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Is the United States a hyperpower?


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Poll: Is the United States a hyperpower? (42 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you think the USA is a hyperpower?

  1. Yes (12 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. No (17 votes [40.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.48%

  3. Depends on what the qualifications of a hyperpower are.. (13 votes [30.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.95%

Do you think China will overtake the United States in importance throughout the world?

  1. Yes (24 votes [57.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.14%

  2. No (8 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  3. Possibly (10 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

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#21
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Ugh? I completely disagree. *laughs*

Countries evolve, their borders change. America won't be the exception. China won't be either. And especially your sweet Mother Russia. :)

Try to get your head out of your proverbial "old world mentality" butt.

 

And what was your point all this time?

That it's great for China to be more powerful than the US? Yay! Russia finally gets its "schadenfreude" moment for losing its superpower status while America stays as one, eh?. Disgusting.

 

...and you also put your words into my mouth. Disgusting.

 

^ Boo-hoo

 

Want me to play the violin for you?

 

Yeah, that would be wonderful.

Enough.
Stop bickering and acting like self-absorbed children.


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Pathetic.


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Enough. Stop bickering and acting like self-absorbed children.

 

Pathetic.

 

 

Mensdeskt2, now who's the one bickering? :)

 

You aren't exactly above the fray, you know.


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Mensdeskt2, now who's the one bickering? :)

You aren't exactly above the fray, you know.


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Mensdeskt2, now who's the one bickering? :)

You aren't exactly above the fray, you know.


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Now you're being hypocritical. You bicker just as much as the next person. As honorable as your intentions were, you had to satisfy the urge to get back at me - that's pathetic, too. :)

 

I'm outta here.


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1. Depends 2. Yes

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Now you are a true example of a hypocrite. You bicker just as much as the next person.

Oh, I assure you that I am very much a hypocrite. However, bickering is simply not my style. I'd rather play it cool.

 

As honorable as your intentions were, you had to satisfy the urge to get back at me - that's pathetic, too.

 

I'm... not sure how that one works in this particular situation.

That does seem out of place -- as though it were shoehorned in so you could take a shot at me. I shan't be affected by your measly and petty attempts at provoking me. 

 

You do not seem like yourself today, Raklian. Your coherence and consistency appear disrupted.


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Wow, such a drama... For the first time i'm 100% agree with:

 

 

I'm outta here.

 

 

Me too... but the last thing i'd noted is:

 

 

And what was your point all this time?

 

That it's great for China to be more powerful than the US? Yay! Russia finally gets its "schadenfreude" moment for losing its superpower status while America stays as one, eh?. Disgusting.

 

 

Let's leave aside the fact that you attributed to me your own cliches and fantasies about  "stereotypical Russians" with their "thrist for revenge"... you, my friend, don't know a damn thing about me & I didn't give you the slightest reason for such idiotic generalizations. That is what really disgusting. 

 

As for growing China, i suspect they (as superpower) will be much more a threat to my "sweet Mother Russia" than USA ever was. But history is history, it is taking its course regardless of my of your desires and phobias.

 

Now i said everything i wanted, so i'm also outta here.


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And the same way, i'm sure, Chinese will outlast the vaunted Americans. Unlike of young and narcissistic USA, they are the ancient nation with long and vast experience of dealing with "foreign barbarians". So I wouldn't worry about their foreign policy: they will act smart and careful, but will never forget the main thing, hardcoded in their culture: only Celestial Empire can/must lead the world to the heights of civilization  :)

 

 

 

 

 

Let's leave aside the fact that you attributed to me your own cliches and fantasies about  "stereotypical Russians" with their "thrist for revenge"... you, my friend, don't know a damn thing about me & I didn't give you the slightest reason for such idiotic generalizations. That is what really disgusting. 

 

 

 

Did you think I was making that idiotic generalization for no reason in the first place? :)

 

I was simply returning the favor so you can see how I feel.

 

 

I rest my case.


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That does seem out of place -- as though it were shoehorned in so you could take a shot at me.  

 

You took a shot at me by calling us "pathetic" in the first place. You think I was going to take it sitting down? What did you expect was going to happen - that I was gonna amiably agree with you?


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You took a shot at me by calling us "pathetic" in the first place. You think I was going to take it sitting down? What did you expect was going to happen - that I was gonna amiably agree with you?

 

Absolutely not, I was merely calling you out on what you were doing. I find bickering and petty squabbles -- very much like this one right now -- to be a behavior suitable for a toddler. With this, I digress. I'll now return to being an observer, at least for today. Good evening and farewell.


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Absolutely not, I was merely calling you out on what you were doing. I find bickering and petty squabbles -- very much like this one right now -- to be a behavior suitable for a toddler. With this, I digress. I'll now return to being an observer, at least for today. Good evening and farewell.

 

 

*sighs* I think a lot of adult human behavior resembles that of a toddler's - sometimes we forget to resist the urge to stoop down to our basic urges despite our reinforced inhibitions. And we don't even know how to apologize with a bruised ego. Well, we just have to agree to disagree and leave at that.


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A hyper power? Wtf is this power rangers?



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What's the next step above a hyperpower? ULTIMAPOWER, all caps?



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What's the next step above a hyperpower? ULTIMAPOWER, all caps?

 

Can a country also enter godhood? :D


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A hyper power? Wtf is this power rangers?

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Hyperpower

 

No, and that comment wasn't exactly appreciated.. 


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I don't think China will overtake the US. I don't think the US is a hyperpower, but certainly a superpower. My main problem with China is their growth rate. They are growing at an unsustainable pace.. 

 

I read around 8 articles just now about this and some of them bring up good points. I'm not sure if the telegraph is reliable, biased, etc as I have not encountered it, but they bring up good points

 

http://www.telegraph...-after-all.html

 

Also, the USA has the potential to overtake Russia in natural gas production, and Saudi Arabia in oil exportations within the next few decades. Because of this, the US will be a energy exporter, which I feel would be important for our economy.

 

The USA exports culture. When is the last time you heard of a famous Chinese song, movie, etc? Western culture dominates, and the USA contributes heavily to western culture. In fact, most of the highest grossing films are produced by Americans.

 

America's contribution to science and technology has been massive as you all know, and NASA is still the largest space agency in the world. Not to mention the many American private space companies such as SpaceX, and Planetary Resources. 

 

America innovates a lot - Tesla Motors, Google, Microsoft, Apple, IBM, etc 

Silicon Valley is undoubtedly the capital of innovation and technology.

 

The USA has a high quality of life, our poorest are not "poor" by global standards. Our hungry can get access to food from charities or through food stamps, our homeless have access to welfare. We still have many who are below the poverty line, however, our poor are better off then the poorest of Sudan. 

 

America lacks socially, we are a "conservative" country by global standards sadly - we don't have universal healthcare, or a strong welfare state. However, I think our welfare system is superior to China's, and nevertheless I think the USA may not decline as a world power..


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"Liberterianism is a mental disease. A national health crisis and a threat to the future of this country...Worse than the threat from terrorism, asteroids, disease and yes global warming.
It is mindless anti-government idiocy. If it isn't turned back I predict the end of this country as a world power. Simply put the need to educate our entire population like any sane country is sen as wrong by the cult that practice this foolish idiocy. So is simple workers rights, child labor and every other sane policy of the modern world."
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"The world runs on individuals pursuing their self interests. The great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein didn't construct his theory under order from a, from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn't revolutionize the automobile industry that way."
-Milton Friedman
 
 

 


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^ My thoughts exactly.

 

 

It is not to discount other countries' potential for greatness, though.


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^Exactly, I myself hope that countries such as China, India, Brazil, etc grow and flourish. However I dispute the fact that America is declining. America is still the land of innovation, and I can argue that the american dream is still active. 


"Liberterianism is a mental disease. A national health crisis and a threat to the future of this country...Worse than the threat from terrorism, asteroids, disease and yes global warming.
It is mindless anti-government idiocy. If it isn't turned back I predict the end of this country as a world power. Simply put the need to educate our entire population like any sane country is sen as wrong by the cult that practice this foolish idiocy. So is simple workers rights, child labor and every other sane policy of the modern world."
-Matthew
 
"The man who does not value himself, cannot value anything or anyone.”
-Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
 
"The world runs on individuals pursuing their self interests. The great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein didn't construct his theory under order from a, from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn't revolutionize the automobile industry that way."
-Milton Friedman
 
 

 





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