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my honest thoughts on economic systems of the future

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I'm going off a limb here and say i know jack squat about economics. like, at all. i know what private property is and other things but for the most part, i haven't done much of the research to craft a decent opinion on stuff. warning: may be bias.

 

so capitalism, it sucks right? we got all this inequality and people working their butts off but never getting anything out of it. monopolies are everywhere, being mostly dominate over the industries they rain over. make a mistake, they go Scott-free and the consumers suffer for it. but below all of this are the mom and pop shops trying to make their own in life and getting people to trust them. considering how strong the economy is however, some have tendency to get screwed over.

 

you can even see it in the media we read and watch. when was the last time you seen a legitimately good film that was based on a IP, had a out there premise, and an interesting core to it? mostly just in indie films. the big budgets one usually come off as soulless husk might to make a quick buck. try to ask Hollywood about a movie that isn't that and it gets shot down the moment it hits the word of mouth. but what would you expect? for a system based on competition, risk is something to be avoided. to risk some form of creativity is considered a no go in this economy and if you ever bother, you'll end up a starving artist. a  sad fact among people such as myself.

 

then, there was socialism. although not as widespread, it's commonly discussed as an alternative to ideas of making a better economy. the basis from what I've heard were a bit of an opposite. rather than some CEO owning a business, it was the people who owned it. now, on paper, this sounded like a great idea. no more monopolies crushing down on people or anything, just the people helping to provide the basic needs of everyone. but, like anything made by humans, it had it's flaws. for one thing (and I may off as petty) it covers basic goods like : food, shelter, and clothes and if your lucky, some form of insurance. where does entertainment and recreational activities fit in here? the answer to that is simple. it is a bit of a basic need as humans like finding enjoyment in life and socialism doesn't put too much pressure on simply working, in fact, working is optional in a economy such as socialism. the only problem is how it might be done.

 

one entertainment medium I've discussed before is Flim as well as television. i want to ask you one thing, try turning on the TV, any TV. what do you see? just a show right, turn the channel. just another show. turn the channel again. just another show. do you notice any patterns in this? like, anything in it? you mean the talking head segments, the cameras, and some form of competition? bingo. not all TV shows are like this mind you but it is a thing. same goes for those half hour sitcoms or the hour long dramas. for your breaking bads and penny dreadfuls, there's the big bang theory and the walking dead (the games and comics were great btw). and the countless spin offs some of these get can get weird at times and are they even necessary? no, but it makes sense when money is speaking. people can be dumb sometimes.  matter of fact, some can't even think about the thing they watch and just watch it endlessly. this gives cooperate suits the money and they waltz in their big old mansions. in socialism, that is not the case. a common theory i made is that, possibly, that the write and anyone else making the show has the freedom to do whatever they want. they just need funding.

 

but my main criticism is the reward on all this. what if you piece of media aims for a very niche market? will you benefit from it? especially, when there is no money in this theoretical system. if it ever get published and no one reads it, have you failed? guess you have as people will just remember you as that guy who made this thing that no one liked.

 

that sounds depressing, now to the real meat, how leadership functions and the government. i don't trust the government and this is coming form a liberal. i don't want the government to be the ones who sue when someone steals a idea.  this is my main concern, ideas. i know i may sound desperate, but my ideas are the ones i have made alone and will only share to those a trust. i don't want a bunch of people to end up ripping off to the clearest details. sure, i could sue them if possible, but i'm not a company, we're a bunch of artist that came to together to make something.

 

so in an ideal economy, all i want are some things:

  • some forms of competition but not to the point of crazy rivalry. something indirect.
  • less pronounced class divisions that divided by people who don't work at all, people who work, and people who work the hardest and get the most out of it.
  • some form of currency but not based on meaningless things like paper
  • ways to protect an IP without the involvement of a cooperate entity.
  • decent funding that benefits people
  • allowing the possible of leadership as an option and also democracy. this does not mean CEOs.
  • variety in products then just the same thing made by the government.

maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm stereotyping and i don't know what I'm even talking about. i don't hate socialism. really, i don't. i think it;s a decent phase in a new economy system but it feels too utopia in vision.

 

 



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I just hope that our capitalist overlords keep handing out those happy pills. I don't need a house or a hospital or a school or electricity or democracy but goddammit give me my xanax!
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Please anything besides unregulated capitalism that hands everything to the fucking rich....

 

I honestly believe that some form of hybrid system like in western Europe is probably the best bet.


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thoughts on market socialism and welfare capitalism?



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"some forms of competition but not to the point of crazy rivalry. something indirect."

 

The only way to breed true competition is through a capitalistic society. Humans are motivated by greed, not good will. In a socialist society, incentives to compete are stifled, because the government uses the money of those who work for the "good will" of those who do not contribute at all.

 

"less pronounced class divisions that divided by people who don't work at all, people who work, and people who work the hardest and get the most out of it."

 

There are no class divisions in the US, only those with more money or less money. In a socialist society, those who work the hardest give their "hard earned money" to those who don't work at all. In this way competition is stifled and the people who deserve to succeed the most are brought down by an invasive government. 

 

"some form of currency but not based on meaningless things like paper"

 

You mean like bitcoin? In a capitalistic society, bitcoin will naturally becoming the dominant currency because it is practical and profitable to do so. In a socialist society, this process would be slowed down by a government that would inevitably end up regulating it.  

 

"ways to protect an IP without the involvement of a cooperate entity."

 

The only way to protect an IP, or enforce any law, is through some form of "corporate entity", or government. 

 

"decent funding that benefits people"

 

I do not know what this is supposed to mean, I'm pretty sure a capitalist society has "decent funding".

 

"allowing the possible of leadership as an option and also democracy. this does not mean CEOs."

 

A "CEO" is just another word for business leader. How do you propose to eradicate the CEO? You will find leadership is bountiful in a society that does not heavily tax and regulate the market to the point of bottlenecking it. 

 

"variety in products then just the same thing made by the government."

 

In a capitalist society, the best products are usually the ones that succeed. They very often comes not from the government, but businesses that innovated.


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thoughts on market socialism and welfare capitalism?

 

Social democracy pretty much.

 

Regulated capitalism to protect the consumer from the whims of the super rich is an important part of being first world as such protection makes it possible the lower class to move upwards..Not only is that important for the consumer but we also have to consider the worker as they're slowly losing their voice in the work place with all these "right to work" laws that are destroying the unions. There's also a point in welfare capitalism as long as it is used for the benefit of our nation such examples of such is spacex, government investment into the private sector in the case of solar power, electric cars and many other areas.

 

I don't think they're bad as long as it benefits the people but when it is used as a power grab against the people it becomes bad.


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