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Might as well bring Germany into the mix.

 

Far-Right German Faction Enters State Parliament After Recruiting Neo-Nazis

 

http://www.bing.com/...&FORM=QBLH&sp=2

 

 

Bringing neo-Nazi figures into mainstream politics in a manner unprecedented in recent German history, the far-right extremist Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) has entered state parliament in Germany's smallest state of Saarland. Since its formation in 2013, the AfD party has won election after election and now holds seats in 11 out of 16 German state parliaments.

 

The AfD party received 6.2 percent of total votes for Landtag in Saarland last month, although it had been anticipating a much larger share of the vote only a few months ago and is considered to be in a slump.

 

This follows revelations published by Stern magazine just last year in March that the head of AfD-Saarland, chairman Josef Dörr, was using WhatsApp messenger and his email to collaborate with locally known and active neo-Nazi leaders in his state. The local faction leader working for Dörr, AfD co-deputy Lutz Hecker, was also found corresponding with local Saarland neo-Nazis.

 

Most shockingly, however, both Dörr and Hecker were actively recruiting members from rank-and-file supporters of various Saarland neo-Nazi groups into their own local AfD faction. This included supporters traditionally voting for the Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (NPD) party in German elections. Saarland AfD party leaders gained access to active neo-Nazis in the area after lobbying their appeals to local neo-Nazi organizers, such as senior NPD party member Sascha Wagner and a prominent public hate speech artist Ulrike Reinhardt.

 

The NPD is an official German political party notorious for its crude neo-Nazi imagery and Nazi apologism. In particular, the party is mostly known for protesting against commemorations of Holocaust victims along with their illegal public sentiments involving Holocaust revisionism and denial.

 

 

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An Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) demonstration in Mainz, Germany, November 21, 2015.

(Photo: Franz Ferdinand Photography / Flickr)


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Germany watch thread?!?! Surely it's not the 1930s anymore.

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Not 1930, but 1920s



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1) Nationalism does seem to be on the rise in the Eurasian and North American continents.  So as a major country in Europe, attention should also be paid to signs of nationalism Germany. Even if the danger of neo-Nazism is minimal, nationalistic feelings may manifest themselves in other ways.

 

2)  The idea of a Germany Watch thread is not to exclusively look at the possibility of Germany morphing into a Nazi state.  Rather it is more simply to just have a thread that keeps up with some major current events that are largely internal to Germany, or at least to German relations with the rest of the world.

 

In the spirit of that second point and to further get this thread off the ground:

 

Tentative Stirrings of a Beijing-Berlin Axis

 

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/trump-election-boosts-efforts-at-germany-china-rapprochement-a-1143915.html

 

Introduction:

 

Chinese diplomats have never had the best reputation in Berlin. At times, they've refused to make concessions during treaty negotiations without first asking for permission from Beijing. At others, they've insisted on last minute changes.

 

German Economy Minister Brigitte Zypries and her state secretary, Matthias Machnig, were thus all the more surprised when they met with their Chinese counterparts earlier this month at a Düsseldorf summit for G20 ministers responsible for digital affairs. The transition to the digital era must be regulated, Chinese Minister of Industry and Information Technology Miao Wei said. But, he offered, it must be done together. Machnig concluded: "He is someone we can work with."

 

The source of the unfamiliar amicability, though, is not to be found in Beijing or Berlin, but in Washington D.C. Ever since Donald Trump has entered the White House, traditional alliances on the international stage have been reshuffled and the U.S., which has for decades stood side-by-side with the Germans in the struggle for free trade and a rules-based international order, has lost its moorings. If there is any pattern to be discerned from the Trump administration, it has been a move 

toward  protectionism. Meanwhile, Germany and China, which represent opposing positions in many areas, are exploring rapprochement.

 

Chancellor Angela Merkel spoke to Chinese President Xi Jinping before she made her first visit to the Trump White House. Economy Minister Zypries likewise traveled to China before heading to the U.S. And Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel, who is also Germany's foreign minister, said in reference to Trump's protectionist tendencies: "When one window closes, another opens."

 

China, too, has been conspicuously seeking to improve relations with Germany. For weeks, Germans in Beijing have been noting a Chinese charm offensive, with diplomats and business leaders alike being asked by high-ranking Chinese functionaries what they can do to help.

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When I started this thread, I had this theme (see article below) in the back of my mind. There are really two main drivers for the problems recently encountered by the European Union.  One is the question of immigration.  The second is that of economic policy, especially in regards to the austerity insisted upon by Angela Merkel.  The article below begins to hint at this second driver.

 

Sigmar Gabriel: Merkel’s Austerity is Driving EU to Brink of Collapse

 

http://www.politico....nk-of-collapse/

 

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German Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel thinks the country’s insistence on austerity has pushed Europe to the point where a European Union break-up is no longer inconceivable.

 

“It is indecent that states like France and Italy, that are going through reform, have to spend so much energy to be allowed to go half a percentage point higher in their budget deficit,” he said, criticizing Chancellor Angela Merkel’s push for strict EU budget rules.

 

“I once asked the chancellor, what would be more costly for Germany: for France to be allowed to have half a percentage point more deficit, or for Marine Le Pen to become president?” the Social Democrats (SDP) chairman and Merkel’s coalition partner said. “Until today, she still owes me an answer.”

 

In an interview published Saturday Gabriel told Der Spiegel that his is not a popular message for German voters, “but I also know about the state of the EU. It is no longer unthinkable that it breaks apart.”

 

The vice chancellor is likely to lead his party’s campaign in Germany’s federal elections next September.


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Germany's Angela Merkel Defends Her Foreign Minister in Wake of Netanyahu's Snub
 

 

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Friday defended her Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel, whose meeting with a group critical of Israel's treatment of Palestinians prompted Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to cancel talks.

 

Netanyahu said in an interview with a German newspaper he had tried to telephone Gabriel to clear the air after canceling the talks but the visiting German foreign minister would not take his call.

 

Asked if Gabriel had her backing, Merkel told the RND newspaper group: "Yes, he has that. We were in close contact during his visit to Israel."

 

Netanyahu canceled talks with Gabriel on Tuesday after the minister met members of "Breaking the Silence," an Israeli organization often criticized by the Israeli government over its collection of testimonies from Israeli veterans about the army's treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank.

 

Merkel said she often meets civil society groups during her foreign travels, adding the dispute "changes nothing in our conviction that support for the state of Israel is part of our raison d'etat."


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Wouldn't worry too much about the Germans. These neo-nazis are the bums of their society. Germans are over nationalism and its bad spinoffs. If they wanted to they could easily whoop on everyone once again, they are still the most skilled people on the planet. Germany doesnt need Europe, Europe needs Germany and they are doing it a favour.

I think if they are challenged again by something like Brexit they will leave and leave the rest of Europe to the old world that it is.
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Wouldn't worry too much about the Germans. These neo-nazis are the bums of their society. Germans are over nationalism and its bad spinoffs. If they wanted to they could easily whoop on everyone once again, they are still the most skilled people on the planet. Germany doesnt need Europe, Europe needs Germany and they are doing it a favour.

I think if they are challenged again by something like Brexit they will leave and leave the rest of Europe to the old world that it is.

 

As a German myself this made me chuckle. But at least in one regard you are spot-on: Neo-Nazis aren’t exactly the most respected members of society, to put it lightly.

Fascism simply isn’t a serious political force in Germany.


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Merkel Presses Putin Over Anti-gay Purge in Chechnya

 

https://www.theguard...claims-chechnya

 

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(The Guardian) Angela Merkel has urged Vladimir Putin to investigate reports of the torture and persecution of gay men in Chechnya and to ensure the safety of LGBT people across the region.

 

The German chancellor, making her first visit to Russia for two years, in a trip described by her officials as bridge-building mission, said she had raised the issue with the Russian president along with other human rights concerns.

 

A violent crackdown on gay people in Chechnya was first reported in the newspaper Novaya Gazeta, which has alleged that more than 100 Chechen men suspected of being gay have been rounded up and at least three killed. The Guardian has independently spoken to gay Chechen men who gave accounts of beatings and torture in the ultra-conservative, predominantly Muslim southern Russian republic.

 

The Kremlin has supported the Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov’s denials of an anti-gay purge, arguing that it has no information to back research carried out by journalists and human rights organisations.

 

During a joint press conference with Putin at his summer retreat in Sochi on the Black Sea coast, Merkel said she had received “negative reports on the way that homosexuals are dealt with, particularly in Chechnya”.


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Merkel, After Discordant G-7 Meeting, Is Looking Past Trump

 

 

BERLIN — Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, Europe’s most influential leader, has concluded, after three days of trans-Atlantic meetings, that the United States of President Trump is not the reliable partner her country and the Continent have automatically depended on in the past.

 
Clearly disappointed with Mr. Trump’s positions on NATO, Russia, climate change and trade, Ms. Merkel said in Munich on Sunday that traditional alliances were no longer as steadfast as they once were and that Europe should pay more attention to its own interests “and really take our fate into our own hands.”
 
“The times in which we could rely fully on others — they are somewhat over,” Ms. Merkel added, speaking on the campaign trail after a contentious NATO summit meeting in Brussels and a Group of 7 meeting in Italy. “This is what I experienced in the last few days.”
 
Ms. Merkel’s strong comments were a potentially seismic shift in trans-Atlantic relations. With the United States less willing to intervene overseas, Germany is becoming an increasingly dominant power in a partnership with France.

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Fast forward fifty years - World War III with the Germans winning this time?

 

(On account of U.S. and Russia being being led by kleptocratic idiots).


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Fast forward fifty years - World War III with the Germans winning this time?

 

(On account of U.S. and Russia being being led by kleptocratic idiots).

 

EU led by Germany + China VS Russia + Anglosphere?

 

Trump's loss is Li's gain as Berlin rolls out red carpet for China's PM


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Germany and Austria hit back at U.S. lawmakers Thursday, one day after the Senate passed new provisions that could open the door to sanctions on European companies that do energy business with Russia.

 
The Senate amendment, which passed overwhelmingly but which still needs to clear the House, would ramp up U.S.ability to hit back at Russia. Specifically, under the new legislation, the White House would have the authority to extend sanctions to any firm that invests money to help build Russian energy projects. That takes square aim at Nord Stream 2, a pipeline that would deliver natural gas from Russia directly to Germany, bypassing Ukraine.
 
On Thursday, German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel and Austrian Chancellor Christian Kern said in a joint statement the sanctions, if implemented, could threaten Russian gas supplies to Europe. They called the bill a “new and very negative quality in the European-American relations”.

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Oh my.  It looks like this is where the rubber may hit the road.  Had to read this twice to realize that the legislation would give the president "the authority to extend sanctions."   So, that would only give Trump the authority, it would not mandate that he impose the sanctions.  Of course, the pressure will mount for Trump to show that he is independent of the Russians.  If he has violated the emoluments clause, Russia could then blow the whistle as in "we tried to bribe him but he not stay bought.  Here is the proof that he accepted the bribe."  


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Finally, a decent story about Germany that doesn't mention Angela Merkel  (I skimmed the article, so please do not tell me I'm wrong about the absence of dear Angela).

 

Germany Is Destroying A Whole Lot Of Fidget Spinners & The Internet Couldn’t Be Happier

 

 

http://www.msn.com/e...=ob-fb-enus-280

 

 

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It's official: Fidget spinners have jumped the shark. How could they not, what with the whirlwind and weirdly sordid history they've had in their short, spinny lives?

 

First, they were a mere toy with supposed benefits for anxiety or ADD. Now, there is X-rated fidget spinner content. There are fidget spinner cookies, because of course. There is fidget spinner nail art. And did you know? You can use your fidget spinner to cook your dinner, to contour your makeup, and even to swipe right on your next date. It's high time someone stepped in to say something along the lines of, "Please, no more, I am dizzy, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH." And as of this week, that someone is the country of Germany.

The Associated Press recently reported that German customs officials have seized no less than 35 metric tons of fidget spinners and are planning on — with much dramatic flair — "crushing them out of existence."What All Parents Need to Know About Fidget Spinners.

 

Apparently the officials who tested these possibly-useless toys found they were sub-par in terms of twirly-toy safety. For one thing, "bits could fall off and pose possible choking hazards for small children," according to AP. And if that weren't enough, Christine Strauss, a spokesperson for German customs, added that the gadgets also lacked brand information and legible instructions. And so, to the crush-pile they go.

 

There are probably quite a few German kids who are super bummed about this right now, but the Twitterverse at large is anything but. Parents, teachers, and random adults alike have taken to social media since Germany's announcement to celebrate the mass destruction of the annoying toys. See some of internet's current feelings on fidgets below. I, for one, hope we can consider this a "Ding-Dong, The Fidget's Dead" swan song for the peskiest product since Pogs.


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Germany: Reluctant military giant?

Should Germany become a major military power? And will it happen?
With Vladimir Putin destabilising the east, Middle Eastern and Asian conflicts spurring new migration into Europe, and Donald Trump questioning US commitment to NATO, Germany has good reason to feel insecure.
Chancellor Merkel told Germans in May that "we must fight for our future ourselves as Europeans". German troops have been deployed in locations ranging from Lithuania to Afghanistan and Mali. And Merkel has promised to raise German defence spending.
But Germany and its Chancellor face a fundamental problem. Most Germans are very reluctant to go down this road.


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Germany's Merkel drops opposition to same-sex marriage

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has dropped her opposition to same-sex marriage, giving gay and lesbian groups reason to cheer Tuesday while depriving opposition parties of a key campaign issue three months before elections.
Speaking at a forum Monday evening, Merkel said she was open to a vote of conscience on the issue, in which lawmakers are freed from toeing the party line -- and in which the reform would almost certainly pass.
Previously, the leader of the centre-right Christian Democrats (CDU) had repeatedly voiced her personal reservations about full marriage rights, including joint adoption, for same-sex couples, citing "the well-being of the children".


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German MPs approve gay marriage in snap vote

29 June 2017

 

A clear majority of German MPs have voted to legalise same-sex marriage, days after Chancellor Angela Merkel dropped her opposition to the idea.

The reform gives gay men and lesbians full marital rights, and allows them to adopt children.

At present, same-sex couples are limited to civil unions.

But Mrs Merkel, who only decided to allow the vote on Monday, voted against the measure. Her political opponents were strongly in favour.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-40441712

 

Congrats Germany like so many other countries have.


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