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Feminism, Capatalism and the socio-economic effects of the Advent of VR


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Pretentious title? I was going for eye catching :cool:

 

Here is what I think is going to happen. I am confused when people talk about "money" in the future. I highly doubt the same concept of money will exist in a century, as it does now. Money is there to facilitate the transactions of goods and services, e.g. I pay money to my electrician to fix my lighting. I pay money to Apple to buy their new ipod. Currently we NEED money, there is no going around that.

 

But...Skip a century in the future and the picture is likely to change. Once 3D printing becomes more advanced in a decade or so, you will likley see the stirrings of a change. Money will become less important, once we dont need it to get what we want. Yet it will still be needed because even in a few decades we wont be self-sufficient.

 

Now skip to the mid 22nd Century, long after the supposed singularity. By this time I fully expect (and I am sure that at this late a stage, all of you will agree) that humans will be intimately linked to machines. When that happens we wont need engineers, computer developers or AI scientists, becasue thanks to our greatly enhanced intellect we will be able to be all of these things ourselves. Specialisation will be gone . We will be able to upgrade ourselves with no help from anyone else. Money will be gone. Capitalism will be dead.

 

Now you might say interesting argument O'Neil, but what the heck does this have to do with feminism and VR? EVERYTHING.

 

Once Virtual Reality hits, the world will change. And it will change drastically. The governments of the world will try to impose laws on VR, but it will not work. Not when the entire population wants it. There are arguments now about the violence of videogames, and VR will amplify that 100 fold. I dont think I need to explain why. But like a drug that the entire population is addicted to, laws trying to restrict it wil not work. Those kinds of laws only work when the public supports them, and VR is far too enticing for that to happen.

 

What does this have to do with feminism? I believe feminism is a disease, an ofshoot of the once noble goal of equality for women. But is represents somthing far more sinister about our society. It has peremeated our entire society, which is now full of double standards. Women want to be equal to men, but they want a special type of equality. Men are expected to pay the bills on a first date. Why? Because it is the girl who is wasting her time to go out with the man. The man's time is not considered. This is not womens fault, but more a statement on how our society is skewed.

 

Once VR comes along, gender relations will be changed. Men wont need to put up with women's crap and women wont need to put up with men's crap (it goes both ways). How will that change society. Well lets discuss...

 

To recap, because I fear I may have rambled: let me connect the dots here...

 

The advent of VR is likely to change gender relations and significantly downplay the importance of money. When you can drive a ferrari in VR, who cares what you drive in real life? But money will still be needed, because people still will need money in real life.

Que further in time, when we are intimately linked with machines, and dissapearance of specialisation really destroys the entire concept of money. The entire human society reknits itself along these new principles.

 

Up until VR, the double standard of society was still going strong, but such a sudden shift sparks a huge amount of protests, especially from feminists, many who complain of the "degrading" things done to women in these virtual environments, completely ignoring what the women get up to with virtual men in VR. In other words the double standard still perists...except no one cares anymore. VR means that they dont have to care.

 

The dissapearance of money altogether marks the end of gender relations. By this stage I dont even expect many transhumans to identify themselves as man or woman. Rather I am me, and you are you.

 

What do you think of my argument? Think I'm Jesus? Think I'm on crack? Tell me!

 

 

 


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NICE title! i am over sick in bed but once i feel better i will reply to it



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Couldn't agree more. But feminists will think twice before protesting: MRA groups are gaining popularity everywhere. Recent U of T protest that fembots had against a lecture talking about boys have done alot to expose what feminism truly is: gynocentrism and female supremacy movement (feminazism?). avoiceformen dot com posted it on youtube. You can see it in their site. Both men AND WOMEN are now coming out against feminism. Times are changing. By the time full immersion VR makes its debut I think feminism would have lost the control of the gender narrative. Men will have their own contraceptive pill (without having to use condoms to diminsh their own sexual experience), gov'ts will find that more and more men are losing interest in propping up an economy that reduces them into slaves. WIth women not interested in heavy strenuous work required to keep civilization going, countries will face economic collapse. There will be a period of oppressive control measures and censorship of the internet as a last ditch effort but it wont work.



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Couldn't agree more. But feminists will think twice before protesting: MRA groups are gaining popularity everywhere. Recent U of T protest that fembots had against a lecture talking about boys have done alot to expose what feminism truly is: gynocentrism and female supremacy movement (feminazism?). avoiceformen dot com posted it on youtube. You can see it in their site. Both men AND WOMEN are now coming out against feminism. Times are changing. By the time full immersion VR makes its debut I think feminism would have lost the control of the gender narrative. Men will have their own contraceptive pill (without having to use condoms to diminsh their own sexual experience), gov'ts will find that more and more men are losing interest in propping up an economy that reduces them into slaves. WIth women not interested in heavy strenuous work required to keep civilization going, countries will face economic collapse. There will be a period of oppressive control measures and censorship of the internet as a last ditch effort but it wont work.

 

Interesting, but could you clarify what you mean regarding heavy strenuous work? In my opinion women's lack of interest in that field stems from their lower physical strength, and in any case I believe in 30-40yrs we'll have robots coming onto the scene.

 

I kinda want feminism to be strong when VR comes about....the bigger they are the harder they fall ;)


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In 2050 for sure you wont see absurd websites like this..

 

http://www.sugardaddytoday.com/

 

http://www.whatsyourprice.com/

 

http://www.wealthymen.com/

 

Women are hypergamous, they "love" for economic/social power - fact! This emotional, social, economic, sexual objectification of men by women must stop. The fact that when two go on a date just the man has to pay has to stop! until the objectification of men will be carried on, there will always be dissent.

Virtual reality for sure will help to broke this vicious circle, but I dont see this happening before 2050. In 2030 we may have some VR but it wont be very accurate.

The real exodus will be around 50s and 60s then virtual reality will be almost  real. But in terms of graphic and senses.

However, it will be very expensive at first.

 

I already see a fictional website called electra.com where they expose all these beautiful virtual women. Each of them will cost like a car 10.000 20.000 dollars of today.

They will explain the benefits of such investiment. These virtual women can also modify their personality according to your tastes and upgrade themself.

 

Only in the 2080s I will see prices go drastically down in VR. Thats where men will start to be free from women s game.

 

But what man can do for now?

So, should males refrain from driving flashy cars? Should men refrain from displaying symbols of economic status because it is a manipulate tease and exertion of sexual power over females?" -

yes, I do think so, primarily because it is this obsession with "performance" and accumulating the success symbols that keeps men bounded in the externalised toxicity of economic/power objectification and destroys their capacity for connection with their own emotions and capacity to to express these emotions in multifarious forms except powerless anger and vacuous monetary affluence. If men stop to invest in the externalised symbols of socio-economic power the entire exploitative cycle grinds to halt; most of the men who "fall in love" on a smile, or a voice or face or her being nice will start to understand what they really want from relationships and how most of the women are incapable of fulfilling it. This will not only help men to grow out of their own gender binds but will force women to face the nefariousness and increasing futility of their sexual power games.
 
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A lot to say on this subject and on male/female relations in general but I'll try and keep it brief.

 

I think that biologically men and women are capable of thinking exactly like one another, and that the gap between the genders is caused by 2 things.

 

Hormones/Puberty: (I think this is what kicked it off to begin with)

Making teenage guys horny and volatile, while making their female counterparts become less emotionally stable and letting them grow boobs.

In modern society these also happen to kick into action at probably the worst time, when entering highschool and being met with a whole range of new responsibilities and people your age. The guys tend to play predator and the girls are the prey, which in my eyes is a definite advantage and a lot of girls will learn to play up to it in their teens.

 

Environment: Thousands of years of reinforced ideas of what it is to be a man, or a woman. You get it from every angle, tv, books, comics, movies, music.

 

We can already see the society blurring the lines a bit, men and women can get away more and more with displaying opposite traits, I think this will continue and by the time we have full VR we'll already be approaching a more likeminded ideal, but the ability to create and utilise a member of the opposing sex in a virtual world will certainly be the nail in the coffin I'd think.



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I already see a fictional website called electra.com where they expose all these beautiful virtual women. Each of them will cost like a car 10.000 20.000 dollars of today.

They will explain the benefits of such investiment. These virtual women can also modify their personality according to your tastes and upgrade themself.

 

Virtual women for 10-20K? Ha! That'll be awful if it is the case. but I think it will be free. By 2080, I doubt we will have to buy AI women. We will probably be able to download it for free like mods for today. Or make them ourselves! WHo knows what merging with machines will do for us!

 

Plus I dont think VR will ever be very expensive. It will be like the cost of the Xbox and PS3 today.

 

It will have been in development for a long time. For example if you had described a game like Skyrim to someone in 1980, they certainly would have said it would be highly expensive. Cut to now and its only £40

 

Same with VR, we already have stuff coming out like O. Rift. It will keep getting more advanced until we hit full immersion, around 2050.

 

Unfortunately most men (especially ones in power) actually sympathize with feminism, because its seen as standing up for women's rights. We're getting to the stage where the President of America applauded new that more girls were getting into college than boys, and that the numbers were increasing.

 

Similarly in the Uk, Gove (Minister of Education) recently changed A-levels so that they were more based on exams than coursework (because we all know that its easy to cheat on coursework-makes sense right?). There was "outrage" by teachers that this new system disadvantaged girls, since girls did less well on exams. They completely ignored the fact that for the last 24 years the system based on coursework had favoured girls and disadvantaged boys. Yet no one seemed to care.

 

The double standard of the society we live in is sickening.

 

A lot to say on this subject and on male/female relations in general but I'll try and keep it brief.

 

If you have a lot to say, then by all means. I for one want to hear them. I like your posts.

 

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What can I say... I hope so...

 

now...the thing about price...I went on second life several times and  I visited adult islands. There was an offer where once could have sex with a virtual lady for about 5 dollars for 1 hour. The sick part it was that there were lots of people willing to pay for it.

This is the reason i believe prices will be expensive first...but eventually will collapse soon.

But yes maybe i exagerated a bit to say about 2080.

 

By the way I can see a commercial like this..

 

Posted Image

 

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]Her name is Deluxia, a very advance artificial intelligence, the woman that you can t find in life.[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]She will be your Geisha, submisive, she will take you in the skies making you expereince the highest pleasure you never experienced in your life.[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]She will also produce pleasure that real life you can produce.[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]Deluxia she is not just sex.. do you fell alone one night? You can talk with her about anything, science, sport, movies, art, literature.[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]Deluxia has been created by the best VR programmer in this world..[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]and imagine you cant have this not just for one night but for unlimeted time..[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]Only this month 5.000  Euros for life! [/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]FAQ[/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]What if I am not satisfied? [/color]

You will recieve  90% of your money back if you return her within 1 week

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Why a virtual woman over a real woman?[/color]

 

The answer is simple. Deluxia will make you much happier then a real woman. She will also be your friend and capable to understand your problems better that a real woman. She will also offer unprotected sex, imagine to try the most intense sex without the risk to getting a woman  pregnant or to get trasmitted any disease.

Also she is very hygenic and poor. She is a woman who never had penetration, never mensturations. You will never find such a woman in this world.

 

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Am I doing any harm to society by buying a virtual woman? [/color]

 

In 2050 prostitution is still a major issue. The trafficking of women and men still takes place in the poor areas of the world. By buying a virtual reality woman, you contribute to make the prices of this technology to go down therefore to reduce crime and exploitation. So you are actully doing something good. When everyone will have a virtual sexual partner there will be no need of human prostitution.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]What happens to real relationship?[/color]

 

To buy a virtual woman will not affect your relationship on your partner. it will avoid cheating, teach couple open mindeness and real distress.

Still one can have a real woman and a virtual woman. The possibility of virtual woman dosent preclude a real relationship with a real woman.

In order to dont be addicted just to virtual women contact your doctor in order to manage well virtual reality and reality.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]This is my first time. I am not sure VR is for me.[/color]

 

You can try our 3 days trial for 300 Euros after that you can choose to discard Deluxia or buy her.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Can Deluxia be upgraded?[/color]

Yes and she can specialize in something you want.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Where me and Deluxia can go on a date?[/color]

 

We created 4 virtual room where you can spend time with Deluxia, If you want to visit other places, please visit our travel agency room. Scenarios start for 100 dollars for 1 week.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Is it Deluxia good for our health?[/color]

 

A recent study of the Department of Psychology of the University of Wisconsin demonstrated that both men and women who have have sex with a VR person improve in happiness, productivity, creativity and work performance.

 

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Are there any risk associated with this technology?[/color]

 

Despite risks associated with VR are very small, please consult your doctor and discuss with him or her about the possible effects of VR.

 

ETC.....

 

 

what do you guys think?


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Just back from wrestling with some dirty blonde bitch, just came up to me and started barking, expecting me to take care of her. Nah I love my dog.

 

I know what you're saying about the old cliches that should no longer be true in a supposedly "equal" society, but I think (I hope) people, guys especially are catching on to this, most of my friends are mindful of being "beta" or trading their dignity at a chance of some female action. There's a certain logic to the inviter paying for the invitee when it comes to dinner dates etc, but at the same time men by a vast majority are the ones that are expected to and do initiate these dates. My girlfriend and I tend to share things pretty evenly, sometimes I pay more frequently because she drives more, but I think we're the lucky minority in that regard.

 

It must sound bitter or misogynistic, but I do think it's really common for women to hold true to a lot of these negative stereotypes. I'm probably not exposed to a very accurate demographic of women because I have few female friends (Is that the cause or result of my point of view?) but things like vanity and dependence are common in the girls I know. There is always a slight buzz when at parties or in bars when someone gets the interest of a group of girls but it always ends up the same way, half the guys bend the knee in a bid to get into their pants and the other half realise what they expect and leave the table.

 

An example that's close to home.

My dad makes about 70-80% of the money that goes into my parents household, he works about 20 hours more than my mum.

But at the same time equality demands that they share in household tasks and responsibilities, infact he is burdened with all of that plus any and all "Man" jobs like DIY.

It makes me really angry at times, he'll come home, she'll suggest a room be done up and the extent of her "help" will stretch to picking out the paint colour.

He doesn't receive much in return, now in their 50's sex is no longer a draw (I won't dwell too long on that thought), so in a way it's a completely unequal relationship.

 

You could argue that in an these circumstances people just shouldn't stand for it, put their foot down. But doing that get's a fairly shocked reaction, you're liable to be called cheap, lazy, selfish etc. None of which makes any sense when you think about it.

 

I think it's pretty obvious that most of these feminist nutjobs are just unintelligent women who are bitter at the male populace for one reason or another or in the case of students, just rebels without a cause. All that being said, I wouldn't want to associate myself with some sort of reverse feminism, I think playing victim over fairly small things is a bit embarrassing. But maybe that's just my prideful male traits talking.

 

Just keep calm and don't give in to double standards, if I get married there will be separate bank accounts because I'm romantic that way.


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what do you guys think?

 

Haha!

 

Weighing up how much money I would spend for something like this, it could be kind of hollow outside sex since she's programmed to like you (Sort of like an escort but with no boundaries). Maybe they could knock the price down with some virtual product placement, call her Durexia instead?

 

VR 2080

 

[color=#add8e6;]"Hey babe, I've had a really long day, howabout we jump into the jacuzzi and have some fun?"[/color]

[color=#ffa07a;]"Sounds great Rkw! But first just let me grab us a couple of cool VR Coca-Cola®, [/color][color=rgb(255,160,122);]the tastiest virtual beverage on the market!"[/color]

 - Cut to midway through sex -

[color=#ffa07a;]"Oh Rkw! You're so good! I'm enjoying this almost as much as I enjoy flying in my new google hoverca--"[/color]

 - Power Off, straight to bed -


Edited by Rkw, 11 April 2013 - 06:04 PM.


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Just keep calm and don't give in to double standards, if I get married there will be separate bank accounts because I'm romantic that way.

 

 

Yes I will do that too ...Rkw What are you saying are holy words. I can read myself through your words. I am also very tired of this stupid courting ritual that dictates that  men have  to carpet themself to recieve the attention of a woman. I am also tired of women making fun of men who approch them at parties or clubs. I even seen women bullying some men and exploiting them. I am also sick and tired of ladies nights, pussy pass in clubs, and women who

provokate you in clubs and then call for rape. it is sick. this must end.


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An example that's close to home.

My dad makes about 70-80% of the money that goes into my parents household, he works about 20 hours more than my mum.

But at the same time equality demands that they share in household tasks and responsibilities, infact he is burdened with all of that plus any and all "Man" jobs like DIY.

It makes me really angry at times, he'll come home, she'll suggest a room be done up and the extent of her "help" will stretch to picking out the paint colour.

He doesn't receive much in return, now in their 50's sex is no longer a draw (I won't dwell too long on that thought), so in a way it's a completely unequal relationship.

 

In my family it's kinda the opposite, my dad brings all the money in, (he owns the company) but my mum works for his company as an accountant, works just as many hours as he does and then has to come home clean the house pick up my brother from school and make sure he does his homework, whilst my dad watches TV.

 

I suppose its justified in that he brings in the money and funds our lifestyle but...I don't know...

 

 

What can I say... I hope so...

 

now...the thing about price...I went on second life several times and  I visited adult islands. There was an offer where once could have sex with a virtual lady for about 5 dollars for 1 hour. The sick part it was that there were lots of people willing to pay for it.

This is the reason i believe prices will be expensive first...but eventually will collapse soon.

But yes maybe i exagerated a bit to say about 2080.

 

By the way I can see a commercial like this..

 

Posted Image

 

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]Her name is Deluxia, a very advance artificial intelligence, the woman that you can t find in life.[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]She will be your Geisha, submisive, she will take you in the skies making you expereince the highest pleasure you never experienced in your life.[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]She will also produce pleasure that real life you can produce.[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]Deluxia she is not just sex.. do you fell alone one night? You can talk with her about anything, science, sport, movies, art, literature.[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]Deluxia has been created by the best VR programmer in this world..[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]and imagine you cant have this not just for one night but for unlimeted time..[/color]

[color=rgb(0,255,255);]Only this month 5.000  Euros for life! [/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]FAQ[/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]What if I am not satisfied? [/color]

You will recieve  90% of your money back if you return her within 1 week

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Why a virtual woman over a real woman?[/color]

 

The answer is simple. Deluxia will make you much happier then a real woman. She will also be your friend and capable to understand your problems better that a real woman. She will also offer unprotected sex, imagine to try the most intense sex without the risk to getting a woman  pregnant or to get trasmitted any disease.

Also she is very hygenic and poor. She is a woman who never had penetration, never mensturations. You will never find such a woman in this world.

 

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Am I doing any harm to society by buying a virtual woman? [/color]

 

In 2050 prostitution is still a major issue. The trafficking of women and men still takes place in the poor areas of the world. By buying a virtual reality woman, you contribute to make the prices of this technology to go down therefore to reduce crime and exploitation. So you are actully doing something good. When everyone will have a virtual sexual partner there will be no need of human prostitution.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]What happens to real relationship?[/color]

 

To buy a virtual woman will not affect your relationship on your partner. it will avoid cheating, teach couple open mindeness and real distress.

Still one can have a real woman and a virtual woman. The possibility of virtual woman dosent preclude a real relationship with a real woman.

In order to dont be addicted just to virtual women contact your doctor in order to manage well virtual reality and reality.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]This is my first time. I am not sure VR is for me.[/color]

 

You can try our 3 days trial for 300 Euros after that you can choose to discard Deluxia or buy her.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Can Deluxia be upgraded?[/color]

Yes and she can specialize in something you want.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Where me and Deluxia can go on a date?[/color]

 

We created 4 virtual room where you can spend time with Deluxia, If you want to visit other places, please visit our travel agency room. Scenarios start for 100 dollars for 1 week.

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Is it Deluxia good for our health?[/color]

 

A recent study of the Department of Psychology of the University of Wisconsin demonstrated that both men and women who have have sex with a VR person improve in happiness, productivity, creativity and work performance.

 

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]Are there any risk associated with this technology?[/color]

 

Despite risks associated with VR are very small, please consult your doctor and discuss with him or her about the possible effects of VR.

 

ETC.....

 

 

what do you guys think?

 

Ha this made me laugh. Italian you crazy guy! I'm loving this!

 

This could happen! And the price is more reasonable this time.

 

What do you think of making the programs ourselves though? If we have machines in our brain why do we need someone else to make a virtual women (or virtual anything, including games?)

 

I am betting that by 2060 we could do something like this:

 

[color=#00ff00;]Me: Computer, I wish to auto generate a VR world.[/color]

 

[color=#ff0000;]AI: Understood. What kind of world?[/color]

 

[color=#00ff00;]Me: Turkish Palace, set around 1700. I want a large bedroom, with a giant open window overlooking a beautiful setting sun.[/color]

 

[color=#ff0000;]AI: Specify Dimensions[/color]

 

[color=#00ff00;]Me: Hmm. Let me say 20m by 20m[/color]

 

[color=#ff0000;]AI: A rather big room isnt it?[/color]

 

[color=#00ff00;]Me: You're right. Change it to 19m by 19m.[/color]

 

[color=#ff0000;]AI; AN excellent choice sir.[/color]

 

[color=#00ff00;]Me: Now for the babes. I want six women in my harem today.[/color]

 

[color=#ff0000;]AI: Only 6? And what kind of women?[/color]

 

[color=#00ff00;]Me: Well, I said a Turkish palace didn't I?[/color] [color=#00ff00;]So of course I fancy Turkish Women today!![/color]

 

[color=#ff0000;]AI: Attributes of your desired concubines?[/color]

 

[color=#00ff00;]Me: Choose from my playlist: hotbodies.vr[/color]

 

[color=#ff0000;]AI: Generating[/color]...

 

[color=#00ff00;]Me: This is the life. Here I come Turkish Wenches....[/color]

 

(The above is fictional. Any Turkish Women, I was merely using you as an example. Don't feel offended :cool: )

 

THATS what I think it wil be like...


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what do you guys think?

 

Haha!

 

Weighing up how much money I would spend for something like this, it could be kind of hollow outside sex since she's programmed to like you (Sort of like an escort but with no boundaries). Maybe they could knock the price down with some virtual product placement, call her Durexia instead?

 

VR 2080

 

[color=rgb(173,216,230);]"Hey babe, I've had a really long day, howabout we jump into the jacuzzi and have some fun?"[/color]

[color=rgb(255,160,122);]"Sounds great Rkw! But first just let me grab us a couple of cool VR Coca-Cola®, [/color][color=rgb(255,160,122);]the tastiest virtual beverage on the market!"[/color]

 - Cut to midway through sex -

[color=rgb(255,160,122);]"Oh Rkw! You're so good! I'm enjoying this almost as much as I enjoy flying in my new google hoverca--"[/color]

 - Power Off, straight to bed -

 

mmm see the reason I may not become addicted to VR women is this... it s to easy..everything is programmed, eventually I need some challanges and like natural thought..Thinking that the reasoning of a woman comes from the world i also live.

 

I will sure use virtual reality but not to often..but anyway i should experience this to understand my real feelings with this techonolgy. After I masturbate almost everyday, and even there i program my fantasy and ladies. Still I enjoy it very much...

 

In any case i am sure that many men will use virtual world for sex and this will make women more kind to try to have a real relationship....

 

men will soon be free from exploitation of women through sex



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Ha this made me laugh. Italian you crazy guy! I'm loving this!

 

This could happen! And the price is more reasonable this time.

 

What do you think of making the programs ourselves though? If we have machines in our brain why do we need someone else to make a virtual women (or virtual anything, including games?)

 

I am betting that by 2060 we could do something like this:

 

[color=rgb(0,255,0);]Me: Computer, I wish to auto generate a VR world.[/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]AI: Understood. What kind of world?[/color]

 

[color=rgb(0,255,0);]Me: Turkish Palace, set around 1700. I want a large bedroom, with a giant open window overlooking a beautiful setting sun.[/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]AI: Specify Dimensions[/color]

 

[color=rgb(0,255,0);]Me: Hmm. Let me say 20m by 20m[/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]AI: A rather big room isnt it?[/color]

 

[color=rgb(0,255,0);]Me: You're right. Change it to 19m by 19m.[/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]AI; AN excellent choice sir.[/color]

 

[color=rgb(0,255,0);]Me: Now for the babes. I want six women in my harem today.[/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]AI: Only 6? And what kind of women?[/color]

 

[color=rgb(0,255,0);]Me: Well, I said a Turkish palace didn't I?[/color] [color=rgb(0,255,0);]So of course I fancy Turkish Women today!![/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]AI: Attributes of your desired concubines?[/color]

 

[color=rgb(0,255,0);]Me: Choose from my playlist: hotbodies.vr[/color]

 

[color=rgb(255,0,0);]AI: Generating[/color]...

 

[color=rgb(0,255,0);]Me: This is the life. Here I come Turkish Wenches....[/color]

 

(The above is fictional. Any Turkish Women, I was merely using you as an example. Don't feel offended :cool: )

 

THATS what I think it wil be like...

 

ahahah I can see this happening vey well!



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The only problem I may have see with VR is that people in 10-20 years time may get bored with. I remember Yahoo messanger adult rooms to be very popular even for women. It was very easy to find cyber sex there or on yahoo pool game. now these rooms are empty or full of cam ladies...

it can happen that slowly virtual sex will decrease..what do you think?

 

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Given enough time you get bored of anything, but so long as I have blood and testosterone flowing through my veins I think I'll be utilising porn in one way or another.

Same goes for gaming vr, the environments will need to keep evolving and changing to hold peoples attention, this might be solved simply if people can make and share their own without needing large or experienced work forces to produce them.



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Given enough time you get bored of anything, but so long as I have blood and testosterone flowing through my veins I think I'll be utilising porn in one way or another.

Same goes for gaming vr, the environments will need to keep evolving and changing to hold peoples attention, this might be solved simply if people can make and share their own without needing large or experienced work forces to produce them.

 

As computing gets more advanced that could happen. Ideally you would reduce it down to one person as the developer, with complete control-you.

 

The only problem I may have see with VR is that people in 10-20 years time may get bored with. I remember Yahoo messanger adult rooms to be very popular even for women. It was very easy to find cyber sex there or on yahoo pool game. now these rooms are empty or full of cam ladies...

it can happen that slowly virtual sex will decrease..what do you think?

 

This comes under a fundamental question. Will we get bored if we live for thousands of years?

 

Conventional wisdom says yes. If you do anything long enough you will get bored-even living.

 

But conventional wisdom can be wrong and as Ray Kurzweil points out, the future is ever changing, dynamic if you will. How can you get bored of something that isn't static?

 

I think this will be the case with VR. It wont remain the same, but get more and more complex; more intricate.

 

E.g. you said that you would eventually get bored of VR. What if you could live the life of your favorite fictional character in your favorite fictional world, whoever and wherever that is? And what if it was just as intricate as our own world, where the discoveries were never ending?

 

And finally what if for the duration of the VR session you forgot about the outside world. You are the character. So many possibilities.

 

You can't compare yahoo chat rooms to VR. Better to compare an industry, like gaming as a whole. With the Yahoo adult chat rooms, have you not considered that the people may have left that particular chat room and gone to a different one elsewhere. Maybe the Yahoo ones were inferior to others?

 

So no VR will not get boring. It will only get more exciting my friend.


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Hopelly  will get rid of boredom all togheter. We will replace it with a sense of fullfilment and not of frustration.



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Hmm... interesting thread. :)

 

What if each of us transform ourselves in VR into a likeness of an animal of our choice and initiate sex in the way this species does? If you don't know how they do "it", no problem at all! The simulation will take care of it by altering the way your consciousness and perceptions are structured so they are replicated in the same way they do for this particular species you picked.

 

There will be almost limitless possibilities to pursue.

 

Wouldn't that solve your boredom problem? LOL

 

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"Chasin' Bitches" the vr game.


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