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A new study debunks one of the biggest arguments against basic income

 

https://www.vox.com/...on-basic-income

 


 

 

As someone who writes frequently about universal basic income — the idea of giving everyone enough money to live on, no strings attached — the most common argument I hear against the proposal has nothing to do with its cost, or the potential that it’ll discourage people from working, an attack that former Vice President Joe Biden used this week.

 

The most common criticism I hear, rather, is that basic income would cause massive inflation.

 

This idea has some intuitive plausibility to it. Imagine the government printed and handed out $1 billion for each person in the country. It seems obvious that this wouldn’t actuallymake everyone billionaires — that is, it wouldn’t let everyone live in Four Seasons suites and fly Gulfstream jets everywhere. A lot of people would just stop working because of their newfound riches, corporations would have to jack up wages dramatically to keep their labor force, those higher wages would lead to higher prices, and the resulting inflation would wipe out most or all of the gains.

 

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So what does this mean for basic income? Extrapolating from the Mexican case to other countries, particularly richer ones like the US, is tricky. But this research is perhaps the best evidence we have on the inflationary effects of cash programs. And it’s pretty sanguine: While there are interesting differences between giving out cash and giving out food, what definitely doesn’t happen is a cash-provoked inflationary spiral. The research suggests that basic income and related policy really do leave individuals better off, rather than just making goods more expensive.

 


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Poll: Majority disagrees with Trump on firing athletes who kneel during anthem
Source: The Hill

 


BY JOSH DELK - 09/26/17 06:10 PM EDT

A majority of Americans believe that NFL players should not be fired for kneeling for the national anthem at football games, disagreeing with President Trump on the issue this week, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday.

The survey found that while 57 percent of Americans do not think the National Football League should fire players who protest by kneeling during the anthem, 58 percent said that professional athletes in general "should be required to stand during the national anthem at sporting events."

The findings come after Trump brought national attention to the protests at a political rally last week, condemning the non-violent protest first used by former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

"Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. He is fired,' " Trump said.

 

 

Read more: http://thehill.com/b...trump-on-firing


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Poll: Majority disagrees with Trump on firing athletes who kneel during anthem
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BY JOSH DELK - 09/26/17 06:10 PM EDT

A majority of Americans believe that NFL players should not be fired for kneeling for the national anthem at football games, disagreeing with President Trump on the issue this week, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday.

The survey found that while 57 percent of Americans do not think the National Football League should fire players who protest by kneeling during the anthem, 58 percent said that professional athletes in general "should be required to stand during the national anthem at sporting events."

The findings come after Trump brought national attention to the protests at a political rally last week, condemning the non-violent protest first used by former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

"Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. He is fired,' " Trump said.

 

 

Read more: http://thehill.com/b...trump-on-firing

What a misleading article. "57% of American do not think the National Football League should fire players who protest by kneeling during the anthem." They should've said "Out of the 1,622 Adults who were surveyed, 57% of them do not think the National Football League should fire players who protest by kneeling during the anthem."



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Aging Japan Wants Automation, Not Immigration

Japan's next boom may be at hand, driven by the very thing that is supposed to be bad for its economy. 
Japan's aging and shrinking population has been partly blamed for the on-again, off-again nature of growth and deflation the past three decades. Lately, it's been driving a different and just as powerful idea: In the absence of large-scale immigration, the only viable solution for many domestic industries is to plow money into robots and information technology more generally.
Humans will still be needed, of course, and that's behind a separate by-product of Japan's demographic challenges that I wrote about during a visit there last month. With unemployment down to 2.8 percent, companies are increasingly realizing they need to pay up to attract and keep qualified personnel. The other option -- increased immigration -- is politically difficult.

What else did you expect from such a conservative, monoethnic society?

 

Oh well, that's what happens when technology overtakes tradition and begins destroying the country.

http://www.worldatla...-of-autism.html

According to this article, there are 161 cases of Autism per 10,000 Japanese children studied. All the kids are too busy staying inside playing their Video Games that they rarely go outside, this stays with them when they are adults, a lot of young Japanese men just play video games and don't go outside to socialise. Technology has destroyed this country, it's a shame really. It's hard to imagine this once great country had an empire which ruled over the Pacific.



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Poll: Majority disagrees with Trump on firing athletes who kneel during anthem
Source: The Hill

 


BY JOSH DELK - 09/26/17 06:10 PM EDT

A majority of Americans believe that NFL players should not be fired for kneeling for the national anthem at football games, disagreeing with President Trump on the issue this week, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday.

The survey found that while 57 percent of Americans do not think the National Football League should fire players who protest by kneeling during the anthem, 58 percent said that professional athletes in general "should be required to stand during the national anthem at sporting events."

The findings come after Trump brought national attention to the protests at a political rally last week, condemning the non-violent protest first used by former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

"Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. He is fired,' " Trump said.

 

 

Read more: http://thehill.com/b...trump-on-firing

What a misleading article. "57% of American do not think the National Football League should fire players who protest by kneeling during the anthem." They should've said "Out of the 1,622 Adults who were surveyed, 57% of them do not think the National Football League should fire players who protest by kneeling during the anthem."

 

 

Well is the survey based upon a representative sample? If it is, then it should represent the population as a whole. That being said, I don't know the answer but just a quick glance would indicate that at least the sample size seems to be adequate . Often times, however, there is indeed something wrong with a study's research methodology which can be picked apart.


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Oh well, that's what happens when technology overtakes tradition and begins destroying the country.

http://www.worldatla...-of-autism.html

According to this article, there are 161 cases of Autism per 10,000 Japanese children studied. All the kids are too busy staying inside playing their Video Games that they rarely go outside, this stays with them when they are adults, a lot of young Japanese men just play video games and don't go outside to socialise. Technology has destroyed this country, it's a shame really. It's hard to imagine this once great country had an empire which ruled over the Pacific.

 

Ah yes they've fallen a long way from their glory days!

 

 

"....responsible for the deaths of millions, some estimate between 3 and 14 million civilians and prisoners of war through massacre, human experimentation, starvation, and forced labor that was either directly perpetrated or condoned by the Japanese military and government"

All that healthy fresh air and exercise they used to get! technology really has ruined japan! If only they'd go back to traditional pastimes like conquering and raping all their neighbors, they'd soon have their population problem sorted out!

 

EDIT: In all seriousness, the problem in japan is not technology,  its mostly the fact that they've made it very difficult for young people to get married and have children. Firstly 40% of their workforce is on temporary contracts, which is not a good situation to plan for the future from. They also have to work absurdly long hours, with terrible work/life balance. This is for both men and women, so of course no one has time to get married and have children. This is all great, and explains why they still have the 3rd largest economy in the world, but also why they are having no childeren. 


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Boy Scouts will admit girls, allow them to earn Eagle Scout rank 

 

 

 

As a Boy Scout and a venture scout(Which is a part of the BSA that is Co-ed and for 14+) I saw this coming a mile away.  The BSA already has co-ed programs like Venture Scouts, Sea Scouts, and Varsity Scouts.  With the BSA allowing girls to get merit badges 10 months ago the next logical step would be to allow them to get Eagle.  The girl scouts are not doing so hot right now, anyway, but even if they were at full capacity, this would kill them.  the girl scouts will not exist in a few years.


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Boy Scouts will admit girls, allow them to earn Eagle Scout rank 

 

 

 

As a Boy Scout and a venture scout(Which is a part of the BSA that is Co-ed and for 14+) I saw this coming a mile away.  The BSA already has co-ed programs like Venture Scouts, Sea Scouts, and Varsity Scouts.  With the BSA allowing girls to get merit badges 10 months ago the next logical step would be to allow them to get Eagle.  The girl scouts are not doing so hot right now, anyway, but even if they were at full capacity, this would kill them.  the girl scouts will not exist in a few years.

I find it bizarre that we don't just improve the (admittedly lame) Girl Scouts.


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I find it bizarre that we don't just improve the (admittedly lame) Girl Scouts.

 

That's part of the problem, they won't improve.  Did you know that girl scout thin mints are the number one selling cookie in the US, with Oreos trailing behind in 2nd.  It's not like they don't have a ton of money, but they have done near nothing in the last 20 years to improve scouting for the older girls.  Girl scouts has been and always will be focused on 1st to 5th graders, with no chance for higher ranks for any reason other than age.  It's ridiculous.  This is mostly their fault that it has come to this.  Even for the 1st to 5th graders, it's not that fun.  I know a few former girl scouts who said that cub scouts looked cooler than their girl scout programs.  It's better this way anyway, to have one scouting program.


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That's part of the problem, they won't improve.  Did you know that girl scout thin mints are the number one selling cookie in the US, with Oreos trailing behind in 2nd.  It's not like they don't have a ton of money, but they have done near nothing in the last 20 years to improve scouting for the older girls.  Girl scouts has been and always will be focused on 1st to 5th graders, with no chance for higher ranks for any reason other than age.  It's ridiculous.  This is mostly their fault that it has come to this.  Even for the 1st to 5th graders, it's not that fun.  I know a few former girl scouts who said that cub scouts looked cooler than their girl scout programs.  It's better this way anyway, to have one scouting program.

 

I guess managing a group of 1st to 5th graders is less work than older kids? In the sense that with older kids you need to provide them with more advanced challenges than younger children, which require longer trips, or more expensive equipment etc? So if their staff and volunteers are mostly people with experience and interest in dealing with this age group, that might explain their reluctance to expand.

 

Normally i'd just assume people were pocketing all the cookie revenue and spending the minimum needed to keep the gravy train flowing. In theory they are a non-profit though, so i'd hope that they wouldn't be able to get away with that?



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Boy Scouts will admit girls, allow them to earn Eagle Scout rank 

 

 

 

As a Boy Scout and a venture scout(Which is a part of the BSA that is Co-ed and for 14+) I saw this coming a mile away.  The BSA already has co-ed programs like Venture Scouts, Sea Scouts, and Varsity Scouts.  With the BSA allowing girls to get merit badges 10 months ago the next logical step would be to allow them to get Eagle.  The girl scouts are not doing so hot right now, anyway, but even if they were at full capacity, this would kill them.  the girl scouts will not exist in a few years.

 

With this most recent move, I wonder if the boy scouts will exist in a few years. 



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With this most recent move, I wonder if the boy scouts will exist in a few years. 

 

 

Because they'll re-brand to just be Scouts?


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With this most recent move, I wonder if the boy scouts will exist in a few years. 

 

 

Because they'll re-brand to just be Scouts?

 

 

No. Part of the attraction was that it was a 'boys club', so to speak. You let girls in and there will be conflict. At the very least, there certainly won't be the same level of camaraderie. I therefore can see attendance among boys declining. That, in addition to the fact that now the scout leaders can be homosexual, and you just know that at some point, there will be some kind of sexual allegations, whether of the boys or the girls, and whether true or not, that will tarnish it's image.   



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No. Part of the attraction was that it was a 'boys club', so to speak. You let girls in and there will be conflict. At the very least, there certainly won't be the same level of camaraderie. I therefore can see attendance among boys declining. That, in addition to the fact that now the scout leaders can be homosexual, and you just know that at some point, there will be some kind of sexual allegations, whether of the boys or the girls, and whether true or not, that will tarnish it's image.   

 

 

In terms of it no longer being a "boys club" do you think the objection will be from the parents? i.e. "i don't want my teenage child off camping with teenagers of the opposite sex, who knows what they'll get up to?" or do you think you'll get a bunch of children refusing to go to because "girls/boys are gross?" or enough of a combination of the two that attendance just drops off? I mean you're doubling the potential customers, so you'd need a lot of kids dropping out due to these issues.

 

I think a big source of problems between men and women come from the fact that (in many places, but obvs. not everywhere) as children we're split up and boys are friends with boys, and girls are friends with girls, then only after puberty hits do we start bridging that divide, so i'd imagine if i was a parent i'd probably be happier with my kids in mixed groups.

 

I guess a few scandals around sexual abuse of scouts would kill it, but that would be true with or without girls or open homosexuals involved. Still the catholic church has been caught doing that sort of thing loads of times and they're still going strong, so its possible they could weather that storm if it ever happens. 



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I don't think it's just a boy/girl issue, but in general, the proverbs 'You can't please everyone', and 'You can't be all things to all people', hold in many different areas of life. But yeah, haha, they probably will end up calling it just 'The Scouts', but then I'm afraid it will no longer be differentiated or unique enough to be considered an attractive pursuit. It will be rather generic. In short, it will have lost it's identity.



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The Youth Scouts has a nice ring to it, though. Any organization with "Youth" in its name sounds good to me.


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Psychologists surveyed hundreds of alt-right supporters. The results are unsettling.

. . .A lot of the findings align with what we intuit about the alt-right: This group is supportive of social hierarchies that favor whites at the top. It’s distrustful of mainstream media and strongly opposed to Black Lives Matter. Respondents were highly supportive of statements like, “There are good reasons to have organizations that look out for the interests of white people.” And when they look at other groups — like black Americans, Muslims, feminists, and journalists — they’re willing to admit they see these people as “less evolved.”

But it’s the degree to which the alt-righters differed from the comparison sample that’s most striking — especially when it came to measures of dehumanization, support for collective white action, and admitting to harassing others online. That surprised even Forscher, the lead author and a professor at the University of Arkansas, who typically doesn’t find such large group difference in his work.

There was a time when psychologists feared that “social desirability bias” — people unwilling to admit they’re prejudiced, for fear of being shamed — would prevent people from answering such questions about prejudice truthfully. But this survey shows people will readily admit to believing all sorts of vile things. And researchers don’t need to use implicit or subliminal measures to suss it all out.

The alt-right scores high on dehumanization measures . .

 

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