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http://blogs.forbes....e-sex-marriage/

New York Legalizes Same-Sex Marriage

Jun. 25 2011

The New York State Senate passed a bill ending the ban on gay marriage this evening, and New York governor, Andrew Cuomo, signed it into law.

Senate approval was the final hurdle for the legislation, which was strongly supported by Mr. Cuomo. The Assembly approved changes made by the Senate, after passing an earlier version last week. Mr. Cuomo signed the measure late Friday, and the law will go into effect in 30 days, meaning that same-sex couples could begin marrying in New York by midsummer. “I am very proud of New York and the statement we made to the nation today,” Mr. Cuomo said.

The bill’s passage followed a daunting run of defeats in other states where voters barred same-sex marriage by legislative action, constitutional amendment or referendum. Just five states — Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont — permit same-sex marriage. It is also legal in : the District of Columbia.

This is tremendous news, and it’s really gratifying to see the move of four Republican state senators to vote yes on the bill, tipping the scale for passage (and then some). It’s a good day for New Yorkers and a good day for the civil liberties of gay people in New York and across the country.

The battle for full marriage equality is still a long ways from won, but adding New York to the growing list of states with full marriage equality is a huge victory.

And the crowd goes wild…




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so what does this have to do with the tech industry or the future? Or did you just put this up because it is some sort of progress and maybe gay marriage will become national throughout the states?
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Or did you just put this up because it is some sort of progress and maybe gay marriage will become national throughout the states?

I think you answered your own question there.

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This is good. This is the news section, yes it should go here.

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Or did you just put this up because it is some sort of progress and maybe gay marriage will become national throughout the states?

I think you answered your own question there.


ahahahaha.. :rofl:
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http://www.dailymail...itain-2015.html



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David Cameron is such a liberal :p
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why not now!!!

It angers me that places such as Holland and Sweden have done it way back in 2008, and we are still dragging our feet. :(
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the winds of change are upon us

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Well at least we're on are way to doing it though.
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I agree, why not now? Someone should be allowed to marry whoever they want, regardless of sex. No questions asked.

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regardless of sex


or species

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^This almost sounds

regardless of sex

or species

Are you comparing homosexuality to bestiality?
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Are you comparing homosexuality to bestiality?

Of course he is. He's a tea-bagger.

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regardless of sex


or species

Because animals have a legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

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You confuse me Will. You talk at length about how pretty tigers are and what wonderful creatures they are, and how essential they are to the survival of the planet. Yet being in a mutual loving relationship with one is suddenly controversial? Is there no pleasing you? And at what point exactly did I become a far right american, creationist, science denying tea-bagger? I've never been to america, I'm an atheist, I've spent a large portion of my adult life studying and understanding science. Are you really of the opinion that there are only two kinds of people in the world? You seem to think anyone who disagrees with you on anything has to be some kind of retarded republican scientific illiterate. I think you might find that everyone disagrees with you on something or other, so either everyone in the world is an idiot republican except you, or maybe perhaps there are people who don't fall into your ridiculous generalisations?
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You confuse me Will. You talk at length about how pretty tigers are and what wonderful creatures they are, and how essential they are to the survival of the planet. Yet being in a mutual loving relationship with one is suddenly controversial? Is there no pleasing you?
And at what point exactly did I become a far right american, creationist, science denying tea-bagger?
I've never been to america, I'm an atheist, I've spent a large portion of my adult life studying and understanding science. Are you really of the opinion that there are only two kinds of people in the world? You seem to think anyone who disagrees with you on anything has to be some kind of retarded republican scientific illiterate. I think you might find that everyone disagrees with you on something or other, so either everyone in the world is an idiot republican except you, or maybe perhaps there are people who don't fall into your ridiculous generalisations?

The insinuation that gay marriage will lead to animal marriage is popular argument against gay marriage in America. Because that's what it sounded like you were saying, fox assumed the worst and incidentally the most logical.

Granted I would add that the Tea Party is not concerned about social issues. It's strictly concerned about fiscal issues, even though most of Tea Partiers do hold "conservative" social values, but the party as a whole is largely Libertarian and nothing more.
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I never intended any insinuation of anything like that, in fact that strange connection never even crossed my mind. I'm 100% behind (pun intended?) gay marriage, I was simply wondering how far the freedom to love could go. Is bestiality not just another social taboo at the end of the day, in a similar way that homosexuality was a taboo in the past? And anyway, a marriage doesn't necessarily need to involve sex if that's your main issue.

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Well, if we're going to get right down to the core of the issue, homosexual intercourse is a consensual act between two adults. Sex with an animal is a case that far more closely resembles rape, as the animal is not capable of consenting. Now, should we ever get to a point where we start "elevating" great apes to our level of intelligence, and consent becomes possible, then things begin to become interesting again...

Making a statement implying that gay marriage will lead to legalizing bestiality (presumably because our precious social taboos are being erased), could be construed as a homophobic insult.

Here's why...

There are taboos that are taboos because "normal" people find them distasteful, but which are performed by consenting adults... examples would be homosexual sex, BDSM, and depending on who you ask, anal sex, or even anything that isn't the missionary position. And then there are taboos that are taboos because we find them distasteful, AND one of the two parties is not consenting... examples of those include rape, child molestation, and bestiality.

There is a very, very large difference between the two, and those who oppose gay marriage on the grounds that it will lead to adults marrying children or bestiality completely fail to see that difference. The difference is consent.
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ive seen a man fucked to death by a horse..and it looks like both of them are consenting (with the sex). although i agree with Truthiness, i find the reason for consent as a weak argument. i think bestiality is disgusting, but if i saw someone doing it with a sheep, for example, and the sheep seems to enjoy it, id just probably look away. with marriage its a different matter, for the sole reason that animals does not have the faculty to grasp the concept of marriage or even love in a human sense. its similar to asking someone to sign a contract without the other party not having any idea of what hes signing and getting himself into.

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