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[wjfox]

[wjfox]

[10 year march]

I've become convinced without human level Ai capitalism will end due to climate change.

My current political belief is Maoism thirdworldism which I may elaborate on later.

[wjfox]

[caltrek]

This was posted in the Socialism/Communism discussion thread, but it is really about capitalism:

 

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Yuli Ban: In the case of China and Britain, capitalism arose (or almost arose in China's case) without much need for a revolution. In the much more insular nation of France, capitalism was trying to sprout, but the closed aristocracy and absolutist regime stifled it until the bourgeoisie exploited the revolutionary conditions of 1789 to (attempt to) come out on top. And even then, it didn't work until France started industrializing, and by that point, the monarchy had already been restored but was about to fall again.

 

...and what about the United States?

 

Aside from the American revolution, there was also the importance of the attitude toward the land.  After all, there was the model of natives to look toward.  Robert Cushman, writing in 1622, crystalizes this contrast:

 

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(They) do not run over the grass, as do the foxes and wild beats.  They are not industrious, neither have art, sciences, skill of faculty to use either the land or the commodities of it, but all spoils, rots and is marred for want of manuring, gathering, ordering, etc.  As the ancient patriarchs therefore removed from straiter (sic) places into more roomy, where the land lay idle and waste, and none used it, though there dwelt inhabitants by them (as Genesis 13:6, 11, 12 and 34:21 and 41:20) so it is lawful now to take land which none useth to make use of it.

 

[caltrek]

Sort of like persuading people to eat insects...?

[wjfox]

[10 year march]

British capitalism alone has killed 1.8 billion Indians

https://mronline.org...on/#lightbox/0/

[10 year march]

There is no "socialism for execs capitalism for workers"
That is capitalism doing what it is supposed to do

[caltrek]

Global survey finds perception that capitalism is doing more harm than good

 

https://www.japantim...vey-capitalism/

 

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(Reuters) LONDON – A majority of people around the world believe capitalism in its current form is doing more harm than good, a survey found ahead of this week’s Davos meeting of business and political leaders.

 

This year was the first time the Edelman Trust Barometer, which for two decades has polled tens of thousands of people on their trust in core institutions, sought to understand how capitalism itself was viewed.

 

The study’s authors said that earlier surveys showing a rising sense of inequality prompted them to ask whether citizens were now starting to have more fundamental doubts about the capitalist-based democracies of the West.

 

“The answer is yes,” said David Bersoff, lead researcher on the study produced by U.S. communications company Edelman.

 

“People are questioning at that level whether what we have today, and the world we live in today, is optimized for their having a good future.”