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2012 vs. 1984: Young adults really do have it harder today


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1980s where fantastic years :drinks: not only Europe had a great economy but also the life style was more simple and more enjoyble for some aspects.
I hope in the future I can download my mind in a 1980s scenario for while. I'd like to go back there for a little bit :-)

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You lived in the 1980 decade?How old are you?Are you older than Wjfox?

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You lived in the 1980 decade?How old are you?Are you older than Wjfox?

Sounds like living in 1980s is being old :(
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For me the eighties was a time of my childhood, and from that perspective it was pretty crappy. Not that my childhood was bad, but we had terrible music dominating the airwaves, terrible fashion dominating the high streets, only 3 channels on the TV, miner's strikes, various wars (including the cold war which was intense in the early eighties) and Margaret Thatcher in power!

The only exception was 1989 when we had the fall of the Berlin War and the end of the cold war, that year was pretty special :)
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I can't even remember the 90s that well. I remember parts of my early childhood there, but not enough to understand what life was like in the 90s.
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I was born in the early 1980s so I was just a child then. I remeber these years to be fantastic actually. There was already a primitive version of internet but compiuters ( AMIGA, Comodor 64) for us meant only videogames and typing letters to be print. Also compiuters were rare in the houses. Families were spending more time togheter in the domestic enviroment, usually in front of the TV or playing some board games in the dining room ( Connect Four and Guess Who? were really popular then).
One of the negative sides of today is that families dont talk much as they used to and thats one of the problems I have with modernity. Even at the bus stops pepole would talk to you while today lots of pepole seems to be reserved on the bus. They use their Ipods or use their cell-phones etc.
In Italy there were lots of groups of young pepole who would usually aggregate in front of a cafè bar or in some public garden while sitting on their scooters and motor-bikes. Thats were friendships and loves used to born. It was romantic and even as a child I used to hang out with this groups. Today in the distrect were I grow up I rarely see these groups of young pepole hanging out togeter.
In my country we had many TV channals that were emerging and new TV programms as well including one strip-poker games that would reach high level of audience late at night.
We had aslo many new cartoons and children programs. Lots of new toys were coming out as well.
However, after 12 night 1 o'clock max, the TV would display an image that meant the end of the TV programms. They were resuming only after 6:50 in the morning.
There was also less stress in general. Economic crise, Terrorism, Globalization were unknown words for many. Europe and America were spending lots of money and doing major investiments. Italy was one of the wealthiest countries in the world and there was high consumism thats one of the reasons were are in big depth today.
Fashion was different. Women would usually wear high heels and had sprayed hair-style while converse shoes and blue jean jackets were popular among guys. Lots of teenagers had always a gum in their mounth lol so I always had some chew-in-gum with me to imitate them.
Turn offs of this decade is that HIV started to emerge. Lots of avertisements were showns on tv to make pepole aware of this virus. I remember one advertisment was so scary lol I even saw it recently on YouTube and it seems that it scared an entire generation of children judging by the comments pepole left on the video lol
Comunism was about to end but there was always an arm wrestling between west and east. I remember they were always talking about that on TV. Rambo came out at that time so even us children knew a little bit what was going on then.
Of course life was harder for some aspects, in many job enviroments we didnt have the technology of today, some streets were dirtier and to cure pepole was a bit harder than it is today for many conditions.
Music was also awsome lol..the greatest songs came out in that time and they still play them on the radio and clubs today..

I hope I brought you back in the years a little bit. but then again as we all come from different enviroments we may all have different opinions about this decade.
I would like to live in the 1980s as an adult at least for some years..

By the way I personlly met WJFOX and he is not old at all LOL :D

Edited by Italian Ufo, 09 May 2012 - 05:21 PM.

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Wjfox is just 33 years old...


I can't even remember the 90s that well. I remember parts of my early childhood there, but not enough to understand what life was like in the 90s.


I was born in 1992,and I remember my infance,I remember my first apartment where I spent my early years(inclusive the Tv was a Philco Itashi(I think don't exist anymore!),it was just 14 inches.

I also remember my first videogame console,it was a Master System III,I only played sonic games of the early 1990.I think that this machine don't exist anymore as well...

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Wjfox is just 33 years old...



I can't even remember the 90s that well. I remember parts of my early childhood there, but not enough to understand what life was like in the 90s.


I was born in 1992,and I remember my infance,I remember my first apartment where I spent my early years(inclusive the Tv was a Philco Itashi(I think don't exist anymore!),it was just 14 inches.

I also remember my first videogame console,it was a Master System III,I only played sonic games of the early 1990.I think that this machine don't exist anymore a
s well...


My first compiuter console was a Sega Master System and it was in 1990. It come out with a soccer game and a ball because they were playin the Football World Cup in 1990. In 1994 I had an IBM and in 1995 I bought a sega-mega Drive lots of Sonic Games but my favourite was Street Fighter II- it was a dream come true to have an arcade version of the game inside of my home. In 1998 I bought the first playstation and in 2004 I bought the playstation 2. In 2010 XBox but I used it only a few times. In fact it is like new.
I still have all these consoles in the basement, one day they may be real antiquies pieces.

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Nice, my dad threw away all my old consoles and games, and controllers. I specifically told him not to. Then he waited until I went asleep and threw away my N64, gamcube and playstation 1.

They were useless apparently. I wanted them because when I'm an old man I can look back on all my old electronics.

Edited by SG-1, 10 May 2012 - 12:15 AM.

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Hell when I was a kid we still had black and white TV where to change the channel you had to actually get up (*faint*) and turn a dial, there weren't even buttons!

As for computers, my first one was a Tandy TRS-80i (http://en.wikipedia....E2.80.931983.29), but I then upgraded to an Amstrad CPC464 (http://en.wikipedia....trad_CPC#CPC464) - maybe showing my age a little there but I remember the old days of loading games from tape! Still have that old box sitting around somewhere in a cupboard gathering dust!

Edited by GNR Rvolution, 10 May 2012 - 10:23 AM.

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I bet some watches are more powerful than that computer in processing speed and RAM.
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  • oh luckly my tvs were already in color. We had one black and white in the kitchen but my parents bought it in the 1970s

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I bet some watches are more powerful than that computer in processing speed and RAM.



How can be possible to a watch have more processing power than a computer?You mean that watchs also have CPUs?

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Source: "It is well known that the sort of digital watch you might get free with a tank of petrol carries within it significantly more computing power than the Apollo mission took to the moon.
Apollo's computer was a tiddler. In 1968, the year before the first moon landing, the most powerful computer in the world was the Cray CDC 6600, which is outperformed by some modern digital watches by 3x. A singing birthday card from the 90s contains more computing power than the planet could muster in the 50s."

Source: "The system used a 10-megahertz clock, but used a four-phase signal, so the system could at times effectively operate at 40 MHz"

So a modern watch would be about 120Mhz
http://vhdlguru.blog...ck-in-vhdl.html < - 100MHz clock for a VCR
http://www.edaboard....read153708.html < - talking about a 170Mhz digital clock

I could look more but its hard to find specs.
I read somewhere that some watches have RAM, makes sense since some have stop watches built in.

Edited by SG-1, 12 May 2012 - 02:40 AM.

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I've been near broke since 16. I do think the best thing to do is look at the fact that we don't live in poverty. Always gotta look at the upside to the situation. 1st world problems aren't really that big of a deal.

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Hell when I was a kid we still had black and white TV where to change the channel you had to actually get up (*faint*) and turn a dial, there weren't even buttons!

As for computers, my first one was a Tandy TRS-80i (http://en.wikipedia....E2.80.931983.29), but I then upgraded to an Amstrad CPC464 (http://en.wikipedia....trad_CPC#CPC464) - maybe showing my age a little there but I remember the old days of loading games from tape! Still have that old box sitting around somewhere in a cupboard gathering dust!


I remember atari pong. Our first computer was an apple 2gs. I required floppy disks to boot up, real floppy disk that were actually floppy not the little hard ones from years later. I remember my first walkman and the mix tapes I made off the radio. The library with it's card catalog for when I needed to do a paper for school.

we had Three channels on TV that we had to get up and change the channel and adjust the reception dial and antena on. We got cable at one point and the cable box had a turning dial on the front for finding one of the 36 channels you wanted to watch.

We had rotary dial phones for many years.

It was all wonders of science when mum got an automatic door opener for the garage where she parked her diesel car. and a grand total of seven batteries were uses in the house for various things.

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my first console was ps2 and i was born in 1998

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Started with NES. I was a champ of Super Nintendo. Everyone always has a game that nobody knows better than them and mine is tetris attack.

Edited by MoPawnch, 02 July 2012 - 03:11 AM.


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My "game" was Monster Hunter.

Other than that, I never played games very much. My parents always put a short limit to how long I could use any electronic device, so I was always outside.
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