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Google can also decide what is The Truth and what is not.

 

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It also made me wonder if this is the reason Google is pioneering self-driving technology - more web time, more revenue.

 

 

Oh wait a minute... all the other wonderful things Google is doing for us... no it can't be... all just for more ad revenue!

 

Google is more evil than we suspect!

Or maybe we're more evil than we think we are.


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That quote by Nino Karotta doesn't make sense to me. 

 

 

I expect humanity as we know it to outlast the widespread use of AVs by no more than three decades. I'd bet that by 2065 we'll either have more in common with our AVs than with current humans, or we will be extinct altogether.

 

What does he base this on? What exactly does he even mean by "more in common with AVs"?


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"Humanity as we know it" + "More in common with AVs than current humans" = Transhumanism


Out of context, it sounds pessimistic.
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Alright. Am I alone in thinking that this form of transhumanism (by 2065), as he lays it out, is completely overexaggerated?


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And Kurzweil's (ever expanding nanite intelligence) isn't? It's the extinction line that throws me off.
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And here's an infographic!

http://www.driverles...ture.com/?p=750
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Drove past a speed limit sign today, and the top screw was missing so the sign and fallen and hung from the bottom screw only. Instead of saying 80 it said 08. 

 

Now, what would a self-driving make of that? Would it obey the mapping system it was using (80 kph) or the sign it observes (08 kph)? 

 

Not a big problem (everyone else can overtake it), but an example of what I presume is a massive number of scenarios that these cars might struggle with, and aren't common enough to program for. 



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Drove past a speed limit sign today, and the top screw was missing so the sign and fallen and hung from the bottom screw only. Instead of saying 80 it said 08. 

 

Now, what would a self-driving make of that? Would it obey the mapping system it was using (80 kph) or the sign it observes (08 kph)? 

 

Not a big problem (everyone else can overtake it), but an example of what I presume is a massive number of scenarios that these cars might struggle with, and aren't common enough to program for. 

I would think that it would use the mapping system, not what it saw on the road. Signs can, after all, be messed with. Then again, signs might not even be present. Have a look at this (one of my first posts on the forum!)

 

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It would likely have all the signs registered in its software, so it would see the sign compare it against it's database of signs and match it to one it knows, if it sees a sign of 08 it would not be able to match that against any data it has and would probably then ignore it.


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                                                                 Nikola Tesla - New York World, May 19th 1907 


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Question: what will you guys do if you feel the car is moving too slowly for your taste because it HAS to follow the speed limit and you're already late for work?

 

IMO, there is nothing we can do about it. It is our responsibility to leave our residences at the time we know would allow the autonomous car to arrive at the workplace on time while following the speed limit signs along the way.

 

I'm pretty sure the controls in the car will calculate for you how much time it will take to get from point A to point B under various start and end times. Heck, we'll probably have apps custom-made for interfacing with all aspects of your car, including navigation metrics. Tesla is already doing this.


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Aside from the problems associated with the internet of things (fears of hacking etc) future cars may be part of it, so would be cool for it to be linked with your alarm clock in the morning and tell you as soon as you get up what time you need to leave the house in order to get to work on time for that specific day.


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“If the genius of invention were to reveal to-morrow the secret of immortality, of eternal beauty and youth, for which all humanity is aching, the same inexorable agents which prevent a mass from changing suddenly its velocity would likewise resist the force of the new knowledge until time gradually modifies human thought.” 

 

                                                                 Nikola Tesla - New York World, May 19th 1907 


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I guarantee that someone would hack into the system and program it to exceed the speed limit, cut up all the BMW's it sees, and otherwise severely irritate all the other smart cars. Maybe they'd retaliate.....

 

Suppose the cars became so smart they'd change their programming? Maybe they'd go on strike or start hooting at each other, doing doughnuts in the middle of the M25, and otherwise misbehaving.

 

You wouldn't need suicide bombers anymore, by the way....

 

I'm still in favour of them, though, since I live in France. :biggrin:



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Aside from the problems associated with the internet of things (fears of hacking etc) future cars may be part of it, so would be cool for it to be linked with your alarm clock in the morning and tell you as soon as you get up what time you need to leave the house in order to get to work on time for that specific day.

 

Also part of the Internet of Things should be an autonomous electrocuter to "assist" with waking up. Of course, this shocking contraption and the car will collaborate in the best interest of the sleeping guy.  :)


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So as far as I know, there were up to this point no commercially available self-driving cars.  I know that Volvo is testing some in Europe, Google is testing some in the Silicon Valley, and no doubt other car companies are testing their own versions.  However, today every Tesla owner received this email:

 

From: Tesla [mailto:newsletter@teslamotors.com]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:11 AM
Subject: Your Autopilot has arrived

 

Starting today, every Model S comes equipped with Tesla Version 7 software and Autopilot capabilities. Model S is designed to keep getting better over time. Our latest software update allows Model S to use its unique combination of cameras, radar, ultrasonic sensors, and data to steer down the highway, change lanes, and adjust speed in response to traffic. Once you’ve arrived at your destination, Model S scans for a parking space and parallel parks on your command.

 

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Starting today, every Model S comes equipped with Tesla Version 7 software and Autopilot capabilities. Model S is designed to keep getting better over time. Our latest software update allows Model S to use its unique combination of cameras, radar, ultrasonic sensors, and data to steer down the highway, change lanes, and adjust speed in response to traffic. Once you’ve arrived at your destination, Model S scans for a parking space and parallel parks on your command.

Model S can’t make traffic disappear, but Version 7 software makes it a lot easier, safer, and more pleasant to endure.

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So as of today, everyone who owns a Tesla Model S now has their self-driving feature, called Autopilot.  It is NOT a fully autonomous car that can drive itself without someone in the driver's seat, but it can drive itself in limited situations.  So I believe this is it.  We now live in a world where anyone with the money can buy a car that can drive itself.  Primarily this going to be like cruise control.  It's not good for city driving, but it can handle highway driving just fine, and it can change lanes.  You do still have to sit in the driver's seat, and the car makes you touch the steering wheel every so often just to make sure you're paying attention.  Still, I'm super excited that the technology is here!  Now I just want to know how much longer until my car can drive itself to work with me taking a nap in the back seat!


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Let's wait a month or so to see how this pans out huh....



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Of course we're gonna wait a bit to make sure it works as advertised, but goddammit, my prediction still came true.
 

A semi-autonomous car is released to the market


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Hard to believe it's only 2015.


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