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[CyberMisterBeauty]

I'm thinking how dating and marrieage will be in the far future,when most people have achieved immortality and beauty and sensuality will be available for everyone and will be very easy to achieve.

For exemple,if most people are immortal and very beautiful,a person would meet another person and get in love,and as they are immortal,they could live together forever without the fear of getting old.But do you think marriage of long time like in the past will come back in the future?In my opinion,due to change in society and this reason I mentionated,maybe.I think immortality will have such impact on people's lives that this can be a possibility.Imagine if you are immortal and don't age,and you feel attracted/get in love with someone,and you think:"If we are immortal and share similar personality/tastes/interests,we could live together for a long time without the fear of losing the interests for each other.

On the other hand,I think the betrayal of dating and marriage will be an even greater problem than it's today,because of immortality and realizing that beauty and sensuality could be achieved by everyone,with so many attractive people,the chances of a betrayal and dating another person will be much greater.What do you think?

However,I don't know why,but according to many researches,there is a tendency of more and more people being single in the future.The stabilization of the world population could cause this.Well,it's already happening...

[hellgorama]

IMO dating and marriage will seize to exist completely. It'll simply be friends with benefits. Man and woman meetup, chat together get to know about each other a little bit, then if both are in the mood (or if the man buys her a little present to entice her), they go to a room, fuck and then they go their merry way. The whole "love" thing is completely fake (google search "briffault's law"), and it'll be better off to not have long-term relationships.

[wjfox]

If people are immortal, and married together for hundreds (or even thousands) of years, they will gradually become bored of each other. Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan has a great story about this.

In the far future, genders themselves may be obsolete and a new third sex could emerge, a kind of "asexual" human.

[Raklian]

Divorce rates will not longer exist.

That's because we'll stop marrying each other long after.

Of course, this is speculation.

[CyberMisterBeauty]

If people are immortal, and married together for hundreds (or even thousands) of years, they will gradually become bored of each other. Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan has a great story about this.

In the far future, genders themselves may be obsolete and a new third sex could emerge, a kind of "asexual" human.

What??Genders will dessapear??A third sex will emerge,an asexual person?Jesus,what on Earth are you talking about??

[wjfox]

Males and females could still exist. But there'll be an option to go asexual - for people who don't like the problems associated with reproduction etc. and/or don't identify with either sex. A bit like transgender people today. They'd be a minority, of course (at least to begin with - in the very far future, genders may truly become obsolete as we become totally machine-like). This is hardly a new idea, and is mentioned in science fiction quite a lot.

[hellgorama]

Males and females could still exist. But there'll be an option to go asexual - for people who don't like the problems associated with reproduction etc. and/or don't identify with either sex. A bit like transgender people today. They'd be a minority, of course (at least to begin with - in the very far future, genders may truly become obsolete as we become totally machine-like). This is hardly a new idea, and is mentioned in science fiction quite a lot.

Yea I look forward to this. I'm sick and tired of this gender war that's going on between women/feminism and the men. In fact I fantasize of having my consciousness digitized and then uploaded to a human sized mech armour suit that has its supercomputer billions of times more powerful than the human brain (has built in AI as a sidekick), along with really cool gadgets and powerful armour and shielding and energy core etc etc.

[EVanimations]

With immortality and without religion, the furthest people would take a relationship is living together and doing the wild thing every night, and sometimes right after lunch. Since a core principle of marriage is that two people love and support each other throughout their lives, it'll probably be done away with. You don't want to live and support the same person for all eternity, as there will be a 100% chance, statistically speaking, that you will grow to resent them and divorce them eventually.
Since this could potentially harm many people, the principles of marriage would be done away with for good.

Personally I could only stand loving and supporting the same person for a normal human lifetime, best case scenario.

[Italian Ufo]

just one word--->Polyamory

[hellgorama]

With immortality and without religion, the furthest people would take a relationship is living together and doing the wild thing every night, and sometimes right after lunch. Since a core principle of marriage is that two people love and support each other throughout their lives, it'll probably be done away with. You don't want to live and support the same person for all eternity, as there will be a 100% chance, statistically speaking, that you will grow to resent them and divorce them eventually.
Since this could potentially harm many people, the principles of marriage would be done away with for good.

Personally I could only stand loving and supporting the same person for a normal human lifetime, best case scenario.

Depends on what you mean by supporting. If you mean financially then yes - no-one should have to support their SO financially indefinitely. If you mean emotionally and spiritually, then I'd say I could keep going a few decades more than a lifetime provided the person I'm supporting starts to becoming more emotionally independant gradually until they no longer rely on me. The point I'm trying to make is it'll depend on the person, how much support he/she will need and what kind of support as well.

[MarcusAurelius]

I would go a step further than anyone else here and say that in a future where immortality is commonplace, truly immersive VR and AI is ubiquitous in everyday living... then the motivations for family or pair bonding will be miniscule. And I don't mean just at marriage, but at dating as well. When you look at kids of today you see them take many of the technologies of iphones, ipads, fast internet and social media sites as a given and even to the point of apathy. Back in the 80s kids would of felt like they were in a wonderland if those things were available. But for those growing up in the 21st century, its hardly noteworthy anymore. They hop onto a social media site or look at limitless porn online, or cybersexchat through webcam for instant gratification.

In the future this power will be a million fold, we will have photorealistic VR, and AI that can rival any real partner where conversations are concerned. The kids of the future will be so spoiled by this technology that they will seem intolerant of people in general in favor of AI avatars that can cater to their every whim. You think its bad now that you have kids with 0 attention spans and dysfunctional dispositions. In the future we will have whole societies of self entitled spoilt youths who think of themselves as the little emperors and empresses of the future. All with the power of a million of todays supercomputers at their fingertips to simulate any whim or desire in a heartbeat or before you can even bat an eye. The impact of these conveniences on society are unfathomable to us today. We have grown up in a relatively normal era where people are still communicating largely with each other, and where dating and marriage is seen as a normal part of life. In the future things won't be so traditional anymore, human to AI or VR communication will rise exponentially. Expectations about sex or relationships between humans will become greatly challenged or may become completely obsolescete. But at least our world population problem might steadily diminish soon after this reality becomes everyday in society.

[SG-1]

I would hope that whoever I marry wouldn't be a sex doll. Or that she would get bored of me after 80 years.

Is that to much to ask? Maybe, or maybe not.

Marriage may become a friendship, I would love to be friends with someone forever and if VR allows us to.. why not? Right now that seems crazy and I wouldn't like it, but after living your life so long, maybe you would get tired of being chained to one experience.

Edited by SG-1, 31 July 2012 - 09:15 PM.

[stevo]

Humans need love. love makes people happy. otherwise, we just become cold hearted nazi's who only care about ourselves

[Shimmy]

Love is eternal, money and power are not. The singularity will come and go but love will persist. When man turns against himself in a global holocaust it won't be technology that saves us from extinction it will be love. My love and your love, together. I love you

[Logically Irrational]

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

[EVanimations]

Humans need love. love makes people happy. otherwise, we just become cold hearted nazi's who only care about ourselves

If you're afraid of losing all emotion and becoming a cold, unloving machine, that's perfectly reasonable. But oftentimes I feel like a slave to negative emotions.

Maybe in the future they could find a way to isolate negative emotions (anger, hatred, depression, heartache, loneliness) and install programs to dull them. We can become fully logical entities that still know love and happiness, but unclouded by petty hatred.

But if you don't want to embrace certain changes to your psyche, you're going to despise the world that comes, my friend...

[MarcusAurelius]

I actually wonder if there does come a time when human to human relationships are overtaken by selfish human to machine relationships or VR fantasy role playing taking precedence over real relationships, will there be any ethics committee feeling the need to preside over such a new found social phenomenon. I wonder if there will be a split in society between those traditionalists and those who prefer or embrace the new technology for its own merits and conveniences. And if outnumbered will there be social stigmas or pressures to conform grow over time?

[SG-1]

I don't think anyone would stay a traditionalist or a conformist. I think they would switch back and forth. Both have advantages and if you live long enough, you would get bored. Marriages will still exist, if you get bored with each other, why not change your bodies?

I would hate to be single for ever, marriages where you live hundreds of years and are able to repress negative emotions, be happier, change bodies in both physical and virtual worlds. Yeah, its not going to get boring for a loong time. You would also probably not live forever. You will eventually die. By some horrible accident or entropy. It is inevitable.

[Roh234]

I'm a dude, and here is my perspective....

*Warning mature language*

People have been saying from ages that *insert anything here* will eliminate relationships. First it was suggesting figures and that the beauties will distract men from their wives which will lead to broken marriages. Then it was porn magazines and videos. Today the argument is prostitution and soon robot prostitutes.

But marriages will not be an outdated practice....

If I just want sex, I'd hire a prostitute and fap. It is much easier than trying to find a partner. But today men go out of their way to impress women and women (I think) go out of their way to impress men. The feeling of love and attachment cannot be substituted. Just like virtual reality, it may seem cool but its not the real thing.

As Will some asexuals will opt for a third gender. The universe is vast with a possibility of a multiverse/ ommniverse, I definitely want to share my experience SO. The feeling with a SO , that heard, is different from hanging out with regular friends or fucking a prostitute.

[MarcusAurelius]

I don't want to sound like the alarmist here, but I think people are seriously underestimating the repercussions of such a technology and what it will bring.

When people get into relationships they often have very singular motives to doing so. Some may argue women are more benevolent in these pursuits than men, who may largely be driven by attraction and the prospects of fulfilling sex with their hearts desire. But more often than not people are quite lousy at choosing their compatible partner. This is because most of us try to be more than accomodating to the other persons personality conflicts, which sometimes results in marriages that shouldn't have taken place at all. All in the name of love and companionship. People even pride themselves many years later on their ability to shut off conflict and stay in unhealthy relationships that are neither fulfilling or realistically sustainable. Alot of abusive relationships survive for a multitude of reasons, some being low self esteem of one in the relationship, to general apathy and selfishness from the other.

Fast forward 20-30 years and strong AI to a VR world or in shape of a robot will truly change the dating arena. People here keep referring AI and VR as maybe an alternative to real sex, but I go further in my predictions that it will be seen more as a complete alternative to companionship. Companionship and relationships may even be redefined as a therapeutic or psychological necessity. In much the same way sport and keeping the mind active by learning new hobbies or mental activities is seen today. In a future world where children will be brought up on technology that will seem fantastical to us, who will be able to say the selfish human desire to model perfection onto a partner won't only be a bigger tendency in the future, but a realistic possibility when an AI completely tailored to our needs becomes a reality.

The future is near.

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