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Via Reuters: "North Korea planning more rocket launches and planned nuclear test are "aimed" at U.S: KCNA news agency"

 

Also, completely unrelated to missiles but I found this really interesting article regarding NK and marijuana. 

 

http://www.businessi...arijuana-2013-1


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time to intervine



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World Have Your Say: Is it time for North Korea to be taken more seriously?

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If we're lucky, how much longer could Kim Jong Un remain in office if a war ensures?

 

Also, what will become of the government's supporters? Will they start a rebel group?


Edited by Guyverman1990, 25 January 2013 - 01:12 PM.


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If we're lucky, how much longer could Kim Jong Un remain in office if a war ensures?

20 years then things will start to shake. but it is just a random guess based on alteration of world economy.



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North Korea is an example of why communism/socialism doesn't work.. I don't really think NK will last much longer economy wise, and as the internet expands, so will freedom in North Korea.. some people there are able to leave their governments internet network and see some south korean websites, which is a good sign of hope because maybe sometime in the near future the regime will fall apart. 

One problem though, North Koreas army is huge.. and most of their people are brainwashed to believe south korea is a poor, evil country, and north korea is wealthy, and prosperous.. I only hope North Korea will become democratic, and capitalistic like South Korea.



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While I also hope the country will move away from its authoritarian government, North Korea is not an example of why communism/socialism doesn't work. It is a good example of how trying to think such a system can be a quick transition from capitalism to that doesn't work. I used to be a hardcore socialist and any socialist will tell you North Korea is a horrible example of it just like most authoritarian and 'in name' communist nations.  China is most guilty of that. It's just a straight-forward command economy (China does it through state capitalism) that has nothing really that resembles the ideals of socialism.

 

You're lumping both together too but they're different in they're own respects. Nonetheless, both are all about public ownership of the means of production. Socialism is in the best simplest nutshell definition the democratization of the workplace so the means of production are in the hands of the workers and not owners (or in their jargon the "capitalists"). Public ownership ≠ state ownership as in North Korea in this sense. Certain socialists may espouse the state involvement like this but most would like to avoid it. This is also why true socialists HATE welfare (dammit Obama..stop being so socialist! :p) and also why these terms also get muddled with state ownership in capitalist nations even though each system is very different from China to North Korea to Sweden to the US. Socialism is all about to each according to his contribution while communism is about from each according to his ability, each according to his need. Communism just takes it a step further and proceeds to have a stateless, classless, and moneyless society. 

 

That said, we've failed in trying to attempt to move toward this side of the spectrum simply because of many dynamics that drove us away from the supposed fears of communism, misinformation, and just trying to adjust to such a radically different system. On the other side though we've never attempted a purely capitalist society either so for the most part nations as of late tend to the middle. Recent attempts at trying to get smaller government and moving toward that laissez-faire type system have met opposition.

 

And yes I also hope North Korea will relinquish its hold on the nation and its people. When and how is the million dollar question. Kim Jong-un being so young can pull many wild cards like threatening to test missiles aimed at the US. Talk is talk but we'll see just how far he takes his reforms and his military. 


Edited by Cody930, 30 January 2013 - 02:49 PM.

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Here's a possible scenario: the NK economy is already in the process of collapse, and after the government is finally toppled Kim Jong Un will unleash a lolhueg amount of ICBMs in all directions as a final "fuck you, capitalist pigs! If the glorious nation of North Korea cannot rule supreme, nobody can!"

This event will occur in approximately 1 month.


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Here's a possible scenario: the NK economy is already in the process of collapse, and after the government is finally toppled Kim Jong Un will unleash a lolhueg amount of ICBMs in all directions as a final "fuck you, capitalist pigs! If the glorious nation of North Korea cannot rule supreme, nobody can!"

This event will occur in approximately 1 month.

 

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ahahahaha thats so funny but also sad if you think about the reality of it.



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And also N.Korens do not have access on international internet. if i remeber in a documentary there is something similar but you can connect  just on local website  and no many can afford a compiuter. International phone calls are aslo punishble by death..how internet can free them if they live in a state of total isolation?



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Yes which is why it'd be a problem intervening because they'd see the enemy as just that, the enemy and nothing else. Only they're nation is the best that can be. It'd be hard to rally 20+ million people in your favor when a super-majority are basically brainwashed.


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Talking about N.Korean army, this is one of the few coutnries that was really able to resist to Western Power military speaking.



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An interesting tidbit. Google maps revealed a more detailed looks at some areas of NK. Famous structures and roads are labeled in Pyongyang. 

 

http://www.nytimes.c...korea.html?_r=0

 

"While the Google map, left, used crowdsourcing to add labels for places in Pyongyang, Curtis Melvin's digital atlas of North Korea used several sources to mark geographic features."

 

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:(

 

Cannibalism Reported in Famine-Stricken North Korea

 

http://www.livescien...annibalism.html

 

Numerous reports from North Korea indicate that starving residents of the isolated regime, where famine is an all-too-regular occurrence, may now be resorting to cannibalism.

 

One report from the British newspaper The Sunday Timesstated that a man was put to death by firing squad after officials discovered he had killed and cooked two of his own children.

 


"Since we first emerged, a few million years ago in East Africa, we have meandered our way around the planet. There are now people on every continent and the remotest islands, from pole to pole, from Mount Everest to the Dead Sea, on the ocean bottoms and even, occasionally, in residence 200 miles up - humans, like the gods of old, living in the sky."


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One report from the British newspaper The Sunday Timesstated that a man was put to death by firing squad after officials discovered he had killed and cooked two of his own children.

 

I wonder how people can believe that their country is glorious when the poorest of them resort to cannibalism. I know that they're spoon fed this "world's greatest nation" crap, but how can they experience famine and poverty and NOT question that a little? Cognitive dissonance, maybe?



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 Gosh .... thats a crazy sign



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:(

 

Cannibalism Reported in Famine-Stricken North Korea

 

http://www.livescien...annibalism.html

 

Numerous reports from North Korea indicate that starving residents of the isolated regime, where famine is an all-too-regular occurrence, may now be resorting to cannibalism.

 

One report from the British newspaper The Sunday Timesstated that a man was put to death by firing squad after officials discovered he had killed and cooked two of his own children.

 

And then the firing squad probably cooked this man as well...


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Earthquake Detected in North Korea

 

February 11, 2013

 

http://www.nytimes.c...smid=tw-nytimes

 

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — The U.S. Geological Survey said Tuesday it had detected a magnitude 4.9 earthquake in North Korea, but neither Pyongyang nor Seoul confirmed whether North Korea had conducted its widely anticipated third nuclear test.

 

The South Korean Defense Ministry said it was trying to determine whether North Korea had conducted a nuclear test. Nuclear blasts can create tremors but they are distinct from those caused by natural earthquakes.

 

North Korea's powerful politburo vowed to continue firing "powerful long-range rockets," but a statement Tuesday made no mention of Pyongyang's promise to conduct a nuclear test.

 

The United States and its allies have been on edge since North Korea said last month it will conduct its third nuclear test to protest toughened sanctions over a December rocket launch that the U.N. called a cover for a banned missile test.

 

North Korea's powerful National Defense Commission said Jan. 23 that the United States was its prime target for a nuclear test and long-range rocket launches. North Korea accuses Washington of leading the push to punish Pyongyang for its December rocket launch.

 

Last October, a spokesman from the commission told state media that the country had built a missile capable of striking the United States, but did not provide further details. A missile featured in an April 2012 military parade appeared to be an intercontinental ballistic missile, but its authenticity has not been verified by foreign experts.


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like this isnt enough to the disgrace that people have there







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