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Population control and reduction methods?


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They are talking about on the radio about over population of the world in the next few decades, some people are saying we need to reduce population by 5billion. What methods do we use? Do we have 1 child per family to be allowed like china? Or could it go down the nazi road where they kill off 5billion in death camps? Or could they release a virus to kill the 5billion? What you think?

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They are talking about on the radio about over population of the world in the next few decades, some people are saying we need to reduce population by 5billion. What methods do we use? Do we have 1 child per family to be allowed like china? Or could it go down the nazi road where they kill off 5billion in death camps? Or could they release a virus to kill the 5billion? What you think?

 

Death camps? Deadly virus? Stagnation or reduction of population is natural thing in developed & highly-urbanized societies. Just make the third world more advanced & enjoy results.


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you or I better hope its not you or me


I am not a fan of S.T show "just don't like it" ,Its boring like hell but I love to see cool technology in coming years.

i don't live in really great english countries like some you guys, im alittle indian,chinese,enbgrish ,mexican, leaf village and soul society .


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Education and birth control.
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Cranks like 82 year old D. Attenborough are propagating this old seventies trope which was wrong then and wrong now. I noticed Attenborough didn't feel the need to un-burden us by visiting a euthanasia center.



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http://www.theguardi...olution-stopped I think before it gets too overcrowded we will be moving to other planets or colonise the moon. Plus some North Korean scientist will invent some nasty virus that will wipe half us out no doubt.

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Improved health care and education has shown to reduce birthrates. Not because people are less capable of having children because they naturally no longer wish to have large families. We don't need to resort to evil things to reduce population growth, when we can do it by doing good things like educating people.



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I don't think we should resolve the population problem with killing people, but rather by lowering the amount of births. I disagree with one-child policies, but I think perhaps making the legal age of having children higher would be a good idea, from 16 to somewhere between 18 and 21. Those over the age of 16 but under 18-21 would still be able to take part in sexual activities, but it would be illegal for them to do it without a condom and birth control pill. Also, encouraging people to put adoption before birth would be a good strategy.
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http://www.theguardi...olution-stopped I think before it gets too overcrowded we will be moving to other planets or colonise the moon. Plus some North Korean scientist will invent some nasty virus that will wipe half us out no doubt.

North Korean scientists couldnt even make fire with matches.
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Improved health care and education has shown to reduce birthrates. Not because people are less capable of having children because they naturally no longer wish to have large families. We don't need to resort to evil things to reduce population growth, when we can do it by doing good things like educating people.

not true,its because everything like food medic and housing prices went 400% past 20-30 years and income salary have only grown 50-70% for smart people ofcause they had to live alone 


I am not a fan of S.T show "just don't like it" ,Its boring like hell but I love to see cool technology in coming years.

i don't live in really great english countries like some you guys, im alittle indian,chinese,enbgrish ,mexican, leaf village and soul society .


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I think Mother Earth will take it upon herself to do that for us.


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I think Mother Earth will take it upon herself to do that for us.

At this point, nothing 'Mother Earth' can throw at us short of a supervolcano can really even bend our knee population-wise.


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Population control and reduction is [color=#ff0000;]STUPID!!![/color], the growth of the world economy is dependent on population [color=#00ff00;]GROWTH!!![/color], I understand this is putting strains on the environment right now, BUT, we should be resolving this problem through technological innovation so that we can support more people. People have been banging the drum of overpopulation for centuries but they have always been wrong thanks too [color=#ffd700;]INNOVATION[/color], in fact there may be a real end to how much our planet can support, but that is still well off, in fact the only reason I can ever see people moving beyond Earth into the stars is because we need to colonize other planets/dwell resources from them to support our growing population. [color=#800080;]WE SHOULD EMBRACE GROWTH NOT LOOK TO LIMIT POPULATION!!![/color]


Edited by MarcZ, 14 September 2013 - 03:30 AM.

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I don't think we should resolve the population problem with killing people, but rather by lowering the amount of births. I disagree with one-child policies, but I think perhaps making the legal age of having children higher would be a good idea, from 16 to somewhere between 18 and 21. Those over the age of 16 but under 18-21 would still be able to take part in sexual activities, but it would be illegal for them to do it without a condom and birth control pill. Also, encouraging people to put adoption before birth would be a good strategy.

Also, here is a good idea once effective anti-aging/rejuvenative medical technologies become available--deny people the ability to buy/purchase these technologies unless they voluntarily get themselves permanently sterilized beforehand.


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I don't think we should resolve the population problem with killing people, but rather by lowering the amount of births. I disagree with one-child policies, but I think perhaps making the legal age of having children higher would be a good idea, from 16 to somewhere between 18 and 21. Those over the age of 16 but under 18-21 would still be able to take part in sexual activities, but it would be illegal for them to do it without a condom and birth control pill. Also, encouraging people to put adoption before birth would be a good strategy.

Also, here is a good idea once effective anti-aging/rejuvenative medical technologies become available--deny people the ability to buy/purchase these technologies unless they voluntarily get themselves permanently sterilized beforehand.

 

 

What is your problem! Forced sterilization is inhumane, and violates everyone's human rights.


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Yeah, what is all this insanity about denying things unless you swear to never have children? It's... stupid.


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I think that population growth will take care of it self. Birth rates decline to near or below replacement rates when countries become industrialized.  China's birth rates were already on the decline prior to the one child policy and would probably be the same they are now with out such a policy. Then there is always the possibility of a natural disaster or infectious disease outbreak that could significantly reduce populations.   I think the economy can still grow with the population declining, so long as economic growth due to productivity increases outpaces the economic reduction due to population decline. 



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The only thing you need to control population is to better living conditions. This includes housing & protection, food & water, and ofcourse education (very important). Simple as that!

 

Money, for the time being, is important too. But more money flows when you have the things I described above. More research in contraception never hurts as well.


Edited by Squillimy, 16 September 2013 - 06:15 PM.

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I don't think we should resolve the population problem with killing people, but rather by lowering the amount of births. I disagree with one-child policies, but I think perhaps making the legal age of having children higher would be a good idea, from 16 to somewhere between 18 and 21. Those over the age of 16 but under 18-21 would still be able to take part in sexual activities, but it would be illegal for them to do it without a condom and birth control pill. Also, encouraging people to put adoption before birth would be a good strategy.

Also, here is a good idea once effective anti-aging/rejuvenative medical technologies become available--deny people the ability to buy/purchase these technologies unless they voluntarily get themselves permanently sterilized beforehand.
  What is your problem! Forced sterilization is inhumane, and violates everyone's human rights.
He didn't say forced sterilisation, he said voluntary sterilisation, so I completely agree with him, it would be completely fair.

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Hoolly. I should just abandon this thread before I spend day energy forced eugenics is not ok at all. The problem is primarily in the third world. The only humane way is to increase our technical capacity. We should also have open borders with first the dismantling of the military industrial complex. We spend so much on defence. We remove all barriers to trade and immigration. The only way the population will stabilize is tat the standard of living goes up. Then you won't have to worry if your 10 sons can plow the roots in the field.

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