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PS5 Release Date, PlayStation 5 Launch Games, PS5 Rumors, How Powerful is the PS5? - Everything we Know

 

Guide by Tom Orry, Hirun Cryer, 02/09/2018.

 

The PS5 will exist. It probably exists in some form right now, and unless the world suddenly comes to a stop and life ceases to exist, the PS5 will be releasing from Sony in the future. But when could the PlayStation 5 potentially release, and what games could debut on the platform? In this PS5 guide, we’ll be rounding up all the PS5 rumors that have made their way out into the wild, as well as offering up our own speculation on the future of Sony’s home console. Details are thin on the ground, but here's our take on the PS5, including a rough overview of the potential power of the PS5 and the PS5 release date. We also look at when we might hear something from Sony about the PS5.

Assuming the PlayStation 5 is already in development to some degree over at Sony, when could the console theoretically release? If we’re going off claims made by industry analyst Michael Pachter, the PS5 release date could be as soon as 2020 (Pachter originally claimed 2019 but then revised the date).

All this is obviously theoretical, but it’s always interesting to hear what long-time industry analysts and experts have to say on the future of blockbuster home consoles like the PlayStation 5. We reckon 2019 is a little early for Sony to release the next PlayStation given the strong position it currently holds in the market, with 2020 making far more sense. If Sony is still riding high in 2019, maybe we'll have to wait until 2021. We'll just have to wait and see.

If we were to put a bet on the PlayStation 5 release date, we'd go with Q4 2020.

 

Read more: https://www.usgamer....speculate-about

 

 

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2019 to 2020 is actually about right, all things considering.

 

PS1

1994-2000= 6 years

 

PS2

2000-2006= 6 years

 

PS3

2006-2013= 7 years

 

PS4

2013=Present= 5 years

 

And these consoles are supported for a long-ass time. I think the PS1 was still being actively developed for as late as 2004, and the PS2 didn't give out until 2013. 

The only reason why there was a longer life for the 7th gen was the Great Recession. Microsoft and Sony lost a lot of money developing the 360 and PS3 and then releasing them below cost (the 360 was rushed to release at that well before the OG Xbox even made it 4 years). The recession put them deeper in the red. That's one reason why the Wii U came out "on time" in 2012. 

 

There's not been an economic downturn since 2013 (yet...), so unless the console developers decide to continue the extended-generation trend (which they seem to be doing with these mid-gen "upgraded consoles"), the PS5 will likely be teased in 2019. Who knows, it might even be teased this year and further expanded upon next year. 

 

As for Xbox... I don't even know what they're going to call the next one. Probably something baffling on an esoteric level like "Xbox Ten" or "Xbox One Two".


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I'm thinking it won't release until at least 2020. Sony still has some big releases for the PS4, which arn't scheduled for this year, and may appear in 2019. Final Fantasy 7 remake and The Last of Us 2, come to mind. Another factor to consider, is that the technology is slowing and hasn't really improved that much. Coffee Lake, which Intel released this year, is still on the 14 nm process. I'm thinking there will be at least another die shrink before Sony considers it worthwhile to release a new console. As it is likely to be, I'm only really expecting a 4 times leap over the PS4 PRO, at best. So considering that the PS4 PRO often runs at 1440p, I'm thinking all we will see is a 2 times improvement in visual fidelity and effects over the PRO, in addition to 4k being standard by that time. Nothing to get really excited about, but perhaps enough to entice gamers who never did the mid-gen upgrade. 



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As for Xbox... I don't even know what they're going to call the next one. Probably something baffling on an esoteric level like "Xbox Ten" or "Xbox One Two".

 

I think for Xbox it would be possibly "Xbox Two" because "Xbox One Two" sounds rather silly.


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As for Xbox... I don't even know what they're going to call the next one. Probably something baffling on an esoteric level like "Xbox Ten" or "Xbox One Two".

 

I think for Xbox it would be possibly "Xbox Two" because "Xbox One Two" sounds rather silly.

 

 

Well, Microsoft has been already silly with its naming conventions for its own console.


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Well, Microsoft has been already silly with its naming conventions for its own console.

 

They are just silly with naming in general.  Case in Point:

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Yeah, I hope Sony don't follow the pattern of Microsoft.

 

The PS5 better be called the PS5, not some pretentious or weird name like the "PSX", or the "PS Forever", or some other shit.

 

"PlayStation 5" is the obvious logical successor, and the coolest sounding name.



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Yeah, I hope Sony don't follow the pattern of Microsoft.

 

The PS5 better be called the PS5, not some pretentious or weird name like the "PSX", or the "PS Forever", or some other shit.

 

"PlayStation 5" is the obvious logical successor, and the coolest sounding name.

 

PSX is the alias they gave to the PS1.

 

PS Forever would be so cringe though. I wonder if there was actually someone at Sony who at one point decided the PS4 Pro should have been named the PS4-ever.


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It's on the timeline now.

 

https://www.futureti...ry/2020.htm#ps5

 

I looked at the stats for previous consoles, and based on current trends, the PS5 is likely to have around 100GB RAM (!) and over 10 teraFLOPS of computing power!


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It's on the timeline now.

 

https://www.futureti...ry/2020.htm#ps5

 

I looked at the stats for previous consoles, and based on current trends, the PS5 is likely to have around 100GB RAM (!) and over 10 teraFLOPS of computing power!

 

Hmm, I don't know about the RAM part. Maybe they can buy the RAM in bulk, but in general, the price of RAM has tripled over the last few years. The desktops that are on sale today are more expensive and have less RAM than the computer I purchased back in late 2015. I believe it's a supply issue, but whose fault is that? So unless memory prices become more affordable, either they will have to be modest in the RAM upgrade, or the PS5 is going to be an expensive console. 



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^ Interesting about the RAM price trend, I wasn't aware of that. I've changed the entry to "tens of gigabytes", which gives some flexibility for the prediction.


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yeah I thought you were cracking a joke with the 100GB of RAM. We're still at 8 or 16GB in a lot of lappies--including entry level gaming laptops. 32GB will set you back $300, $350+

 

The PS3 and PS4 were both released for sale in November. Far be it from me to speculate on supply chain issues or a ramp up in manufacturing but a November 2019 release shouldn't have more than 16GB if that. It's even hard to imagine a $400 console having more than 16GB for a 2020 rollout. 


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Aren't there massive variations in RAM costs based on speed, (Like DDR3 vs DDR4), which may explain why its suddenly jumped in price?



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Aren't there massive variations in RAM costs based on speed, (Like DDR3 vs DDR4), which may explain why its suddenly jumped in price?

 

It's always varied, but that isn't really a jump in price, because that means they are actually slightly different products. RAM has gotten more expensive, across the board, both in terms of minimums and maximums. In short, you are now paying more for the same product, no matter what it's variation.



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Worth taking into account "diminishing returns" when estimating release dates.

They'll want to launch with the sweet spot $399 again, but for their money customers will expect a big upgrade in graphics again so we're looking at AMD Ryzen and Vega. Costs should be reasonable come 2020.

Also, PS4 sales figures are going up each year so Sony won't want to kill that momentum. PS4 Pro should keep people eager for 4K gaming happy for now.
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I think it's a bit more complicated. If we're talking just the regular PS4, then yes, I agree with 2020. But Sony's just recently come out with the PS4 Pro, essentially giving the console more longevity. And to be fair, I don't think we've seen as significant an upgrade to consoles in previous eras. They've given the console a shot in the arm this time around, which I think is going to give it significantly more shelf life than previous generations. That into account, I see it more as 2022 at the very least. With this upgrade, they've shown they want the PS4 to stick around a little longer.


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8-core Zen CPU and a Navi-based GPU.

 

 



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my short and simple prediction for PlayStation 5:
Q1 2020 Sony special event and Q4 2020 release
499 USD release price
8C16T 4GHz Ryzen CPU + Post-Navi GPU, 7nm EUV lithography
32 GB GDDR6 RAM, 2 TB HDD and 64GB SSD
in practice about 10x faster than 2013 PS4
checkerboard upscaling from 1440p to 2160p
hardware compatibilty with denoising ray-tracing techniques
built from the start with VR in mind
2nd gen PS VR in Q4 2021 - 4K per eye with eye movement tracking
in some games, progress between 2013 and 2020 is going to be very clear, with much more realistic lighting and 4K textures in almost every 3D game, particle effects on a much higher level

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That sounds awesome, but I eagerly await the next gen video games that still somehow manage to look like PS2 titles as well as those games that focus intensely on graphics to the point of looking photorealistic except the developers forgot they were supposed to attach an interactive video game to it so they slap on an utterly bland content.


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Anyone remember the Agni's philosophy tech demo, which made an appearance around E3 2012,  with the more realistic looking hair and skin textures? I would be happy if the PS5 could achieve that in-game. I don't know, maybe you could argue that FFXV was almost there, at least the PC version that just came out last month. Of course, the PS5 would also be capable of producing something like that in 4k.







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