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Is the United States a hyperpower?


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Poll: Is the United States a hyperpower? (42 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you think the USA is a hyperpower?

  1. Yes (12 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. No (17 votes [40.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.48%

  3. Depends on what the qualifications of a hyperpower are.. (13 votes [30.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.95%

Do you think China will overtake the United States in importance throughout the world?

  1. Yes (24 votes [57.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.14%

  2. No (8 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  3. Possibly (10 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

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Do you think the USA is a hyperpower? 
I think it is debatable, and certainly the USA is the only super power at the moment ( however possibly in the near future China will be a super power as well )

Do you think Russia itself is still a superpower today? 
 
I myself think the US is a super power, however I'm indifferent with "hyperpower" as increasing debt, and military presence decreasing does not make the US as powerful as it was, say, a decade ago..
I thought of this question while reading a wikipedia article on the subject, so was curious to see what all of you thought..
 
 

"Liberterianism is a mental disease. A national health crisis and a threat to the future of this country...Worse than the threat from terrorism, asteroids, disease and yes global warming.
It is mindless anti-government idiocy. If it isn't turned back I predict the end of this country as a world power. Simply put the need to educate our entire population like any sane country is sen as wrong by the cult that practice this foolish idiocy. So is simple workers rights, child labor and every other sane policy of the modern world."
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1. Yes

2. Yes

 

The United states is still a super power within the military, science and economically.

 

China is catching up fast....Depends who we elect as the tea party would make damn sure we weren't anymore.


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1. Yes

2. Yes

 

The United states is still a super power within the military, science and economically.

 

China is catching up fast....Depends who we elect as the tea party would make damn sure we weren't anymore.

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Further question:

Do you think America will still be the "land of opportunity"? 

Whats ironic is America ranks poorly compared to other developed countries in social mobility..


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"Liberterianism is a mental disease. A national health crisis and a threat to the future of this country...Worse than the threat from terrorism, asteroids, disease and yes global warming.
It is mindless anti-government idiocy. If it isn't turned back I predict the end of this country as a world power. Simply put the need to educate our entire population like any sane country is sen as wrong by the cult that practice this foolish idiocy. So is simple workers rights, child labor and every other sane policy of the modern world."
-Matthew
 
"The man who does not value himself, cannot value anything or anyone.”
-Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
 
"The world runs on individuals pursuing their self interests. The great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein didn't construct his theory under order from a, from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn't revolutionize the automobile industry that way."
-Milton Friedman
 
 

 


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I would call it a superpower, but not a hyperpower. Maybe about 10 years ago, it was a hyperpower, but now it has declined too much.


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Dont know / Yes.

What the difference between super- & hyper- power? Yes, USA is the only superpower today, but no, it will not last long (historically speaking). First, China will overtake them in the coming decades & second, USA is declining power by itself, in many ways. I suspect, they are on the verge of the economic collapse because of their enormous debts.


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Dont know / Yes.

What the difference between super- & hyper- power?

Superpowers have extremely serious competition, while hyperpowers do not.



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Dont know / Yes.

What the difference between super- & hyper- power?

Superpowers have extremely serious competition, while hyperpowers do not.

 

 

That is an indubitable world hegemony? In that case USA is definitely not a hyperpower. Perhaps, the only very short time when it was true, was early 1990s: USSR already collapsed while China wasn't still strong enough. But world has changed since then: now both China and Russia are feeling free to ignore or go against USA, if the current situation requires...


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For all who say the US has declined, I assure you it has not. Actually, it has grown more powerful than it has ever been in absolute terms. Now the question we're discussing here is has America waned in influence (militarily or economically) relative to other countries especially China?

 

The US has one advantage that the Chinese do not - it has experience dealing with another superpower economically and militarily. It outlasted the vaunted Soviets although some may assert that it was the Soviets themselves who caused their downfall. Will America also outlast the Chinese as well? Barring a nuclear war, I don't think any country can outlast another country - only that governments will change by way of revolts by their own citizens. A revolt of this nature is more likely to happen to America than any other eventuality.


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Now the question we're discussing here is has America waned in influence (militarily or economically) relative to other countries especially China?

 

Here is actually nothing to discuss:

 

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...perhaps a bit later than in 2017, but anyway it's just a matter of time. Military influence will also grow with China getting richer and richer.

 

 

The US has one advantage that the Chinese do not - it has experience dealing with another superpower economically and militarily. It outlasted the vaunted Soviets...

 

And the same way, i'm sure, Chinese will outlast the vaunted Americans. Unlike of young and narcissistic USA, they are the ancient nation with long and vast experience of dealing with "foreign barbarians". So I wouldn't worry about their foreign policy: they will act smart and careful, but will never forget the main thing, hardcoded in their culture: only Celestial Empire can/must lead the world to the heights of civilization  :)


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Ugh? I completely disagree. *laughs*

 

 

Countries evolve, their borders change. America won't be the exception. China won't be either. And especially your sweet Mother Russia. :)

 

Try to get your head out of your proverbial "old world mentality" butt.


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'MURICA!!! FUUUUUUCK YEAH!!!!

 

With that out of my system, patriotism is really taken too far and in the future that may decline a lot with increased globalization.  No the USA is not a hyperpower


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Ugh? But I just pointed out well-known fact. There are actually different estimates of Chinese GDP, but no matter which one you prefer, the gap between USA and China is rapidly declining. If you think it's just "doesn't make any sense" and "needs to be set aside"... then i don't even know what to think.


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'MURICA!!! FUUUUUUCK YEAH!!!!

With that out of my system, *nationalism is really taken too far and in the future that may decline a lot with increased globalization.  No the USA is not a hyperpower

 

ftfy

 

The USA is not a hyperpower. Maybe it was post-soviet collapse and pre-2007 recession, but it sure as hell isn't now.



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Eh, those words are pretty close.  Yes, you are probably more right using the word 'nationalism' though.


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Ugh? But I just pointed out well-known fact. There are actually different estimates of Chinese GDP, but no matter which one you prefer, the gap between USA and China is rapidly declining. If you think it's just "doesn't make any sense" and "needs to be set aside"... then i don't even know what to think.

 

 

You were showing me trends I already knew were happening.

 

And what was your point all this time?

 

That it's great for China to be more powerful than the US? Yay! Russia finally gets its "schadenfreude" moment for losing its superpower status while America stays as one, eh?. Disgusting.


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Ugh? I completely disagree. *laughs*

 

 

Countries evolve, their borders change. America won't be the exception. China won't be either. And especially your sweet Mother Russia. :)

 

Try to get your head out of your proverbial "old world mentality" butt.

 

For some unknown reason, I don't like those who completely changes their posts AFTER someone else already replied to them...


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You were showing me trends I already knew were happening.

 

And what was your point all this time?

 

That it's great for China to be more powerful than the US? Yay! Russia finally gets its "schadenfreude" moment for losing its superpower status while America stays as one, eh?. Disgusting.

 

 

...and you also put your words into my mouth. Disgusting.


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Yeah, that would be wonderful.


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