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What If the Soviet Union Reunited Today?

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Very interesting. The geography problem is a large reason why some pundits believe that the Crimean grab was simply the beginning. Mainly I read about this in Peter Zeihan's "The Accidental Superpower". 


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Yes, very interesting video. So the former USSR had more land area than all of Pluto  :o

 

And yeah, it goes to show how desperate and vulnerable Russia has become. No more buffer zone to protect Moscow. And not only that, but several of these former Soviet States have joined the hostile NATO. The border of Estonia is only 140 km from Saint Petersburg. Moscow 600 km from the Latvian border. Imagine if Dallas was the U.S. capital and the Warsaw Pact went right up to the Mexican border. It's like that. 

 

And much of the Western Media talks about Russia being aggressive...



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I think people overestimate the value of land mass as a buffer zone these days.

 

If an attack was launched from Estonia or Latvia,  they'd  probably get flattened, even if NATO emerged victorious. so they'd only do it if there was huge massing of forces in those countries first, which means you still don't get the surprise attack. 

 

A thousand miles is what, 10 minutes of hypersonic missile flight time?



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^^^ I actually think it's the opposite.

No matter what time in history and no matter how technologically advanced, geography has always played and will continue to play a major role in how a country behaves. The Northern European Plain is a wide clear avenue from Western Europe to Moscow, a huge vulnerability for Russia. Russia has and continues to try to keep a buffer zone of states between Moscow and Western Europe to combat this vulnerability.



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^^^ I actually think it's the opposite.

No matter what time in history and no matter how technologically advanced, geography has always played and will continue to play a major role in how a country behaves. The Northern European Plain is a wide clear avenue from Western Europe to Moscow, a huge vulnerability for Russia. Russia has and continues to try to keep a buffer zone of states between Moscow and Western Europe to combat this vulnerability.

 

 

Geography has been steadily coming less of an important factor in warfare for hundreds of years.

 

It doesn't matter how easy it is to invade Russia, the EU could declare war and then manage to have Moscow locked down in less than an hour. It makes no difference.

 

Here are some quotes from an article on a hypothetical invasion of Russia. 

 

...the brutal Russian winter. How could a modern army deal with this ancient problem?
 

Konrad Muzyka: I agree that from a historical perspective this has been a problem many countries have succumbed to. But the advent of precision guided munitions and, more importantly, nuclear weapons have completely nullified the issue. Any potential conflict with the West would most likely be fought in the air, space, and sea. Any use of land forces would be limited to capturing strategically important facilities—bridges, airfields, and the like. Given the size of Russian territory, I don't think anyone would be interested in moving their troops to Russia and holding them there.

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Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons even in a regional conflict scenario. As such, any country taking on Russia needs to be aware of a dramatic and quick escalation that could take place.

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 As I mentioned previously, any conflict with NATO countries or China would most likely involve nuclear weapons, which would, in turn, lead to mutually assured destruction (MAD).

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Moving on, how could you neutralize Russia's nuclear capability?
You can't. Russia possesses second-strike capability, and unless you're ready to take a nuclear hit from Russia—which no one can—you need to embrace the notion of a total annihilation of your country.

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It is estimated that Russia possesses around 4,300 nuclear warheads. Another 700 strategic and 2,000 non-strategic warheads are in storage. Just like in the case of the US, Russian deterrence is based on a triad of systems [land, air, and sea]. Even if you knocked out the land and air delivery systems/platforms, submarines fitted with nuclear ICBMs would be virtually undetectable once they'd left Russian ports.

 

The guy they are interviewing does go on to make a lot of the points you have made, but they are all in a "assuming nuclear weapons did not exist" sort of scenario. 







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