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PM defeated over Brexit strategy

 

How is she able to carry on with so much failure? I would have thrown in the towel ages ago. I guess it would be somewhat admirable if eventually, she succeeds, but success is impossible with Brexit. 


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PM defeated over Brexit strategy

 

15 minutes ago

 

Mrs May has promised MPs a final, decisive vote on her Brexit deal with the EU when she has secured the changes to it that she believes MPs want to see.

May's *Final Decisive Vote*--Version 3.0. 


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"Scooby Doo" ending... LOL  :lol:

 

https://twitter.com/...126175049592838

 

 

 

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They really need to extend the Article 50. They really, really truly do.

 

Extending Article 50 is only possible with unanimous agreement from the 27 other EU members.

 

Revoking Article 50 can be done unilaterally by the UK Parliament.

 

Good point.  Revoking Article 50, by  which I understand you to mean re-establishing Great Britain as a full member of the EU, would be a better outcome.  Please correct me if I am wrong about what Revoking Article 50 means.


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They really need to extend the Article 50. They really, really truly do.

 

Extending Article 50 is only possible with unanimous agreement from the 27 other EU members.

 

Revoking Article 50 can be done unilaterally by the UK Parliament.

 

Good point.  Revoking Article 50, by  which I understand you to mean re-establishing Great Britain as a full member of the EU, would be a better outcome.  Please correct me if I am wrong about what Revoking Article 50 means.

 

 

 

Yes, "revoking" would mean cancelling the entire process, effectively pulling the plug on Brexit, resetting the clock back to pre-June 2016.

 

I suspect it's what a majority of people now want, but the country is held to ransom by hard-right and hard-left extremist nutjobs.


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Flybmi collapses, blaming Brexit uncertainty

 

Sat 16 Feb 2019 21.48 GMT

 

The British airline Flybmi has gone bust, cancelling all flights with immediate effect and blaming Brexit as the main cause of its collapse.

The company, which employs 376 staff and operates more than 600 flights a week, said it faced “several difficulties” in recent weeks including spikes in fuel and carbon costs, the latter arising from the EU’s recent decision to exclude UK airlines from full participation in the Emissions Trading Scheme.

“Current trading and future prospects have also been seriously affected by the uncertainty created by the Brexit process, which has led to our inability to secure valuable flying contracts in Europe and lack of confidence around bmi’s ability to continue flying between destinations in Europe,” the airline said in a statement.

“Against this background, it has become impossible for the airline’s shareholders to continue their extensive programme of funding into the business, despite investment totalling over £40m in the last six years. We sincerely regret that this course of action has become the only option open to us, but the challenges, particularly those created by Brexit, have proven to be insurmountable.”

 

https://www.theguard...xit-uncertainty

 

 

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Brexit makes as much sense as when you run a paragraph back and forth through Google Translate in twelve different languages.


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And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.


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Theresa May's government is using 'blanket secrecy' to hide its no-deal Brexit plans

 

LONDON — Swathes of information on how prepared the UK government is for a no-deal Brexit are being deliberately kept secret from MPs, who have spent months trying to little avail to make ministers more transparent on their plans for leaving the European Union.

Since the 2016 referendum, the government has revealed minimal information about the 320-plus "workstreams" which it set up across nearly twenty departments to prepare the UK for a possible n0-deal Brexit on March 29.

These Whitehall units are working on arguably the biggest government project seen since World War 2. However, despite Brexit being just weeks away, MPs have hardly any information on the progress these workstreams.

"It's pretty mad," a source close to government's Brexit planning told Business Insider this week.

"We know next to nothing about government readiness for no-deal and the information we do have is piecemeal... We are six weeks away [from March 29] and we don't know if systems will be ready in time."

https://www.business...kstreams-2019-2


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Theresa May's government is using 'blanket secrecy' to hide its no-deal Brexit plans

 

LONDON — Swathes of information on how prepared the UK government is for a no-deal Brexit are being deliberately kept secret from MPs, who have spent months trying to little avail to make ministers more transparent on their plans for leaving the European Union.

Since the 2016 referendum, the government has revealed minimal information about the 320-plus "workstreams" which it set up across nearly twenty departments to prepare the UK for a possible n0-deal Brexit on March 29.

These Whitehall units are working on arguably the biggest government project seen since World War 2. However, despite Brexit being just weeks away, MPs have hardly any information on the progress these workstreams.

"It's pretty mad," a source close to government's Brexit planning told Business Insider this week.

"We know next to nothing about government readiness for no-deal and the information we do have is piecemeal... We are six weeks away [from March 29] and we don't know if systems will be ready in time."

https://www.business...kstreams-2019-2

I think its wildly optimistic to assume they have a plan and have made preparations and are keeping it secret. 

 

Much more likely they have no plan at all, and they only said all that stuff about preparing for no deal as a bluff because of course​ the EU would cave to all our demands we have the 5th largest economy... etc. etc. 

 

If we had a plan we'd be loudly announcing it to make sure the EU was aware that we are fully committed to no-deal if they don't give in to our demands.

 

Silence at this stage can only mean two things IMO:

1. We have no plan, and no idea what is going on. 

2. We have a plan, but if we were to talk about it the full negative impact of brexit would be obvious, and so we're not going to talk about it till after its too late. 


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There's another huge march planned in London (which I'll be attending), on Saturday 23rd March. Hopefully it beats the 700,000 attendance of last time.



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Realistically, if that march has any impact on the government's direction for Brexit, what actions can be taken in 6 days? is an extension or revocation of Article 50 possible in that time frame?


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I think there is  possibility that:

 

a) The EU will not budge significantly on May's requests.

b) parliament will not support the unaltered deal they have already rejected (maybe twice?)

c) So we're staring down a no-deal

d) Theresa gets no-confidence, and all moderate MPs plus all anti-tory MPS are enough to carry it. We get a new election at the last minute, while the EU agrees to extend by 6 months to let us figure things out.

 

But its equally possible that her supporters will keep stabbing May in the back in every single vote except the ones that might require one of them to solve the problem, so Theresa May gets to continue her performance of the worst job in the world, where she is constantly undermined and disagreed with except when she might escape, and then everyone suddenly rally's round to keep her there, and then goes back to sabotaging her at every opportunity.

 

Brexit might just be some sort of sadistic effort  by conservatives to see if they can drive a PM to suicide while they're still in office.


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