/\ To be fair I liked Phoenix's post because this bit, "How interesting, people already discussing my possible response. But I already said everything I wanted to say in previous posts. You "didn't noticed" them and continue to attribute to me your own thoughts... " is true.
I don't agree with Phoenix's positions 9/10 times given he's a nationalist and I'm an anarchist. But some people here do genuinely ignore him and believe their own propaganda as you pointed out in the absurdity of Putin supposedly being incapable of understanding high school political science.
Of course it was easy to predict his response, as he had already given it before
Yes, some people do believe their own propaganda...
(Too much of a conservative slant for my tastes... but it does raise an interesting point.)
As someone who is not too far from 50 years of age, I have seen Socialism Chic come and go; and all the various flavors of conservatism and liberalism -- and each accusing others of "propaganda".
Interesting article, I think the best bit is this:
conservatives have spent decades painting mainstream liberals as socialists, if not outright communists...
Such rhetoric was meant to stigmatize Democrats; instead, it ended up weakening the stigma of those labels, just like many liberals’ habit of calling mainstream Republicans racist took the sting out of that label and helped pave the way for Trump. When you cry wolf all the time, all you really do is normalize wolves
Although I think the real reason socialism has not been stamped out in spite of the negative examples of people attempting to implement it (or at least claiming that that is what they are trying to do) is simply that the contrast between socialism and capitalism is very simple, and is not really affected by real world events.
Socialism arises from the belief that a group of people, who are altruistic, working together for the good of all will result in the best society we can manage at the moment.
Capitalism is based on the idea that people are incapable of consistent altruism, and so the best way to organise society, is to arrange a system where everyone operates selfishly, for their own benefit, and the system channels this in productive directions.
I personally believe that humans can behave in a consistently altruistic way provided their survival needs are met, and they exist in a society that rewards altruism over selfishness. Which is why effective socialism requires advanced technology and productivity levels high enough to meet everyone's essential needs reliably.
Capitalism encourages selfishness, which is why people seem to get less "honourable" over time, (that and small communities keep people honest, anonymity (of the sort experienced by living in a city of millions) allows people to be assholes and escape consequences...
aaand I've gone way off topic, what were we discussing?!