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First Robotic transpant-surgery in Sicily/ Italy
#1
Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:25 AM
"No matter how hard the past, you can always begin again."
#2
Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:13 PM
Do you believe that human surgeons will "disappear" in the future? Are robots going to do all surgery work then?
It's hard to imagine nowadays, but if they can work more efficiently than human surgeons, it's definitely worth a thought. I think it's fairly probable, them being more effective than we are... But there'll still be surgeons, just that they will be there to see what the robotics are doing. I cannot give a time estimate, although it doesn't seem too distant in the future, given the contemporary developments. (e.g. the article mentioned above)
One comment about this recent procedure:
Kudos to the donor for letting advancement happen. I don't know a lot of people (as a matter of fact, none) who would have agreed to this kind of procedure out of fear of being mistreated or damaged by the robot.
Edited by Lily, 26 June 2012 - 01:15 PM.
"All scientific advancement due to intellegence overcoming, compensating, for limitations. Can't carry a load, so invent wheel. Can't catch food, so invent spear. Limitations. No limitations, no advancement. No advancement, culture stagnates. Works other way too. Advancement before culture is ready. Disastrous."
There's definitely truth in that...
#3
Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:08 AM
Now this is news!
Do you believe that human surgeons will "disappear" in the future? Are robots going to do all surgery work then?
It's hard to imagine nowadays, but if they can work more efficiently than human surgeons, it's definitely worth a thought. I think it's fairly probable, them being more effective than we are... But there'll still be surgeons, just that they will be there to see what the robotics are doing. I cannot give a time estimate, although it doesn't seem too distant in the future, given the contemporary developments. (e.g. the article mentioned above)
One comment about this recent procedure:
Kudos to the donor for letting advancement happen. I don't know a lot of people (as a matter of fact, none) who would have agreed to this kind of procedure out of fear of being mistreated or damaged by the robot.
Lily, have you seen the TV series called 2057 on Discovery Science? There is Dr. Michio Kaku in the show and He addresses your same questions about the employment of surgeons in the future.
What I can answer for my modest pareer is that for about 100 years and even more we will still need doctors to direct medical machines and robots. The hands of these surgical machines will be much more precise and outcome of the surgeries will significally improve. However, while the work of surgeons will soon be reduced, they will still need to be in the operating room for many years to come.
But one day surgeries will become "a simple walk" and doctors will no longer be required during the operation process.
First, one of the immediate scenarios I can see in about 10 years is the increase of home tools able to detect diseases and injuries. So no more need to fix apointments to get MRIs and CT scans. Moreover some of these tools will even be in our bodies (For exemple at the Arthties center of Arizona they will start to put microchips on the knee cartilage in about 4 years. These chips will be able to connect to a regular home laptop and will tell the amount of tissue that is remaing until the bone is exposed. The test can be done at anytime, even after a single tennis match). Than, I predict that around the middle of next century we will start to have surgeries from home for many common pathologies. You simply inject nanobots which are guided under the direction of compiuter machine which has the intelligence of all the medical docotrs of the world. In few hours the injuried part of your body will be fixed by these nanobots. First they will start to treat simple problems and than they will start to fix bigger and more delicated issue. Furthermore, In the houses of the future we will have also machine where we will produce our own stem cells and maybe even genes . These machines will be the size of our microwaves just like Platlet Rich Plasma Machines today. So these cells can also be used by the nanobots to repair tissues.
In conclusion, In my opinion hospitals will become obsolate in the future.
.P.S Sorry if I have replied just now but I didnt see your reply until minutes ago,
Here is the Youtube link for you of 2057. It talks about an heart surgery. You ll find it very intresting if you didnt see it before. Trust me is pretty accurate and it also talks about contemporary reserch on tissue fabriquation.

Platlet Rich Plasma Machine
Edited by Italian Ufo, 04 July 2012 - 07:33 AM.
"No matter how hard the past, you can always begin again."
#4
Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:13 AM
"No matter how hard the past, you can always begin again."
#5
Posted 07 July 2012 - 07:36 PM
A lot of people could have a problem with accepting this, I guess. After all, it's something that sound just so far away and technical and futuristic you could almost think it's fiction. I think there's a lot of work that needs to be done before people accept this kind of stuff.
"All scientific advancement due to intellegence overcoming, compensating, for limitations. Can't carry a load, so invent wheel. Can't catch food, so invent spear. Limitations. No limitations, no advancement. No advancement, culture stagnates. Works other way too. Advancement before culture is ready. Disastrous."
There's definitely truth in that...
#6
Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:48 AM
It seems to me that a lot of jobs will become obsolete in the years to come. I wonder what most people will do? Not everybody can be an engineer or scientist for a living, can they? While it is fascinating and exciting to think about the possibilities of the future, it is also important to think about possible problems arising.
A lot of people could have a problem with accepting this, I guess. After all, it's something that sound just so far away and technical and futuristic you could almost think it's fiction. I think there's a lot of work that needs to be done before people accept this kind of stuff.
This is going to be one of the biggest problems we as humanity encounter. Shifting from the idea of a single job source of income to pay for everything in our lives, to having certain things that you don't have to pay for and the money you earn for the things you do pay for might be based on consulting work credits and community exchange credits for work in your community.
In essence it won't be much different than everybody becoming something like a feudal lord. You have stewards (AI, or VR programs to remote manage) to oversee the serfs (machines and robotic systems) You meet with other lords and arrange trade of goods produced by the serfs to achieve the most self sustainable realm you can. You probably won't engage in much demanding labor. But you will not lack for things to do.
Aside from the basic nessecities people will want accesories and designs created by people. They will also consume created content. and advances in science and tech will continue to hold people interests.
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