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Top Saudi official ousted, princes reportedly arrested

 

https://www.msn.com/...=ob-fb-enus-280

 

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(AP) RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Saudi Arabia's King Salman has removed a prominent prince who headed the National Guard, replaced the economy minister and announced the creation of a new anti-corruption committee.

 

The Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya news channel also reported late Saturday that dozens of princes and former ministers were detained in a new anti-corruption probe headed by the kingdom's powerful Crown Prince Mohammed Salman. No further details were immediately given.

 

The king ousted one of the country's highest-level royals from power, relieving Prince Miteb bin Abdullah of his post as head of the National Guard. Prince Miteb was once considered a contender for the throne.

 

The monarch also replaced Minister of Economy and Planning Adel Fakeih with his deputy, Mohammad al-Tuwaijri.

 

 

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Saudi prince killed in helicopter crash

 

https://www.msn.com/...ID=ansmsnnews11

 

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(BBC) A Saudi prince has been killed when the helicopter he was travelling in crashed near the border with Yemen, state television reported.

 

Prince Mansour bin Muqrin, the deputy governor of Asir province, was travelling with several officials when the helicopter crashed, Al-Ikhbariya news channel said.

 

The cause of the crash is unknown.

 

Saudi Arabia said it intercepted a ballistic missile, fired from Yemen, near Riyadh airport the day before.

 

Also this weekend, an anti-corruption purge targeted dozens of people, including 11 princes and four ministers, in a move seen to cement the power of the heir to the throne.

 

Concerning the report regarding a ballistic missile, this story (see link below) was posted earlier in the Military & War News and Discussion thread:

 

https://www.msn.com/...=ob-fb-enus-280


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Saudi arrests of princes consolidates another’s power grab

 

https://apnews.com/0...-in-Saudi-sweep

 

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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — Saudi Arabia’s heir to the throne is overseeing an unprecedented wave of arrests of dozens of the country’s most powerful princes, military officers, influential businessmen and government ministers — some potential rivals or critics of the crown prince now consolidating his power.

 

Among those taken into custody overnight Saturday in the purported anti-corruption sweep were billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, one of the world’s richest men with extensive holdings in Western companies, as well as two of the late King Abdullah’s sons.

 

The arrest of senior princes upends a longstanding tradition among the ruling Al Saud family to keep their disagreements private in an effort to show strength and unity in the face of Saudi Arabia’s many tribes and factions. It also sends a message that the 32-year-old crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, has the full backing of his father, King Salman, to carry out sweeping anti-corruption reforms targeting senior royals and their business associates, who have long been seen as operating above the law.

 

Reports suggested those detained were being held at the Ritz Carlton in Riyadh, which only days earlier hosted a major investment conference that the crown prince attended with global business titans. A Saudi official told The Associated Press that other five-star hotels across the capital were also being used to hold some of those arrested.

 

The Ritz Carlton had no availability for bookings until Dec. 1, 2017 — a possible sign that an investigation of this scale could take weeks. Marriott International said in a statement that it is currently evaluating the situation at the Ritz-Carlton in Riyadh, but declined to comment further, citing privacy concerns.


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Iran rejects 'malicious' Saudi accusations after attack

 

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/iran-rejects-malicious-saudi-accusations-attack-171106120156649.html

 

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(Al Jazeera) Iran has rejected accusations by a Saudi-led coalition fighting Houthi rebels in Yemen that it was involved in the firing of a missile that was intercepted north of Saudi Arabia's capital, Riyadh.

 

In a statement on Monday, Bahram Qassemi, spokesperson for Iran's foreign ministry, said the claim of Iranian responsibility for the missile launch late on Saturday, which was claimed by the Houthi rebels, was "malicious, irresponsible, destructive and provocative".

 

"Yemeni response is an independent one and a result of Saudi Arabia's aggression, one which is not carried out or provoked by any other country," said Qassemi. 

 

"The Saudis, who have failed to achieve their evil goals during long-term military aggression against Yemen, are making more problems for their defeated coalition with a clumsy psychological operation to make baseless and totally false accusations," he added, before calling for talks between rival Yemeni factions to end the conflict.

 

Qassemi's comments came shortly after Saudi Arabia condemned what it called a "flagrant military aggression by the Iranian-controlled Houthi militias" and claimed to have evidence of Iranian involvement in Saturday's attack.

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Saudi Arabia has been at war with Houthi rebels in Yemen since 2015

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Saudi Arabia 'Might Become a Totally Different Country'

 

http://www.spiegel.d...-a-1171215.html

 

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(Der Spiegel) Mohammed Hasan Alwan, 38, was born in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, but now calls Toronto home. He's the author of five novels and is the recipient of this year's $50,000 International Prize for Arabic Fiction in for his latest novel, "A Small Death." The book tells a fictional account of the life of Sufi saint Muhyiddin Ibn 'Arabi, who was born in Muslim Spain in the 12th century and died in Damascus.

 

SPIEGEL: How did Ibn 'Arabi change the world?

 

Alwan: Beyond Islam, he has left behind a philosophy that has been described variously as open-minded and tolerant. It is said that it makes all religions equal, and idolizes woman. He is a scholar whom most Sufis refer to as the ''Great Master.'' The thoughts and ideas of Ibn 'Arabi, however, traveled beyond the circles of Sufism to inspire and sometimes upset a wider realm of knowledge-seekers around the world and throughout history. The universal ideas underlying his thinking, which are broadly concerned with divine reality and the human being's experience of it, are considered immediately relevant today.

 

SPIEGEL: Why did an author from the holy land of Saudi Arabia, which ascribes to the Salafi school of thoughts, choose to write about the most important Sufi master, someone whose teachings are almost contradictory to what is heard in the mosques of Riyadh?

 

Alwan: The Salafi school of thought is dominant enough that other branches of Islam, except Shia, are almost nonexistent. So, it is not really a taboo to write about a prominent figure of Sufism. Since it was published, my novel has been available legally and widely in Saudi bookstores.

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A Saudi woman examines a car in a showroom: "A healthy cycle of societal change."


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You know what I wanna see? "Republic of Arabia."


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You know what I wanna see? "Republic of Arabia."

But do republics exist anywhere except in the West and places where the West exported them?


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I mean, the first known republic in history was in India


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You know what I wanna see? "Republic of Arabia."

But do republics exist anywhere except in the West and places where the West exported them?

 

We have had military stationed in Saudi Arabia for decades.

 

Also, Tunisia has (tentatively) established what would appear to qualify as a "republic".


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I mean, the first known republic in history was in India

TIL. Thought it would've been ancient Greece or Rome.


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I mean, the first known republic in history was in India

 

Interesting.


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Millions at risk of famine in Yemen as Saudi Arabia enforces blockade on most ports

 

http://www.latimes.c...1109-story.html

 

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(Los Angeles Times) Even for Yemenis accustomed to the brutal economies of life under a years-long siege, the effect of a blockade of all air, sea and land ports into the country was a surprise.

 

“Food merchants immediately doubled all their prices. Fuel, in one moment, disappeared from the markets and the price of what remains is insanely high,” said Yemeni civil rights activist Baraa Shaiban in a phone interview Thursday from London.

 

“And those who are sick, who need to travel for treatment, they’re the worst hit,” Shaiban said.

 

The result of the closure by a Saudi Arabian-led coalition could be a famine affecting “millions of victims,” said Mark Lowcock, the United Nations undersecretary-general for humanitarian affairs, in a Wednesday briefing at the U.N. Security Council.

 

“It will not be like the famine that we saw in South Sudan earlier in the year where tens of thousands of people were affected. It will not be like the famine which cost 250,000 people their lives in Somalia in 2011,” said Lowcock.


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Israeli Military Chief Gives Unprecedented Interview to Saudi Media: 'Ready to Share Intel on Iran'
 

https://www.haaretz....l-news/1.823163

 

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(Haaretz) A Saudi newspaper published an unprecedented interview on Thursday with the Israeli military chief, Lt. Gen. Gadi Eisenkot. It marks the first time any senior Israel Defense Forces officer, let alone the chief of staff, has been interviewed by a media organization in Saudi Arabia, which does not have diplomatic ties with Israel. 

 

In the interview to the Saudi online newspaper Elaph, Eisenkot called Iran the "real and largest threat to the region." He said Israel and Saudi Arabia are in complete agreement about Iran's intentions.
 
He also noted that Israel and Saudi Arabia have never fought each other.
 
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Israeli military chief of staff Gadi Eisenkot.
 

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Saudi women scholars call out prince's reform agenda

 

http://www.aljazeera...0153233355.html

 

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(Al Jazeera) Leading female scholars from Saudi Arabia have described moves to ease restrictions on women as government spin aimed at an international audience to bolster support for efforts to liberalise its ailing economy.

 

The Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is seeking to appeal to western governments as a reformist while cracking down on the very women inside the country who have been campaigning for an end to systematic discrimination, they say.

 

Rights groups welcome a decision to end a ban on women driving in Saudi Arabia, but have called for more comprehensive changes to the kingdom's "guardianship" system", which Human Rights Watch describes as the main obstacle to realising women's rights.

 

Hala al-Dosari, a prominent Saudi woman academic in the United States, told Al Jazeera: "The government is trying to portray itself as reformist by tackling certain things that are visible to their outside patrons.

 

"They need international businesses to recognise the leadership of Saudi Arabia as a reformer in order to show that they are not discriminating against women and are reforming their competitiveness.

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A woman gives a thumb up as she sits behind the wheel of a car in Riyadh in September

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White House May Share Nuclear Power Technology With Saudi Arabia

 

https://www.propubli...th-saudi-arabia

 

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(Pro Publica) The Trump administration is holding talks on providing nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia — a move that critics say could upend decades of U.S. policy and lead to an arms race in the Middle East.

 

The Saudi government wants nuclear power to free up more oil for export, but current and former American officials suspect the country’s leaders also want to keep up with the enrichment capabilities of their rival, Iran.

 

Saudi Arabia needs approval from the U.S. in order to receive sensitive American technology. Past negotiations broke down because the Saudi government wouldn’t commit to certain safeguards against eventually using the technology for weapons.

 

Now the Trump administration has reopened those talks and might not insist on the same precautions. At a Senate hearing on Nov. 28, Christopher Ford, the National Security Council’s senior director for weapons of mass destruction and counterproliferation, disclosed that the U.S. is discussing the issue with the Saudi government. He called the safeguards a “desired outcome” but didn’t commit to them.

 

Abandoning the safeguards would set up a showdown with powerful skeptics in Congress. “It could be a hell of a fight,” one senior Democratic congressional aide said.

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President Donald Trump at King Khalid International Airport on May 22, 2017, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 

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Wow, i know its been repeated so often at this point, but imagine the reaction from republicans if a democrat president had started trying to give nuclear tech to the nation that produced 15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers. 

 

From what i've been able to see this reform in SA seems to be primarily a PR exercise, with a power shift/struggle going on in the background. 



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To be fair, Republicans might not raise much of a fuss since the Sauds own so many of our own. They may even claim that it's "one of the most American things a Democrat has done in years" because clearly the Sauds are the ones containing those evil Iranians.


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