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2017 UK General Election News and Discussions

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Liberal Democrats promise second Brexit referendum

The Liberal Democrats will offer British voters a second referendum on Brexit in their manifesto for June’s election.

Tim Farron, the leader, said his party had a duty to offer a distinct alternative to the Tories and Labour, who both support a clean break with the EU.

He added that the party raised £1.6m in donations in the four days following the announcement of the general election. The Lib Dems have said they wish to represent those who voted for the UK to remain in the EU.

Read more: https://www.ft.com/c...4b-5528796fe35c

 

Having briefly checked Tim Farron up on Wiki, it seems like he's got some decent goals. The one thing that irks me is that he's an evangelical Christian. Today he's a bit on some news websites for refusing to say whether gay sex is a sin or not. I don't care what this guy believes in private but my concern is the ability to separate personal beliefs from politics, which seems to be the case with him, for most part. Under the Wiki page about him, he seems to have voted in favour for same sex marriage but there's a few things here and there that wasn't quite right.

 

Either way, he seems like a better choice than some others. I've always voted for Greens, even if I know they won't get in power but my rationalisation was that I don't want to vote for people I don't support... I don't know what to think about this one though.



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Liberal Democrats promise second Brexit referendum

The Liberal Democrats will offer British voters a second referendum on Brexit in their manifesto for June’s election.

Tim Farron, the leader, said his party had a duty to offer a distinct alternative to the Tories and Labour, who both support a clean break with the EU.

He added that the party raised £1.6m in donations in the four days following the announcement of the general election. The Lib Dems have said they wish to represent those who voted for the UK to remain in the EU.

Read more: https://www.ft.com/c...4b-5528796fe35c

 

Do the Liberal Democrats stand any chance at all, or are they just some small, irrelevant party? I'm not too familiar with UK politics, so I apologise if this is a stupid question. Also, are there any other anti-Brexit parties that could form a coalition with the Lib Dems? 

 

 

They got big enough to form a coalition with the Tories in the past, you can read about it here. I thought I'd point you to a relevant answer but someone else can probably answer some of your questions better in detail. I've only been living here for 8 years but my understanding is that it would be difficult for them to get in on their own, unless a big shift happens. By that I mean that people who voted remain put aside the way they voted in the past and vote instead in favour of Lib Dems to try to remain in the EU.

 

I mean, I voted Greens in the past (which are a small party that would never win) but I'm seriously considering a strategic vote this time around.



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French polling puts more pressure on Brexit.

https://www.theguard...in-brexit-talks
'Force always attracts men of low morality' - Einstein
'Great spirits always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds' - Einstein

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'What's happening in Britain worries me': Tony Blair reveals why he's returning to politics 20 years after 1997 victory

1 MAY 2017

Twenty years ago today Britain celebrated an election victory which brought the sparkling hope of New Labour and the youngest Prime Minister in a century.

It seemed anything was possible and, as the soundtrack to the party’s election campaign promised, things really could only get better.

In today’s Daily Mirror Tony Blair marks the anniversary of his epic 1997 landslide victory over John Major – with the extraordinary revelation he is returning to UK politics .

For a man who sparked huge anger – revulsion even – over his decision to follow America into war in Iraq, it is a bold move.

“This Brexit thing has given me a direct motivation to get more involved in the politics,” he passionately declares. “You need to get your hands dirty and I will.”

http://www.mirror.co...ies-me-10331148



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Absolutely clueless woman... the most toe-curling interview I've ever seen. And she is the Shadow Home Secretary! One of the most senior positions in the opposition!

 

http://www.lbc.co.uk...er-policy-cost/

 

Labour are going to be routed next month, due to their inept leadership and useless cabinet.



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Local elections: Voters heading for the polls

4 May 2017

 

Voters are heading to the polls for local and mayoral elections in England, Wales and Scotland.

A total of 4,851 council seats are up for grabs in 88 councils - all of those in Scotland and Wales, plus 34 in England, including 27 counties.

Six new "metro mayors" will be elected, covering areas including Greater Manchester, the West Midlands and the West of England.

Polling stations opened at 07:00 and close at 22:00 BST.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-39795931

 

I will be interesting who will be the next council in Gloucester. They say we will find out around 3am tomorrow morning,


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Absolutely clueless woman... the most toe-curling interview I've ever seen. And she is the Shadow Home Secretary! One of the most senior positions in the opposition!

 

http://www.lbc.co.uk...er-policy-cost/

 

Labour are going to be routed next month, due to their inept leadership and useless cabinet.

They're not looking good certainly, but its been a team effort, Corbyn has the cabinet he has because most of the rest of the MPs have refused to work with him.

 

It never had anything to do with Corbyn's "leadership" really. They're just center/right politicians who had taken over a left wing party, and they aren't willing to toe the line and pretend to be left wing for long enough for Corbyn to lose "fairly".

 

The reality is that the left wing of the labour party (momentum etc.) won't let the centrists take over their party again if they can help it, (and so far they can). It doesn't matter how hard the Blairites work to make labour unelectable, they can have all the votes of no confidence in the world. The Lefties tried letting the "moderates" run the show, and what they got was basically Tory-lite under Blair (as they see it) so from their perspective its:

 

A) Stick it out, have a left wing voice in politics, The Tories will probably screw up enough eventually that they'll be able to get in (With a coalition at least). They'll probably lose a couple of elections before that happens but at least they're being heard.

 

B) Back off, let another Tony Blair take over. Maybe now you don't have a Tory govt, possibly you might see some sort of end to Austerity! You also have no actual Left wing voice anywhere in UK politics (except possibly the greens sometimes?) The govt will never stop backing corporations and the rich over the common people, they will never have a govt. that represents their interests.

 

So that explains why they're so happy to go down with the ship, if that's what it takes. Its what the Blairites think they are doing that confuses me. 

 

Honestly, looking at their actions since just before they decided to put Corbyn's name on the ballot, their behaviour can only be explained 2 ways:

 

1). They are hilariously bad at politics.

 

2). Some number of Labour MPs were paid or promised a lot of money by someone to make sure the labour party was not a viable option in future elections. 



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Local Elections Live

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-39799138

 

By the sounds of it, My council in Gloucestershire goes from No Overall Control to Full conservative control. Anyway I am glad that I have voted what I did whatever the outcome. See here also: - http://www.glouceste...tail/story.html


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Gordon Brown accuses Tories of 'waging war against poor'

13 May 2017

 

Theresa May is "waging a war against the poor" and risks leaving the country more divided than at any time in 50 years, former PM Gordon Brown has said.

Addressing Labour activists in Fife, he said poverty levels were set to eclipse those last seen in the early 1990s.

He acknowledged the challenge facing Labour but said "no Tory prime minister should ever be given a free hand".

Mrs May has urged lifelong Labour voters who feel "deserted" by Jeremy Corbyn to put their trust in her.

In his biggest intervention to date in the election campaign, Mr Brown attacked the record of the Conservatives and the SNP in power and said a Labour government was needed more than ever.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...-2017-39906815#


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A bystander took a behind the scenes photo of Theresa May that reduces her campaign to a sham [IMAGE]

 

May 13th, 2017

 

https://www.thecanar...o-a-sham-image/

 

 


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I'm quite surprised actually, I didn't expect to get Labour. I normally vote either Green or LibDem.
 

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This is mine, I was a Lib Dem supporter in the past, Now Green supporter

 

http://uk.isidewith....?from=acarK3XM2


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General election 2017: Labour pledges £37bn for the NHS by 2022

15 May 2017

 

Labour says it will spend an extra £37bn on the NHS in England over the next five years if it wins power.

The investment, including £10bn on upgrading IT systems and repairing buildings, would be funded by tax increases and capital borrowing.

Jeremy Corbyn blamed the NHS cyber attack on "Tory cuts", promising a service "fit for the modern day".

But the Tories said Labour's "nonsensical" economic plans would mean less money for the NHS.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...n-2017-39916367


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General election 2017: Lib Dems would end public sector pay squeeze

 

15 May 2017

 

The Liberal Democrats say they will end the 1% cap on public sector pay rises by increasing wages in line with inflation, if they win the election.

The party said details of how the "carefully costed" plans would be paid for would be set out in its general election manifesto.

It said the policy would give the average public sector worker a pay rise of £779.

But the Conservatives said only they could deliver "strong public services".

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...n-2017-39918154


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Russian Interference in UK Elections?

 

I haven't seen any accusations of this yet, I'm sure they will surface soon. If they don't this is clearly a sign that Putin is getting even better at rigging elections! 

 

But the real question is: Who will Putin back?

 

On the one hand Jeremy Corbyn will be unlikely to do anything military at Russia, and is generally against things like Trident and Xenophobia. So you can see why he  would be more friendly, but his more conciliatory approach means he would be less likely to drive a long term wedge between UK and EU. Also Tory govt. will continue deepening wealth inequalities, which will make the UK more unstable long term. 

 

He probably wouldn't go for the Lib Dems. If they succeed in reversing the Brexit vote, and the EU goes along with it, then the UK would be back as part of a (somewhat) united Europe which would be a bigger rival for Russia (with most of it's members being NATO members)

 

what do you think?

 

On a related note: Why did Putin choose Portugal to win Eurovision?! What plan is this part of? How does this contribute to the downfall of all western civilization?! I can't figure it out, Putin is just too Machiavellian for someone like me to out think.



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Just yet another example of the psychopathy that seems to run like a virus among the Tories.

 

https://tompride.wor...y-in-manifesto/

 

What drives these people to be so despicably Evil and insane?







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