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Russian Official Offers to Unveil Correspondence With US

 

https://www.courthou...ndence-with-us/

 

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MOSCOW (AP) — A top official at Russia’s cybersecurity agency has offered to publish its communications with American counterparts during the 2016 U.S. election campaign.

 

Nikolai Murashov, a deputy head of the Russian National Coordinating Center for Computer Incidents, said Tuesday that the first U.S. official request regarding the hacking into the Democratic National Committee came on Oct. 31, 2016. He said his agency provided specific answers in response to the U.S. query and subsequent requests.

 

Murashov added that his agency was ready to release its correspondence with U.S. authorities if Washington agrees.

 

U.S. prosecutors have indicted 12 Russian military intelligence officers on charges of hacking into Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic Party in an attempt to influence the vote. The Kremlin has denied the accusations.


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How Russian Trolls Boosted Conservative News Outlets in the United States

 

https://www.motherjo...rvative-news-1/

 

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(Mother Jones) Russian internet trolls helped expand the reach of conservative media outlets as part of a Kremlin campaign to influence US politics and sow social discord, according to a new report commissioned by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

 

The report by New Knowledge, a security company that tracks online misinformation, examined Russian digital propaganda efforts over a two-year period starting in January 2015, when the accounts they tracked first began posting on Instagram and Facebook. Its findings include data showing Russian troll accounts on Facebook overseen by the Kremlin-linked Internet Research Agency heavily amplified links from sites including Breitbart, the Daily Caller, and the Washington Examiner, alongside lesser-known outlets like bluelivesmatter.blue, americanmilitarynews.com, and conservativedailypost.com.

 

Such posting patterns match previously known IRA efforts to elevate conservatives including Sean Hannity. Content from conservative outlets resonated heavily with the IRA accounts’ Facebook audience, collectively garnering tens of thousands of engagements and thousands of shares. The only more popular links posted by the IRA were from propaganda sites of its own creation, like blackmattersus.com and patriotsus.com.


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^ ^ ^

Russian infiltrators have done much more than just this! Here is one of (many) lists of their nasty deeds:

 

How Putin's Russia Weaponizes X

 

 
 
Q: What do humor, health information, giant squids, robotic cockroaches, tedium and postmodernism have in common?
 
A: Russia weaponized them.
 
 

 


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From the very first link provided:

 

 

 

The updated list with some 65 issues, ideas and things that Russia allegedly 'weaponizes' will hopefully help to convince people that most of what is said or written about Russia is likewise blatant nonsense.

 

 

I don't see why it would do that. Most seem to be legitimate news stories form reputable sources. 

 

Sure, there are a few exceptions. Lunatic Outpost is a social media site that seems to specialize in discussions of crazy conspiracy theories. Certainly not what most anybody would consider a reputable source. Other topics with an absurd angle include the article entitled "Is Russia Weaponizing the Giant Squid?"  which actually concludes with debunking  a story that Russia was attempting to weaponize the Giant Squid.

 

Other stories describe relatively innocuous activities, supporting judo for example, that talk as if Putin weaponizing something. 

 

While there maybe a few such exceptions, for the most part, these stories offer valid evidence of Putin's efforts to weaponize one thing or another, or otherwise evade responsibility for his actions.  Hardly blatant nonsense.


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From the very first link provided:

 

 

 

The updated list with some 65 issues, ideas and things that Russia allegedly 'weaponizes' will hopefully help to convince people that most of what is said or written about Russia is likewise blatant nonsense.

 

 

I don't see why it would do that. Most seem to be legitimate news stories form reputable sources. 

 

Sure, there are a few exceptions. Lunatic Outpost is a social media site that seems to specialize in discussions of crazy conspiracy theories. Certainly not what most anybody would consider a reputable source. Other topics with an absurd angle include the article entitled "Is Russia Weaponizing the Giant Squid?"  which actually concludes with debunking  a story that Russia was attempting to weaponize the Giant Squid.

 

Other stories describe relatively innocuous activities, supporting judo for example, that talk as if Putin weaponizing something. 

 

While there maybe a few such exceptions, for the most part, these stories offer valid evidence of Putin's efforts to weaponize one thing or another, or otherwise evade responsibility for his actions.  Hardly blatant nonsense.

 

Everything you say is true, but also I bet headlines in the "Russia/Putin weaponises X" form will have a higher click rate than more reasonable headlines about similar issues. Especially among US readers, and more recently UK readers.

 

In the same way "You will not believe what X looks like now" being an incredibly common headline is ​probably not evidence of a grand conspiracy to convince people that celebrities are being replaced with poorly chosen duplicates. 



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Moscow announces arrest of American on espionage charges

 

https://thinkprogres...s-3ff71e2c9e24/

 

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(Think Progress) On Friday, one of Russia’s primary intelligence agencies announced that it had arrested an American for espionage.

 

According to a statement from the FSB, Russia’s successor to the Soviet-era KGB, Russian authorities arrested Paul Whelan in Moscow “during an act of espionage.”

 

The details offered by the FSB’s announcement were scant, and it’s still unclear where Whelan is being held or what exactly he was arrested for. The U.S. Embassy has yet to issue a statement, but the State Department told Newsweek that they have requested consular access. “We have requested this access and expect Russian authorities to provide it,” a State Department spokesperson said.

 

Charges of espionage carry sentences of up to 20 years in Russia.


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NATO Chief Warns Russia on Missile That Threatens Treaty

 

https://www.courthou...reatens-treaty/

 

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(Courthouse News) — Recapping the first meeting of the year by the NATO-Russia council, the secretary-general of the military alliance said Friday that Russia’s unsanctioned missile development threatens the future of a Cold War-era treaty.

 

“All members of the NATO-Russia Council agree that the treaty has been crucial to Euro-Atlantic security,” Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said at a press conference today in Brussels. “But the treaty is now in jeopardy.”

 

Stoltenberg said the Allies are in agreement that Russia’s SSC-8 system, also known as the Novator 9M729, violates the INF Treaty. Short for the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces, the treaty signed in 1987 between the United States and the Soviet Union bans the production, testing and deployment of land-based nuclear and conventional missiles capable of 310-3,400 miles of travel. 

 

Although Moscow has claimed its SSC-8 missile has a range of less than 310 miles, the Pentagon believes it would easily be capable of launching a surprise nuclear strike in Europe.

“The responsibility to preserve the treaty lies on Russia because Russia is now violating the treaty by developing and deploying new missiles,” Stoltenberg said, noting that Russia’s new missiles are hard to detect. 


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There's actually an interesting read from WP that suggested that Russia's intent to ignore the INF treaty was due to the fact that China was exempt from the treaty. This is also one of America's main reasons for jumping out of the INF treaty as well.

 

http://www.washingto...0123104108.html


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Russians are leaking Trump scandals to remind the US president they have leverage over him: MSNBC panel

 

https://www.alternet...im-msnbc-panel/

 

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(Alternet) …Hayes was joined by former CIA analyst Ned Price and Atlantic writer Natasha Bertrand.

 

“If you read the sourcing in the Financial Times, it comes from the Russians,” Price noted.

 

“That leads me to believe this might be the work of the Russians themselves, trickling this out — almost trolling President Trump — reminding him again and again that we have stuff we can hold over your head, let’s work together and how about you find way to make our policy wishes come true or we can make your life more difficult,” Price explained.

 

“It’s pretty amazing, by my count at least a half a dozen times since Trump took office we’ve learned of his interactions with Russian officials from the Russians before we’ve learned it from the Trump administration,” Bertrand noted.

 

“And I think Ned’s point about this particular story being sourced to the Russians is a really important one,” she agreed. “Because just remember, that the Trump administration right now is taking a position on Venezuela that the Russians don’t like and so if they wanted to make the Trump administration look really bad at this moment in time, then doing this and raising more questions about whether or not Trump is compromised — and like Ned said reminding him they have leverage — is a strategic move by them,” she concluded.


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Thats one of the weirdest things about the whole Russian influence thing, If Russia actually was uninvolved, It would make a lot of sense for them to loudly claim to be involved and then sit back and laugh as america tears itself in half surely?  

 

If I was Putin i'd be talking about messing with US elections at every opportunity, especially how easy it was.

 

"Yes, we did manipulate the election, you can do anything with a bit of money in america, Trump is our candidate, we have many lucrative business deals that will begin once he has served both his terms, he is doing extremely well and has fulfilled nearly all of his campaign promises to us.

Yes of course he will get a second term, I have made arrangements"

 

Then to follow up he could talk about how he'd deliberately pushed for a democrat congress in the midterms in order to paralyze the US Govt. 

 

The entire country would catch fire! other great ways Putin could troll the west:

 

"Yes of course I arranged Brexit, we just paid a couple of newspaper owners and editors, set up some facebook pages, and posted a lot of shit on reddit, it was very easy, the British public will believe anything"



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^^^Openly admitting involvement confirm allegations.  Denial gives cover to those who argue that Russia is being unfairly blamed for something it did not do, or did not do as extensively as reported.

 

Meanwhile:

 

US Announces Pullout From Key Arms Treaty With Russia

 

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration said Friday it is withdrawing from a treaty that has been a centerpiece of superpower arms control since the Cold War. Some analysts worry the move could fuel a new arms race.

 

President Donald Trump said in a statement that Russia, “for far too long,” has violated the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty “with impunity, covertly developing and fielding a prohibited missile system that poses a direct threat to our allies and troops abroad.”

 

He said the U.S. “has fully adhered” to the pact for more than 30 years, “but we will not remain constrained by its terms while Russia misrepresents its actions. We cannot be the only country in the world unilaterally bound by this treaty, or any other.”

 

NATO said that if Moscow failed to destroy all new missile systems that Washington insists violate the treaty, “Russia will bear sole responsibility for the end of the treaty.”

 

An American withdrawal had been expected for months, after years of unresolved dispute over Russian compliance with the pact. It was the first arms control measure to ban an entire class of weapons: ground-launched cruise missiles with a range between 310 miles and 3,400 miles. Russia denies that it has been in violation.


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John Bolton is a serial arms control killer

 

https://www.washingt...m=.0b9863b85c04

 

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(The Washington Post) Russia is likely in violation of the INF Treaty. It has deployed missiles near its border with Europe at ranges that exceed those allowed by the agreement. But when someone breaks the law, the answer is not to repeal the law. There are well-established methods for bringing an offending nation back into compliance. Reagan, in fact, negotiated the INF Treaty while the Soviets were in violation of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. He pushed and cajoled them for several years. After signing the INF Treaty, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev relented and shut down the offending radar. We could do the same for the INF Treaty by pushing for an agreement on mutual inspections, as many experts have suggested.

 

But Bolton does not want to fix the treaty; he wants to kill it. “Violations give America the opportunity to discard obsolete, Cold War-era limits on its own arsenal and to upgrade its military capabilities to match its global responsibilities,” Bolton wrote in 2014.

 

America will pay a high price for this rigid ideology. President Trump walking out of Reagan’s treaty is a gift to Russian President Vladimir Putin. It doesn’t fix the problem; it makes it worse. Now, there will be no restraints whatsoever on Putin’s ability to deploy hundreds of missiles, should he desire. The United States will likely be blamed for the collapse of the treaty, widening the split within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Europeans are already shaken by the U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate accord, the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the Iran nuclear deal. This will increase their doubts about U.S. commitment to their security.

 

All this plays into Putin’s hands. It raises serious questions about whether Putin and Trump discussed this in any of their five secretive meetings. Whatever Bolton’s ideological agenda, this is certainly helping not hurting Putin’s Russia.

 

This goes beyond geopolitical advantage. For those who followed the arms race of the 1980s, it feels like déjà vu to again watch countries matching adversaries’ military deployments with their own in a futile effort to overcome or intimidate. And this time, it isn’t just a two-nation race. For some, the real payoff for leaving the INF Treaty is that it will allow the United States to deploy new missiles against China’s medium and intermediate-range missiles, even though we already have multiple ways to target their systems and vastly more nuclear weapons.


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Russia follows US in suspending INF nuclear missile treaty

 

https://www.local10....-missile-treaty

 

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(CNN) - Russia has announced it is suspending participation in the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty -- one day after the US declared it would pull out of the agreement unless Moscow complies with its terms within 180 days.

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the move on Saturday, according to the Kremlin's official website.


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US quitting ballistic missile treaty is ‘a gift’ to Russia

 

https://www.thenatio...russia-1.821731

 

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(The National) After months of mounting rhetoric, the United States finally made good on a promise to leave a historic arms-control agreement with Russia this weekend and the news couldn’t have been better received in Moscow.

 

Washington’s decision to scrap the accord is a “gift,” Russian political analyst Vladimir Frolov told The National. “It kills the treaty Russia hated and puts the blame for this squarely on Washington. Meanwhile, Russia looks like a grown up in the room.”

 

“Who could ask for more?” he asked.

 

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo formally notified Russian officials on Saturday that Washington was suspending its obligations under the 1987 Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty, the only Soviet-era arms agreement still intact today.

 

In response, Vladimir Putin told defense and foreign ministry officials during a televised meeting that Russia was getting out too. "The American partners have declared that they suspend their participation in the deal,” he said. “We suspend it as well."

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Russian Official: Another Nuclear Pact With US in Trouble

 

https://www.courthou...-us-in-trouble/

 

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MOSCOW (AP) — Another U.S.-Russian nuclear pact is in danger following the U.S. move to withdraw from a Cold War-era arms control treaty, a senior Russian diplomat said Thursday.

 

Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov charged that the U.S. refusal to negotiate an extension to the New Start treaty signals Washington’s intention to let it expire in 2021. He warned that time is running out to save the pact, which was signed in 2010 by U.S. President Barack Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.

 

Ryabkov said that the U.S. has shown “no readiness or desire” to engage in substantive talks on extending the pact, which limits each country to no more than 1,550 deployed nuclear warheads and 700 deployed missiles and bombers.

 

He noted that the U.S. said it has converted 56 Trident submarine-launched intercontinental ballistic missiles and 41 B-52H strategic bombers that carried nuclear weapons for use with conventional weapons, but stonewalled Russia’s repeated requests for a verifiable way to exclude their conversion back to nuclear status.

 

“In the worst-case scenario, they may carry 1,286 nuclear warheads,” he said, meaning that the U.S. could nearly double the number of deployed warheads allowed by the New Start treaty.


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The Breakdown of the INF: Who is to Blame for the Collapse of the Landmark Nuclear Treaty?

 

https://futureoflife...nuclear-treaty/

 

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(Future of Life Institute) Last week, a little more than 30 years after it went into effect, the United States announced that it is suspending the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty. Less than 24 hours later, Russia announced that it was also suspending the treaty.

 

It stands (or stood) as one of the last major nuclear arms control treaties between the U.S. and Russia, and its collapse signals the most serious nuclear arms crisis since the 1980s. As Malcolm Chalmers, deputy director general of the Royal United Services Institute, said to The Guardian, “If the INF treaty collapses, and with the New Start treaty on strategic arms due to expire in 2021, the world could be left without any limits on the nuclear arsenals of nuclear states for the first time since 1972.”

 

The INF treaty, which went into effect in 1988, was the first nuclear agreement to outlaw an entire class of weapons. It banned all ground-launched ballistic and cruise missiles — nuclear, conventional, and “exotic”— with a range of 500 km to 5500 km (310 to 3400 miles), leading to the immediate elimination of 2,692 short- and medium-range weapons. But more than that, the treaty served as a turning point that helped thaw the icy stalemate between the U.S. and Russia. Ultimately, the trust that it fostered established a framework for future treaties and, in this way, played a critical part in ending the Cold War.

 

Now, all of that may be undone.


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US pulling out of the INF treaty rewards Putin, hurts NATO

 

https://www.cnn.com/...mith/index.html

 

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(CNN) President Trump could have avoided this by genuinely collaborating with our NATO allies to jointly pressure Russia from the start. Several allies proposed options to address the violation and ensure Russian compliance in an effort to preserve the treaty, according to diplomats who spoke to Reuters on the condition of anonymity.

 

Allies also told our offices directly that the Trump administration blocked NATO discussion regarding the INF treaty and provided only the sparest information throughout the process. And now the US is on the path to complete withdrawal unless Russia complies with the treaty within 180 days.

 

Just weeks after Pompeo announced in December that the US intended to pull out of the INF treaty, then-Secretary of Defense James Mattis issued a strong rebuke of Trump's approach to foreign policy, emphasizing the importance of supporting our allies in his unprecedented resignation letter.

 

"One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships," Mattis wrote. "While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies."

 

By pulling out of the INF treaty, Trump missed an opportunity to make the best use of the world's most powerful alliance and send Putin a strong message -- one with real consequences. As a result, the Trump administration has frittered away its credibility among our European allies who now face the prospect of having new Russian nuclear-armed missiles aimed at them.


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Russian Official: Another Nuclear Pact With US in Trouble

 

Absolutely any "pact" with US will be a big trouble. US is just irresponsible bully, who have no reasons to care about foregn policy, so they can easely break any treaty at any moment for some purely internal (and therefore unpredictable) reasons. "Justifications" of US withdrawal were also very typical and indicative:

 

USA: "No, this is not us who breaking the treaty now, this is Russia! They have a special missile which..."

 

Russia: holds a press conference, shows the missile...

 

USA: "no-no-no... there is nothing that Russia can say or do to change our position"

 

Russia: "btw, USA were preparing for this withdrawal for two years before it was declared... evidence... evidence... evidence..."

 

USA "That's only according to Russia..."

 

That's all.


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Was the US leaving the INF Treaty really a “gift” for Russia?
 
Russia has followed the US in suspending the INF Treaty. Putin has expressed interest in his defense ministry's proposals to create land-based hypersonic missiles, among many other weapons. However, he has said that these plans should not “entail any increase in the Defense Ministry’s budget” and that Russia has no desire to be "drawn into an expensive arms race”: http://fortune.com/2...eaty-suspended/
 
High defense spending was one of the major factors that brought down the Soviet Union. Russia doesn't want to fall into the same trap. 

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^ At the same time, it's always possible it could be one major factor that could bring down the USA too. We're already undergoing severe gridlock, polarization, and an increase in poverty. The trade war won't help us in that regard. If we were to undergo a major recession and another war, I could see the US reaching some level of societal breakdown.


And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.






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