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Poll: PRC vs. USA (19 member(s) have cast votes)

When will China surpass the USA?

  1. They already have (0 votes [0.00%])

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  2. 2018-2024 (9 votes [47.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.37%

  3. 2025-2029 (7 votes [36.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.84%

  4. After 2030 (2 votes [10.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  5. Never (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

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Chinese President Hu Jintao warns starkly on corruption as he opens a Communist Party congress that will see a once-in-a-decade power transfer.

Video is here: - http://www.bbc.co.uk...-china-20233101

Time for China's Communist Party to change people by the looks of it.

Edited by Time_Traveller, 08 November 2012 - 08:33 AM.

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I hope the new generation is even more pro-science!

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http://www.businessi...take-us-2012-11 Also as far as developed nations go: http://www.thestar.c...t-50-years-oecd So... yeah...

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They're doing something right with building their own country and investing in technology. Something America should think about.

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http://www.businessi...take-us-2012-11



This report assumes that "growth" will still be happening in 2060 (clearly impossible on a finite planet which is already stretched to the limit), and that climate change won't cause irreparable economic damage reaching into the multi-$trillions (inevitable, given our current path).
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http://www.businessi...take-us-2012-11



This report assumes that "growth" will still be happening in 2060 (clearly impossible on a finite planet which is already stretched to the limit), and that climate change won't cause irreparable economic damage reaching into the multi-$trillions (inevitable, given our current path).


Only finite as long as we stay on it. By 2060 we could be moving outwards into the solar system.

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http://www.businessi...take-us-2012-11



This report assumes that "growth" will still be happening in 2060 (clearly impossible on a finite planet which is already stretched to the limit), and that climate change won't cause irreparable economic damage reaching into the multi-$trillions (inevitable, given our current path).


Very true, but I'm not the one making the prediction. However, I also agree with the above poster, that perhaps, considering that Lunar Politics and Exploration and Development begin picking up within the next 20 years that it's possible this new industry could help increase our growth potential. :) Our world just gets more and more interesting. :)

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That is also assuming that China does not run into any major problems in the next decade or two. We only have to look at the U.S economy to realize that no matter how big an economy a country has it will eventually run into problems. There is no realistic way that China will continue to grow at a rate that high for 50 years.
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Also China will never be an economic model for the world

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1 billion people wanting to live like a developed nation so soon? Let the disco of stagnation begin!

"Since we first emerged, a few million years ago in East Africa, we have meandered our way around the planet. There are now people on every continent and the remotest islands, from pole to pole, from Mount Everest to the Dead Sea, on the ocean bottoms and even, occasionally, in residence 200 miles up - humans, like the gods of old, living in the sky."


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I could see China become a 35-40 trillion dollar economy within the next 20 years.

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People should be aware of the problems with 50 years of nonstop growth. It doesn't happen, it is just a fantasy people have in their minds, and leads to all the problems we are facing today.

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People should be aware of the problems with 50 years of nonstop growth. It doesn't happen, it is just a fantasy people have in their minds, and leads to all the problems we are facing today.


All hell will break lose on this planet if growth stops!

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Hu Jintao to be taken over by Xi Jingping http://www.reuters.c...E8AD1GF20121115
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"Since we first emerged, a few million years ago in East Africa, we have meandered our way around the planet. There are now people on every continent and the remotest islands, from pole to pole, from Mount Everest to the Dead Sea, on the ocean bottoms and even, occasionally, in residence 200 miles up - humans, like the gods of old, living in the sky."


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I hope Xi Jingping is a huge science and space fan!

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Hello long-term stagnation!

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Hello long-term stagnation!


I hope not...I'd like to see a lot more space focus.

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Some interesting developments. Finally catching attention at least. Unfortunately references of the letter are being censored in China itself of course. Thoughts?

 

China academics warn of "violent revolution" if no political reform

 

http://www.reuters.c...E8BU01W20121231

 

A prominent group of Chinese academics has warned in a bold open letter that the country risks "violent revolution" if the government does not respond to public pressure and allow long-stalled political reforms.

 

The 73 scholars, including well-known current and retired legal experts at top universities and lawyers, said political reform had not matched the quick pace of economic expansion.

 

"If reforms to the system urgently needed by Chinese society keep being frustrated and stagnate without progress, then official corruption and dissatisfaction in society will boil up to a crisis point and China will once again miss the opportunity for peaceful reform, and slip into the turbulence and chaos of violent revolution," they wrote.

 


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"Since we first emerged, a few million years ago in East Africa, we have meandered our way around the planet. There are now people on every continent and the remotest islands, from pole to pole, from Mount Everest to the Dead Sea, on the ocean bottoms and even, occasionally, in residence 200 miles up - humans, like the gods of old, living in the sky."


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Partially plays into why I think China may be more likely to go to war with Japan to distract from the issue of corruption. Nothing like nationalism to crush a violent overthrow of communism!



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the chinese scholars are right. they need progressive political reforms fast and i can definitely see that coming...with middle class increasing in numbers and becoming powerful plus enough access to the internet for western thoughts and ideas (i heard its quite easy to hack your way out of the chinese firewall), it is inevitable. even if the govt does not like it, this would be a good thing for china and for the world.


Edited by Zeitgeist123, 31 December 2012 - 10:57 AM.

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