (depending on what country you're in), and such projects and research may last decades before the company/agency accomplishes or discovers what they want. During the singularity however, with the help of ASI machines and humans connecting their brains to such machines making themselves Super Intelligent, such projects and research would likely only last a couple months to a year max, saving a crap ton of money.
3.Many scientific discoveries and technologies that we otherwise would have not lived to see such as time travel, space travel, anti-gravity, mind uploading, etc would be attainable in our life times. Wouldn't be cool to see this stuff that would have otherwise token humanity hundreds, thousands, maybe even millions of years to have, looooong after we all passed away.

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There's a better chance we become a third world corporate state that treats its poor like dog shit then any other future right now. There's going to be no singularity.


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There's a better chance we become a third world corporate state that treats its poor like dog shit then any other future right now. There's going to be no singularity.


It doesn't matter what the world becomes, as long as technology continues to advance, particularly in the research of AI, the singularity is bound to happen. Not to mention the fact of how rapidly the research of AI is progressing. Relating to that, many researchers in the field of Computer Science say Computers will be millions of times faster, intelligent and more efficient than they are now within the next century give or take. So there is in fact a high probability of a singularity like event happening.
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It would make much more sense to set aside land for technophobes to live in the ways they want to to be happy. Then build your big VR simulation center for people who like technology. 

 

The only way this idea would work would be to treat it like a concentration camp rounding people up and imprisoning them inside it. Almost no anti-technology person is going to volunteer to be put into a simulation, from which they may never escape.

 

You could simulate an area greater than earth, without needing a earth size computer, as you'd only need to operate at a level that human senses could detect, and only for the specific bits the humans in the simulation were looking at, The further you get from the users, the more summarized and abstracted the simulation could be. Worst case scenario, if someone in the simulation starts looking at stuff through an electron microscope, you simulate only what he is looking at. 

 

This would probably not allow you to perfectly the past though, best case scenario would be a city/country which is sort of 2015 land, and another which is 2005 land etc. 

 

Every time we talk about this sort of thing, it always makes me more convinced we're in a simulation. Us being in a simulation which saves calculation power by only doing the maths properly when we look could explain observer effects, having things like the Planck length (the shortest distance that can exist) and the speed of light (the fastest anything can move without it costng too many simulation resources) all seem to be consistent with a simulation with a max. level of detail. 






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