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[Raklian]

It's really simple. People with "unusual" behaviors (meaning, relatively unusual to society's current conventions) have an unique combination of environmental and neurological factors that make them the way they are. From a biological evolutionary standpoint, not social one mind you, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them; however, our social standards have changed faster than biological evolution was able to keep up - this leads to incongruities between what is socially acceptable and the hard cold reality of the molecular machine of the human body.

 

We are on the cusp of gaining the capability to close the gap between these two realities via gene therapeutics, biotechnology, genome sequencing, cloning, et cetera. As there is no objective right and wrong in the turnings and goings of biological evolution - it has no endgame, no ultimate goal but we enlightened ones know that already - there is no absolute moral authority existing anywhere in the Universe to prevent us from giving people with "mental aberrations" a chance to be treated and be accepted by society at large. Caveat though, it is equally true for those who think these people deserve to rot in psych wards and prisons, or in some cases, get on the death row.

[zEVerzan]

Treatment is what I'm advocating for here, it's the best and only solution to such aberrations. Sweeping them under the rug with appeasement is just ignoring the problem. Glad we can agree on that though.

[Cosmic Cat]

Treatment is what I'm advocating for here, it's the best and only solution to such aberrations. 

 

Prophet Muhammed disagrees. Why do that, when you can get a 6 year old wife instead?

 

Legalize it!

[ddmkm122]

I think that they will never be cured.

[Yuli Ban]

By the way, why is it "illness"? Many mental disorders are very obviously illnesses, and it does no one could denying it.

[ddmkm122]

By the way, why is it "illness"? Many mental disorders are very obviously illnesses, and it does no one could denying it.

Good point, It should just be illness.

[Yuli Ban]

I'm just curious, does the OP think mental illnesses are a hoax?

[kjaggard]

in psychology back when I studied it the dividing line was set at beliefs or conduct which cause stress or harm to self or others.

 

If you are afraid of spiders to the point that you won't leave the house without wearing a beekeepers outfit, it is a stress factor on your life to have that belief and to conduct yourself in that manner. It interferes with ones ability to earn a living and have social interactions.

 

At that point it's pathological.

 

Likewise victimizing or otherwise behaving toward others in a way that causes harm or disruption to their wellbeing, knowingly and with intent, repeatedly is a sign of pathological thinking and behaviour. Thus is a mental illness.

 

Things that do not fit those catagories but are deemed abnormal are usually relegated to being described as deviant, from the longer phrase deviating from the social or cultural norm. Norms are not a voted on or set value system but simply the median value of behavours in a community. (ie Slut-town USA would have a different social/cultural norm with regard to sexual conduct than Prudesville notch, in the former nymphomania would not be deviant as it would be in the latter)

[Yuli Ban]

Yes, that's my point.

I've come across those who seriously believe dementia, schizophrenia, bipolar, etc. are government created hoaxes, so I was just curious.

[ddmkm122]

Wouldn't that mean that Dementia could not exist since it has happened in The UK and you live in The USA?

[Yuli Ban]

*Illuminati.
Illuminati. UN. New world order. Or whatever.

[zEVerzan]

Yes, that's my point.

I've come across those who seriously believe dementia, schizophrenia, bipolar, etc. are government created hoaxes, so I was just curious.

 

To be fair those people were diagnosed with one or all of the above and don't like being told there's something wrong with them, so they blame the Powers that Be.

[Yuli Ban]

Which is a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia.

[ddmkm122]

 

Yes, that's my point.

I've come across those who seriously believe dementia, schizophrenia, bipolar, etc. are government created hoaxes, so I was just curious.

 

To be fair those people were diagnosed with one or all of the above and don't like being told there's something wrong with them, so they blame the Powers that Be.

 

Well, I'd love to be told that even if I was not diagnosed with that but, then again, I think a little differently than most people.

[zEVerzan]

So I found out there are a few studies that affirm the idea that pedophilia is an illness as opposed to yet another sexual preference.

 

Humans are supposed to act in a nurturing way towards children as to ensure the survival of the next generation; these studies have shown pedophiles have weaker/garbled connections in this section of the brain that misinterpret these signals as arousal. They are either born with it, or something happens during their development that causes it.

 

Mind you, it's very hard to perform studies on pedos because the test samples are limited to those that were sex offenders that had been caught. But this means that we are closer to figuring out what causes this aberration, and that we are closer to curing it.

[lechwall]

So I found out there are a few studies that affirm the idea that pedophilia is an illness as opposed to yet another sexual preference.

 

Humans are supposed to act in a nurturing way towards children as to ensure the survival of the next generation; these studies have shown pedophiles have weaker/garbled connections in this section of the brain that misinterpret these signals as arousal. They are either born with it, or something happens during their development that causes it.

 

Mind you, it's very hard to perform studies on pedos because the test samples are limited to those that were sex offenders that had been caught. But this means that we are closer to figuring out what causes this aberration, and that we are closer to curing it.

 

It's always a combination of the two. A very significant proportion of paedophiles were abused themselves as children then the cycle of abuse continues.

[kjaggard]

Myth: People abused as children become abusers.

This is only partly true. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reported that about 30% of adults who were abused and neglected as children will later abuse their own children. However, this “cycle of abuse” is not inevitable. While past abuse is one indicator for future abuse, it is not the only one. Some research indicates that if a child is able to disclose an incident of abuse early on and is supported by people who believe the claim is real, the child is less likely to become an adult perpetrator of abuse.

 

http://archive.cause...ion=infographic

[Durwin01]

I think aspergers is a dangerous mental illness. There are several famous people with aspergers. Well, they do not disclose such problems publically. But these issues are not hidden from the media.

[ddmkm122]

It's really simple. People with "unusual" behaviors (meaning, relatively unusual to society's current conventions) have an unique combination of environmental and neurological factors that make them the way they are. From a biological evolutionary standpoint, not social one mind you, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them; however, our social standards have changed faster than biological evolution was able to keep up - this leads to incongruities between what is socially acceptable and the hard cold reality of the molecular machine of the human body.

 

We are on the cusp of gaining the capability to close the gap between these two realities via gene therapeutics, biotechnology, genome sequencing, cloning, et cetera. As there is no objective right and wrong in the turnings and goings of biological evolution - it has no endgame, no ultimate goal but we enlightened ones know that already - there is no absolute moral authority existing anywhere in the Universe to prevent us from giving people with "mental aberrations" a chance to be treated and be accepted by society at large. Caveat though, it is equally true for those who think these people deserve to rot in psych wards and prisons, or in some cases, get on the death row.

That's an interesting way of looking at it...  It mentions basically the fact that we are all unique.