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Does anyone thin it will ever be possible to load knowledge to a huge hard drive like thing where it can be uploading downloaded? This would remove the need for school. I came this idea when looking at the timeline because when I saw the mind uploading prediction, I thought that was what it was talking about. I took a closer look much more recently and realized that that's not true. But I still wonder if knowledge uploading and download will be possible. I've been on TV that we're starting to understand the language of the brain. Personally I hope it's only a decade away.

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We're making first small steps towards brain prosthesis / external memory. Try googling "rat hippocampus implant"
But it's just tiny step, most likely every brain has it's own routine of storing memories, so you couldn't get knowledge from univeral external memory.

There are however other ideas, as stimulation of optical and auditory nerves to "upload" certain data to brain, and this could be universal for all humans. No info on memory uploading in this solution.
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You are talking about different things,mind uploading is a treatment that will use picotechnology to turn your organic brain into a synthetic one,and then transplant it to an android body.It will give you a kind of immortality.

In the future,we will be able to implant chips in our brains that will allow us to learn anything we want in question of microseconds,and the same technology will be used to "talk" telephatically with anyone,no matter how the language they are speaking,because the chip will instantly translate the talk to your natural language(that's what you wanna know-search years 2095 and 2190)

The same interface will have to be used in the far future,when AI will be so powerful that they will make our brains appear like amebas in comparison.Those who will reject these technology will be unable to understand even the day-to-day technologies,and the world will appear "fast","crazy" and "strange" for them(search year 2100).

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You are talking about different things,mind uploading is a treatment that will use picotechnology to turn your organic brain into a synthetic one,and then transplant it to an android body.It will give you a kind of immortality.

In the future,we will be able to implant chips in our brains that will allow us to learn anything we want in question of microseconds,and the same technology will be used to "talk" telephatically with anyone,no matter how the language they are speaking,because the chip will instantly translate the talk to your natural language(that's what you wanna know-search years 2095 and 2190)

The same interface will have to be used in the far future,when AI will be so powerful that they will make our brains appear like amebas in comparison.Those who will reject these technology will be unable to understand even the day-to-day technologies,and the world will appear "fast","crazy" and "strange" for them(search year 2100).


That's it!!! The 2100 section where it says human intelligence is being vastly amplified by AI. So, by that date since the AI that was implanted allows for the ability to download knowledge into the brain, will the need for there to be schools be eliminated? Also, how will our future generations make sure that AI doesn't get out of control? I hope serious biological advances will be made way before 2100 because as far as current lifespans go, I'll be dead by then. :(

Edited by science man, 11 March 2012 - 07:35 AM.


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Oh, I'm sorry I was talking about actual research, not predictions :)
I'd wait with discussion about picotechnology untill we are really good at nanotechnology.
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You are talking about different things,mind uploading is a treatment that will use picotechnology to turn your organic brain into a synthetic one,and then transplant it to an android body.It will give you a kind of immortality.

In the future,we will be able to implant chips in our brains that will allow us to learn anything we want in question of microseconds,and the same technology will be used to "talk" telephatically with anyone,no matter how the language they are speaking,because the chip will instantly translate the talk to your natural language(that's what you wanna know-search years 2095 and 2190)

The same interface will have to be used in the far future,when AI will be so powerful that they will make our brains appear like amebas in comparison.Those who will reject these technology will be unable to understand even the day-to-day technologies,and the world will appear "fast","crazy" and "strange" for them(search year 2100).


That's it!!! The 2100 section where it says human intelligence is being vastly amplified by AI. So, by that date since the AI that was implanted allows for the ability to download knowledge into the brain, will the need for there to be schools be eliminated? Also, how will our future generations make sure that AI doesn't get out of control? I hope serious biological advances will be made way before 2100 because as far as current lifespans go, I'll be dead by then. :(


That's it,schools will be eliminated,as all knowledge will be learned by neural interfaces,that's said in the 2190 post,but I think that is gonna happen very earlier,by 2090,and AI will not get out of control,since these machines won't have emotions or feelings.

And don't be so pessimistic.Human lifespan is increasing.How old are you?In the future you will be able to get telomerase,stem cells and nanobots to partially reverse aging or you will be able to be suspended by biostasis and revive in a far future(see year 2048).

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You are talking about different things,mind uploading is a treatment that will use picotechnology to turn your organic brain into a synthetic one,and then transplant it to an android body.It will give you a kind of immortality.

In the future,we will be able to implant chips in our brains that will allow us to learn anything we want in question of microseconds,and the same technology will be used to "talk" telephatically with anyone,no matter how the language they are speaking,because the chip will instantly translate the talk to your natural language(that's what you wanna know-search years 2095 and 2190)

The same interface will have to be used in the far future,when AI will be so powerful that they will make our brains appear like amebas in comparison.Those who will reject these technology will be unable to understand even the day-to-day technologies,and the world will appear "fast","crazy" and "strange" for them(search year 2100).


That's it!!! The 2100 section where it says human intelligence is being vastly amplified by AI. So, by that date since the AI that was implanted allows for the ability to download knowledge into the brain, will the need for there to be schools be eliminated? Also, how will our future generations make sure that AI doesn't get out of control? I hope serious biological advances will be made way before 2100 because as far as current lifespans go, I'll be dead by then. :(


That's it,schools will be eliminated,as all knowledge will be learned by neural interfaces,that's said in the 2190 post,but I think that is gonna happen very earlier,by 2090,and AI will not get out of control,since these machines won't have emotions or feelings.

And don't be so pessimistic.Human lifespan is increasing.How old are you?In the future you will be able to get telomerase,stem cells and nanobots to partially reverse aging or you will be able to be suspended by biostasis and revive in a far future(see year 2048).


Ok good I hope the aging thing happens by 2048. I should still alove and well by then.

Edited by science man, 12 March 2012 - 12:33 AM.


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FFS do you people have to quote 15 lines of text that would have been over yours anyway, to add one fucking line?
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You are talking about different things,mind uploading is a treatment that will use picotechnology to turn your organic brain into a synthetic one,and then transplant it to an android body.It will give you a kind of immortality.

In the future,we will be able to implant chips in our brains that will allow us to learn anything we want in question of microseconds,and the same technology will be used to "talk" telephatically with anyone,no matter how the language they are speaking,because the chip will instantly translate the talk to your natural language(that's what you wanna know-search years 2095 and 2190)

The same interface will have to be used in the far future,when AI will be so powerful that they will make our brains appear like amebas in comparison.Those who will reject these technology will be unable to understand even the day-to-day technologies,and the world will appear "fast","crazy" and "strange" for them(search year 2100).


That's it!!! The 2100 section where it says human intelligence is being vastly amplified by AI. So, by that date since the AI that was implanted allows for the ability to download knowledge into the brain, will the need for there to be schools be eliminated? Also, how will our future generations make sure that AI doesn't get out of control? I hope serious biological advances will be made way before 2100 because as far as current lifespans go, I'll be dead by then. :(


That's it,schools will be eliminated,as all knowledge will be learned by neural interfaces,that's said in the 2190 post,but I think that is gonna happen very earlier,by 2090,and AI will not get out of control,since these machines won't have emotions or feelings.

And don't be so pessimistic.Human lifespan is increasing.How old are you?In the future you will be able to get telomerase,stem cells and nanobots to partially reverse aging or you will be able to be suspended by biostasis and revive in a far future(see year 2048).


Ok good I hope the aging thing happens by 2048. I should still alove and well by then.


How old are you?I'm 20.

FFS do you people have to quote 15 lines of text that would have been over yours anyway, to add one fucking line?



What's the matter about that?

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That there are dozens fucking useless lines of text. If you're referring to older post that's not RIGHT above yours it makes sense to use quote (especially selective), if you're quoting whole post that's right above yours it's fucking retarded.
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How gross!But I got curious,how old are you,Craven?

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Gross?
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I'm the same age as you CyberMisterBueaty. So do you think we will live long enough to see them reverse the aging process so we can go back to being 20 or even further?

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Yeah,because in 2048 we will be 55-56 years old(my grandmother is almost 90 years old),and before that year some life extension technologies will be available,but if you want go further you will be able to get biostasis and revive 100 years later.But if you are as young am I why are you pessimistic about not being alive before 60 years old,even knowing that medicine will evolve a lot?Do you think you won't live till 60 years old?If you get life extension technology,we will live well after 100,110 years old in my opinion...


I think when aging will be reverseable,it will like turning our cells back to childhood,but having the maturity and hormonal levels of an young adult.In other words,the treatment will remove all cellular junk,repair all DNA imperfection,and get rid of all harmful "wounds" that your cells suffered since you were born(maybe you don't kow,but even breathing ages a person),your cells would have the same "quality" of a child but as is impossible to turn an adult into a child,elderly would be turned into a twenty few years old person,the age when his/her body reached their peak and then started to decline afterwards.

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Yeah,because in 2048 we will be 55-56 years old(my grandmother is almost 90 years old),and before that year some life extension technologies will be available,but if you want go further you will be able to get biostasis and revive 100 years later.But if you are as young am I why are you pessimistic about not being alive before 60 years old,even knowing that medicine will evolve a lot?Do you think you won't live till 60 years old?If you get life extension technology,we will live well after 100,110 years old in my opinion...


I think when aging will be reverseable,it will like turning our cells back to childhood,but having the maturity and hormonal levels of an young adult.In other words,the treatment will remove all cellular junk,repair all DNA imperfection,and get rid of all harmful "wounds" that your cells suffered since you were born(maybe you don't kow,but even breathing ages a person),your cells would have the same "quality" of a child but as is impossible to turn an adult into a child,elderly would be turned into a twenty few years old person,the age when his/her body reached their peak and then started to decline afterwards.


It's not that I don't think I'll be around long enough to see 60. It's that I'm worried about the accuracy of what your saying. That the reverse aging or even stop aging technology will be around by then. I hope you and the timeline are right, but according a personal analysis I did of the timeline's accuracy, ity was right about 50% or so of the time. (I used the WayBackMachine on archive.org) By the way, the reverse aging technology can come out before we die, I think we can be immortal, because every time we aged to a certain we'd kjust the technology over and over again. (unless of course we instantly died in some fatal way)

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If it becomes clear that you are going to die before age reversal is possible, you can always fall back to plan B which is to be cryogenically frozen until it is possible to revive you at a time technology exists to reverse the effects of aging.
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Better take out a plan then...

http://outthere.what...ogen-frozen.htm

Currently $150,000 required for full body, I like the quote at the end:

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CyberMisterBueaty you said that robots won't get out of control because they won't have emotions. One of the six videos starting here says otherwise.

Edited by science man, 20 March 2012 - 04:56 AM.


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eh sorry I don't know how to get it to just be a link. Try to search title on youtube.




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