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In a sense, it does appear to be quite a shame that France did not have massively incompetent generals in charge at the start of World War I.



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I expect a world war three

 

This. Nato and Russia are both militarising and still have imperialistic tendencies: sound familiar? And I fear that if this comes to pass, especially in a few decades, China and Russia will crush NATO like a tin can.

 

 

Santa's also going to be visited by Canadian and russian military forces in the north pole. Global warming is creating new access to undiscovered resources.

 

 

Well then, let's hope America has our backs, shall we? I'm sure they will, so long as they get in on the resources.


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I expect a world war three

 

This. Nato and Russia are both militarising and still have imperialistic tendencies: sound familiar? And I fear that if this comes to pass, especially in a few decades, China and Russia will crush NATO like a tin can.

 

 

Santa's also going to be visited by Canadian and russian military forces in the north pole. Global warming is creating new access to undiscovered resources.

 

 

Well then, let's hope America has our backs, shall we? I'm sure they will, so long as they get in on the resources.

 

Well thanks to Alaska the US does have a vested interest in who controls what up there.



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Even better then, because honestly, Russia could walk to the U.S. border if they wanted. Well excluding an intervention by our American neighbours.


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Here's a trench from WWI!

 

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*Modern day


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Here's a trench from WWI!

 

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*Modern day

Holy Moly! I didn't know that there are still large remnants of these trenches left today. Thus, I guess that you learn something new every day. :)



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Didn't all of you notice all those craters? :)


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Didn't all of you notice all those craters? :)

 

I did, the beauty of explosive weapons.



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I'm currently reading quite a bit of Hemingway, so it's all good.


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"It is my view that WWI was the end of civilisation, and we are still trying to recover from that." - Kurt Vonnegut

 

https://mises.org/li...nd-civilization


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France commemorates centenary of WW1 Battle of Verdun

 

France remembers Battle of Verdun, symbol of suffering and resistance

 

100 Years Ago Today: Battle of Verdun starts

 

 

 


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Verdun today
 
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"Today", 1 million shells fired by 1,200 artillery canons will fall on a 5 km² surface near Verdun, killing 10,000 french soldiers in a day.
As much as the U.S. losses in Normandy on the D-Day 30 years later.
But the french army stands still, and tomorrow they will counter attack... "Tomorrow" will be the same butchery, as every other day for the next 8 months to come.
And from that outrageous shit will later grow up Nazism, then finally Europe, because peace was the last thing possible.
My grand-grand father told at the end of his life "we had had no reason to shoot at the germans, and they had no reason to shoot at us. Sometimes at night, we shared food and played cards. Until the time when an officer from a camp or another noticed it and threatened us. Our officers were keeping their distance behind us with a rifle pointed at us, because if they'd been in front of us, we could have shot them down with no regret.


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I was actually just in London a few months ago and visited the Imperial War Museum, and they had a really interesting display about WWI including a recreation of a trench you could walk through (complete with a massive tank rolling over the trench).  We really weren't taught anything about WWI in school, it was all about WWII, so it was fascinating to learn about.  There was also a special on the History Channel a few months ago called The World Wars that basically makes the case that WWI and WWII were basically one war with a break in the middle.  It is well worth watching.    


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Interesting photo of Verdun.

 

I am finding a lot of disturbing parallels between the causes of World War I and the situation we have today.  In both eras, nationalistic feeling was running high.  Prior to World War I, many thought that the invention of the machine gun made the prospect of war so horrible that a world war was unlikely.  Today, nuclear weapons make war even more unthinkable for some. Yet others do not seem to understand how much of a total catastrophe it would be to have a full scale nuclear exchange.  

 

We simply have to find a better way to resolve our differences. I am not trying to point the finger at any one country, as the United States certainly has its share of unreasonable hard liners.  Nor I am suggesting an adherence to the status quo in which the poor stay poor and the rich stay rich.  As the bumper sticker saying goes, if you want peace, work for justice. The poor also need legitimate avenues to struggle for their betterment.

 

If you study history, you realize haw many justifications there have been that served as the basis for war from one generation to the next.  Moreover, you realize how absurd most of those justifications are to the modern ear.  As Eugene McCarthy once quipped, "I am tired of old men thinking up wars for young men to die in."  

 

Today, I find myself to be an old man trying to persuade younger men to stop dreaming up wars for their fellow men to die in.


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http://www.thenation...ing-toward-war/

 

 

 

Whether or not we have slid into a “new Cold War,” as claimed by Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev at the Munich Security Conference on February 13, we certainly have entered a period of escalating provocations, with China, Russia, the United States, and other major powers testing one another’s resolve through a series of military feints. While usually contained below the level of armed combat, these actions—deployment of bombers or warships in or near a rival’s territory, construction of new military bases in menacing locations, aggressive military maneuvers, and so on—naturally invite countermeasures of an increasingly belligerent sort and so increase the risk of war...                                    Where all of this will lead is anyone’s guess. At this point, all that can be said with any confidence is that the frequency and aggressiveness of these provocations is increasing, with each party believing it necessary to respond to its rival’s actions with countermeasures of even greater vigor and boldness. History suggests that such behavior tends to create an atmosphere of ever-increasing tension and suspicion, where one provocation too many can lead to crisis, panic, miscalculation, and a resort to arms—exactly the scenario that led to the outbreak of World War I just over 100 years ago.

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I was actually just in London a few months ago and visited the Imperial War Museum, and they had a really interesting display about WWI including a recreation of a trench you could walk through (complete with a massive tank rolling over the trench).  We really weren't taught anything about WWI in school, it was all about WWII, so it was fascinating to learn about.  There was also a special on the History Channel a few months ago called The World Wars that basically makes the case that WWI and WWII were basically one war with a break in the middle.  It is well worth watching.    

 

Ther are indeed many parallels. I observed many years ago we are experiecing a rerun of 1920-1939, precipitated by greedy banbkers and the lust for power by Germany.

 

The National Socialist parties of the 1930's rose directly as a result of the failures of the left wing governments of the 1920's to control the world economy and prevent the Great Depression.

 

This itself was a direct result of the Federal Reserve, which was formed in 1910 and immediately implemented its Fractional Reserve Banking Fruada, which nearly bankrupted the US government in 25 years,  an exact mirror to the way the greedy bankers of today brought on the 1998 Stocks Crash and thenthe 2008 Stocks and property crash.

 

Another parallel is the mass migration of peoples caused by WW1. Nations function on National Identities , and threatening a national identity is likely to create nationalist fervour. In the same way mass migration today is causing the riuse of nationalism, so it did in the 1920's as a result of WW1

 

Ever since 1870, Germany has had ambitions to rule Europe, the Greater German Empire. The yhad a dream of a german empire extening all the way to asia - they dreamt of the "Berlin to Bhagdad Railway".   Three times the Germans have tried this - the Franco Prussian war, and WW1 and WW2. The EU is but the extension of WW2 by other means. 

 

I have extensively studied history all my life, and I have observed that a) history frequently repeats itelf, because peopel never remember the mistakes of the previosu generations, and b) national characters never change, and the Germans will not be content until they have created the greater German Empire, run by Germany for the "benefit" of all europeans.

 

I have much to say on this subject, if you are interested.


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As for Verdun, it was a pointless battle in what was largely a pointless war.

 

Verdun was a salient with an old stone fort in the middle. It projected out into the German lines. It served no military advantage to either side. To the French, who held it, it was a futile possession, under fire from three sides. The ywoudl have been better  retreating back, and eliminating the salient, and shortening the line. The germans could derive no advantage, the Fort was not on an elevated postion, and offered no advantage. The problem was Verdun became a point of National Honour that France MUST retain Verdun, and Germany MUST take it.

 

Thus over a period of about two years about a million men were ploughed into the meat grinder of Verdun, with battles with huge casualties taking place over literally yards of corridor in the fort. The two armies wore themselves out over Verdun, the Germans never managed to take it, and then a year or so later, the French quietly abandoned Verdun to fall back.  Vast numbers of men died for absolutely nothing.

 

I became fascinated by WW1 and WW2 as a child (I am now 62) and they were wars of very different nature. The finest history of WW1 I ever read was the one written by A J P Taylor. I had many war connections in my family, my Grandfather joined the Navy  in 1916 at age 16, and was at the Battle of Jutland in 1916  and again was Mentioned in Dispatches after the sinking of the Hood in 1941 by the Bismarck.  My father was bombing the japs in Burma at the time ,as ditched in the Bay of Begal, spending several days avoiding Jap Patrol Boats. My G'mother was a Matron on a Hospital Ship anchored of Gibralter, and I had other family members in the Army. the WAAFS, WRENS, WRAF and Land Army. My childhood was steeped in war stories!.


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July 28, 1914

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Outlook, they called you hopeless. You gonna take that?

 

July 31st, 1914

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