Then the US will be a dictatorship but he can't last forever.
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"We all have our time machines, don't we. Those that take us back are memories...And those that carry us forward, are dreams."
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I fucking hate the idea of a second (and third) Trump presidency, but that's not what the quote is saying. They say he should be allowed to run for a second consecutive term, not that the 22nd Amendment should be abolished.
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And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future
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2000s: I'm starving for 3 months
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More news on this: -Time_Traveller wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:03 pm Suella Braverman to appear at National Conservatism conference alongside Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 19609.html21 hours ago
Suella Braverman will appear at a major Conservative conference alongside right-wing Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban next month.
The former home secretary and Mr Orban have been unveiled as a keynote speakers at the National Conservatism (NatCon) conference in Belgium.
Mr Orban is widely seen as Russian President Vladimir Putin’s closest ally in the European Union and has been accused of launching a crackdown on gay rights and press freedom.
Ms Braverman, who was sacked by Rishi Sunak in November after accusing Metropolitan Police chiefs of bias in their handling of the pro-Palestine protests, risks a backlash for appearing alongside the Hungarian prime minister.
Mr Orban has previously spoken at the annual conference of the International Organisation of the Family (IOF), described by the Human Rights Campaign as a “dangerous group of activists spreading anti-LGBT rhetoric and promoting laws and policies that criminalise LGBT people”.
Police order closure of right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 29501.html6 minutes ago
Police in Brussels have stormed a right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman after orders for the event to be shut down.
Local authorities ordered the controversial National Conservatism (NatCon) Conference to be closed to “guarantee public safety”.
Ms Braverman, the former home secretary, and Mr Farage, the former Ukip leader, were among the political names advertised to speak at the event on Tuesday alongside right-wing Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban.
Officers arrived after the event began at the Claridge venue in central Brussels to tell organisers the event would be shut down. According to a report on social media, police arrived while Mr Farage was addressing the event, giving attendees 15 minutes to leave the venue. However, officers did not appear to force the event to shut down and speeches continued.
Police have now said they will not let anyone else into the venue and people can leave and not re-enter.
Oh, how the tides have turned on them.
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I feel like this thread has been talking excessively about the US Republican party to the point of almost totally ignoring the terrifying rise and wrath of the actually Fascist Zionist and Hindutva movements
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The reason why western governments don't take a hard stance on hindutva fascism or zionist fascism is two fold. In the case of India, India is still seen as a good trade partner and a country that could potentially be courted as an ally by the west. Even though it's pretty clear the India is pursuing a policy of independence and is happy to trade with both America and Russia. In Israel's case it's obvious, Israel is an American puppet and America explicitly approves of Israeli policy.
Ideologically there's another component too though. Liberalism opens the door to fascism and it frankly always has, it is the ideological predecessor not fascism's true opponent. Liberalism supports a capitalist market economy and when the contradictions of that capitalist economy show through it has no answers, yet, ideologically, communism, socialism, communalism, whathaveyou are all unthinkable as they would mean the end of capitalism.
Fascism on the other hand doesn't abolish a capitalist market economy and to liberal ideology preserving the great money god is far more important than any of the social values that liberalism virtue signals, hence, liberalism courts and eventually transitions into fascism as capitalism begins to fail as the final ideological reaction of the capitalist mode of production in order to preserve itself. Profitability of the system is temporarily restored in fascist economies through a return to imperialism and capital destruction, destroying the capital base creates artificial conditions of profit on its reconstruction and it is always profitable in a vacuum to steal from your neighbor even though it's inefficient and the whole system remains unprofitable as a race to the bottom occurs.
There's a reason the fascists kill the communists and other leftists alongside whatever ethnic group(s) they target. It's because liberals will broadly fall in line and aren't a threat, the communists are.
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I was thinking just today that maybe this was why Italy and San Marino gravitated towards communism, having seen the horrors of fascism
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Tommy Robinson trial - latest: EDL founder in court after he was arrested at London antisemitism march
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 32463.html1 hour ago
Tommy Robinson is due to appear for trial today after being arrested when asked to leave a rally against antisemitism in central London.
The English Defence League founder had been asked not to attend by organisers and was told he would not be welcome at the demonstration.
He was arrested by police near the Royal Courts of Justice and charged with failing to comply with a direction to leave an area in Westminster.
During his arrest, officers sprayed Robinson with synthetic pepper spray and handcuffed him.
The 41-year-old, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, had previously denied the charge of failing to comply with a dispersal order at Westminster Magistrates Court.
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A Christian ministry urged the Supreme Court to criminalize homelessness
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Yesterday, the Supreme Court heard a case that centers around how cities should deal with homelessness. One of the most striking revelations, however, may have come from a Christian ministry that insisted the homeless need to be converted or punished.
The case involved the city of Grants Pass, Oregon, where there are more homeless people than available beds in shelters. City leaders have chosen to address the problem, not by building affordable housing or additional shelters but rather by fining people hundreds of dollars for using blankets, pillows, or cardboard boxes on the streets. When homeless people accrue multiple fines, they can be banned from public property… literally leaving them with nowhere to go. And if they remain in the city, they can be criminally prosecuted.
A previous legal case already declared those kinds of penalties unconstitutional, amounting to cruel and unusual punishment. So with the help of an attorney, a group of homeless people in Grants Pass filed a lawsuit against the city, saying local ordinances that punished them for basically existing were illegal. After all, they said, they weren’t choosing to live on the streets. There were no other options available to them.
Despite winning their case in lower courts, the city repeatedly appealed the decisions all the way up to the Supreme Court. The question in front of the justices is whether the city should be allowed to criminalize homelessness. It would be a disaster—and just another layer of cruelty—if SCOTUS rules in favor of Grants Pass.
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In otherwords, moving the homelessness problem to another town or city in that state.weatheriscool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:55 pm A Christian ministry urged the Supreme Court to criminalize homelessness
https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/a-chr ... he-supremeYesterday, the Supreme Court heard a case that centers around how cities should deal with homelessness. One of the most striking revelations, however, may have come from a Christian ministry that insisted the homeless need to be converted or punished.
The case involved the city of Grants Pass, Oregon, where there are more homeless people than available beds in shelters. City leaders have chosen to address the problem, not by building affordable housing or additional shelters but rather by fining people hundreds of dollars for using blankets, pillows, or cardboard boxes on the streets. When homeless people accrue multiple fines, they can be banned from public property… literally leaving them with nowhere to go. And if they remain in the city, they can be criminally prosecuted.
A previous legal case already declared those kinds of penalties unconstitutional, amounting to cruel and unusual punishment. So with the help of an attorney, a group of homeless people in Grants Pass filed a lawsuit against the city, saying local ordinances that punished them for basically existing were illegal. After all, they said, they weren’t choosing to live on the streets. There were no other options available to them.
Despite winning their case in lower courts, the city repeatedly appealed the decisions all the way up to the Supreme Court. The question in front of the justices is whether the city should be allowed to criminalize homelessness. It would be a disaster—and just another layer of cruelty—if SCOTUS rules in favor of Grants Pass.
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...that is willing to accommodate them but struggles to. And then they'll go on even more about "portland bad"
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What is really needed is public housing and a government mandate to provide such. The small houses, government trailers and rental assistance is all needed. Keeping people off the street is very important. Of course the losertrians just want to throw people in jail and destroy their lives even more forcing them into more crime and working at the check out at the store 16 hours per day.firestar464 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:52 pm ...that is willing to accommodate them but struggles to. And then they'll go on even more about "portland bad"
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If they rule that Trump has absolute immunity, or anything near that, I'm wondering if Joe should assert those powers himself to deal with the Trump threat. The right can complain to SCOTUS if they don't like it.
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If the court is idiotic enough to grant this power to the president I'd say yes. The right should be very careful!firestar464 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:06 pm If they rule that Trump has absolute immunity, or anything near that, I'm wondering if Joe should assert those powers himself to deal with the Trump threat. The right can complain to SCOTUS if they don't like it.
He then should hand the presidency to harris and not have the election. This country needs a period of cooling off.
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Trump says ‘a lot of people like it’ when he floats the idea of being a dictator
April 30, 2024 at 7:01 p.m.
People don’t seem to mind the idea of former President Donald Trump acting as a dictator, he told Time magazine in an interview that drew swift rebuke from the Biden-Harris campaign.
In a wide ranging interview given to the magazine — and shared by the 45th President Tuesday morning via his Truth Social media platform — Trump was asked to explain comments he made to Fox News host Sean Hannity, in which the former president said he would become a dictator on his first day in office.
“A lot of people like it,” Trump reportedly told Time.
As might be expected, President Joe Biden’s reelection team was quick to note the revelations contained in the interview and respond.
“Not since the Civil War have freedom and democracy been under assault at home as they are today – because of Donald Trump. Trump is willing to throw away the very idea of America to put himself in power,” Biden-Harris 2024 Spokesperson James Singer said in a statement.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2024/04/30 ... -dictator/
April 30, 2024 at 7:01 p.m.
People don’t seem to mind the idea of former President Donald Trump acting as a dictator, he told Time magazine in an interview that drew swift rebuke from the Biden-Harris campaign.
In a wide ranging interview given to the magazine — and shared by the 45th President Tuesday morning via his Truth Social media platform — Trump was asked to explain comments he made to Fox News host Sean Hannity, in which the former president said he would become a dictator on his first day in office.
“A lot of people like it,” Trump reportedly told Time.
As might be expected, President Joe Biden’s reelection team was quick to note the revelations contained in the interview and respond.
“Not since the Civil War have freedom and democracy been under assault at home as they are today – because of Donald Trump. Trump is willing to throw away the very idea of America to put himself in power,” Biden-Harris 2024 Spokesperson James Singer said in a statement.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2024/04/30 ... -dictator/