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Iraqi Civil War News and Discussions


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Funny thing is it looks like these guys (worse than Nazis in my opinion...) are being funded by traditional American ally Saudi Arabia so we could be looking at an alliance shakeup if America allies with Iran against GCC interests.

Why exactly is Saudi Arabia funding them?
Because the whole decade has been a proxy war between the Saudis and Persians.

Team Saudi (Sunnis): Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, Qatar, Kuwait, Al-Qaeda, Turkey.

Team Iran (Shia, Shia-led and Shia influenced countries): Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, U.A.E., Yemen, Oman.

This will simplify things

No... U.A.E. and Yemen are not members of Team Iran. Oman is also neutral...

Israel is certainly on neither side as well...


Yemen have transitioned into a pro-Iran side in recent years due to continuous Shia rioting and a very weak government.

Dubai, Abu Dhabi and the other ones are definitely pro-Iran due to a huge Iranian diaspora, local trade dominated by Iranian trade, and the leaders having sided with the Iranians in the past (like Saudi's claim on Iranian islands in the gulf).

The Omani leader is the middle man between the western world and Iran. He is the most trusted Arab leader to the Iranians and is definitely pro-Iran.

 

 

No, no, and no... 


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It would be fun if the Pope suddenly decided to call a crusade.


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It would be fun if the Pope suddenly decided to call a crusade.

Highly doubt Pope Francis would do that, especially since there are much holier (than thou) people in the Republican party who will call it.


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It would be fun if the Pope suddenly decided to call a crusade.

Highly doubt Pope Francis would do that, especially since there are much holier (than thou) people in the Republican party who will call it.

 

 

I never implied that it's likely, I only said that it would be amusing.


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It would be fun if the Pope suddenly decided to call a crusade.

Highly doubt Pope Francis would do that, especially since there are much holier (than thou) people in the Republican party who will call it.

 

 

I never implied that it's likely, I only said that it would be amusing.

 

 

I didn't really mean to imply that it was likely, I should have said that Pope Francis doesn't have the personality for such a thing even if the Pope would call a crusade.



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Here is a compilation of the atrocities they have carried out in just the last few days... beyond revolting...

 

http://www.zerohedge...ll-stop-nothing



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This is medieval fuckery.
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This is despicable. Someone has to do something, but so much money and so many resources have been pumped into this horrible place all because of Big Oil's greed.

 

America should stay out, but who am I kidding.



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It's because of Big Oil this happened in the first place.
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Sunni ftw



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The Middle East is definitely a desolate wasteland, in the literal sense. All they have is oil which keeps them relevant in the world of politics but that is starting to become irrelevant in light of new technological advancements that render derivative forms of oil as unnecessary. By then, these people will begin to see the error of their ways as the rest of the world begins to become disinterested in that part of the world as they forage ahead into future. I'm pretty sure smart minds in the Middle East are aware of this but they're trying to figure out how to become philosophical/political leaders so they can make meaningful changes that are sensible to the rest of the world.


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The Middle East is definitely a desolate wasteland, in the literal sense. All they have is oil which keeps them relevant in the world of politics but that is starting to become irrelevant in light of new technological advancements that render derivative forms of oil as unnecessary. By then, these people will begin to see the error of their ways.

The economies of pretty much all of the countries in that area are reliant on Oil, once that dries up what we have seen so far will be a fond summer's dream.



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If the West stopped supporting the rebels in Syria, Assad would probably pretty quickly put ISIS out of business in that country. Which would allow Iraq to do the same in theirs. Assad will have no incentive to do so while these ISIS provide a good cover for him in international limelight while their hostilities make people in Western countries unwilling to give any Syrian rebels any weapons. Pretty brutal strategy. Problem is if the West keeps supplying the moderates ISIS will just grow stronger. 



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New video of them executing dozens of people...

 

http://www.arabnews.com/news/587141



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Seems like Iraq is pressing them back, even Fallujah is under attack by the government now.



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Seems like Iraq is pressing them back, even Fallujah is under attack by the government now.

 

We will see. Bombs are now tearing through Baghdad, and ISIS has captured some other towns. Looks like a full on civil war is coming, back to the good old days of Iraq 2006-2007...



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@MarcZ: Out of curiosity, do you think that ISIS would have still been as successful in Iraq (right now) if the U.S. had kept, say, 10,000 troops in Iraq after 2011 (up to right now)?



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@MarcZ: Out of curiosity, do you think that ISIS would have still been as successful in Iraq (right now) if the U.S. had kept, say, 10,000 troops in Iraq after 2011 (up to right now)?

 

No. But if Maliki hadn't behaved like an idiot there wouldn't have been this problem either. Anyways there are claims that ISIS has massacred nearly 1700 people in the last few days in Iraq in one city alone. 



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CNN has a compliation (not terribly graphic) of some of the absolute insanity this organization is spreading all over the Internet.

 






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