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This is the right time to create the new thread, because:

 

Revolutionary protests come full circle: Poland's authentic 'maidan' takes mainstream media by surprise

 

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What happened there? That's what:

 

The ruling conservative Law and Justice party have passed a law limiting the number of reporters who have journalistic access to the Sejm (Polish Parliament). This, along with allegations of violations of free speech laws and allegations of trying to integrate Roman Catholic traditions into the civil law of the country have caused some of the most spectacular riots in Poland since 1981.

 

Why is it so symbolic and ironic? That's why:

 

With mass riots in Warsaw, the Polish political elite are getting a taste of their own medicine. Are we witnessing a Polish maidan?

 

The protesters have been accused by the government of trying to stage a coup. Images of angry mobs waving Polish and EU flags, throwing smoke-bombs and blockading Parliament will be very familiar to members of the Polish political elite who encouraged radicals in Kiev to do the same thing in 2014.

 

In Kiev, this of course resulted in an actual coup, in Poland it likely will not go that far, but the political classes in Poland are now feeling the same kind of pressure they put on Viktor Yanukovych and Parliamentarians from the Party of Regions during the Maidan putsch.

 

And this is not just about Poland... this year was full of omens and historical symbolism.



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Sejm always causing trouble, ever since the commonwealth.



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Sejm always causing trouble, ever since the commonwealth.

 

But this time, this is rather the government who causing troubles. Poland was always a kind of semi-foreigner in EU. A member, of course, but not fully sharing "European values" of tolerance, multiculturalism, and so on. Poles were and still are the stubborn nationalists and conservatives, they're not even accepting migrants from the Middle East, can you imagine the bigger sin? What is worse, their current ruling PiS party with its leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski clearly demonstrating the authoritarian stance: for example, they recently reformed the Supreme Court to make it more dependent from the government.

 

Here, another very indicative news demonstrating EU attitude towards Poland:

 

MEPs urge tougher action on Poland

 

Dismayed by the lack of progress in solving Poland's rule of law crisis, some MEPs are demanding that the EU begins formal breach proceedings that could end up with Poland being stripped of voting rights.

 

The "Polish question" was discussed in the European Parliament on Wednesday (14 December), for the fourth time this year already.

 
This time the subject was a new law curtailing the freedom of assembly, as well as the rumours that Poland could withdraw from the Istanbul Convention on the eradication of violence against women...etc
 
 
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For mods: can you change the thread title? I actually meant WATCH, not WACTH...


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For mods: can you change the thread title? I actually meant WATCH, not WACTH...

 

 

Done.


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2016 seems to have a few more tricks up its sleeve before the year is out. 


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Senior Polish Politician: ‘The Jews Are Not Humans, They Are Animals’

The growing trend of antisemitic outbursts among leading Polish politicians and public figures reached new heights this week, when a close ally of the country’s deputy prime minister took to social media to denounce Jews as “animals.”
“Żydzi to nie ludzie to zwierzęta!” – “The Jews are not humans, they are animals!” – an enraged Kazimierz Plotkowski posted on Twitter on Wednesday. The tweet was later deleted, after being captured by several screenshots shared online.
Plotkowski, a successful businessman, is a co-founder and former regional leader of the Polska Razem (“Poland Together”) Party of deputy Prime Minister Jarosław Gowin, and an adviser to the Polish government on energy and mining. The party was founded by Gowin, an outspoken social conservative, in 2013 after he was dismissed from the post of Justice Minister in the previous government.


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https://translate.go...uwarzam?lang=es


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Poland Reverses Supreme Court Purge, Retreating From Conflict With E.U.
Source: New York Times

By Joanna Berendt and Marc Santora
Dec. 17, 2018

WARSAW — Backing down from a showdown with Brussels, Poland’s government reversed its purge of the country’s Supreme Court, as the president signed a law on Monday that will reinstate the judges who had been forced out of their jobs.

It was a remarkable turnaround after months of Poland’s top officials saying they would resist pressure to stop the overhaul of the judiciary. The ruling party, Law and Justice, had put tightening its grip on the courts at the center of its agenda, claiming that it was vital to rid the courts of corrupt judges and Communist-era vestiges.

The European Union sees the changes Poland has made to its judiciary in the last three years as a violation of the bloc’s core values, a threat to the rule of law and the end of judges acting as a check on political power. Last year, the union chastised Poland and took the first steps toward stripping the country of its voting rights in Brussels — a penalty that has never been used against a member nation.

Poland’s concession on the Supreme Court is by no means the end of that conflict between the right-wing, nationalist Polish government and Brussels, but it represented a striking change in tone.

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Read more: https://www.nytimes....reme-court.html



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U.S. says in talks with Poland on troop increase

 

 

WARSAW (Reuters) - The United States is in talks with Poland over Warsaw’s request for more American troops on its soil, but no decision has been taken so far, U.S. officials said on Wednesday, as Washington weighs potential military threats from Russia.

 
Poland asked President Donald Trump last year for a permanent base to complement U.S. troops already present in Poland as part of a rotating NATO deployment in eastern Europe.
 
“We are taking a look at it and I don’t know the ultimate decision we’ll make,” U.S. Secretary of State Pompeo told reporters during a visit to the Orzysz military base in northeastern Poland, part of his tour of central Europe to bolster U.S. diplomatic engagement in the region.
 
“But we will make sure we have not only the right number of troops but the right mix of folks out here to do the work that Europe needs and NATO needs and that America needs,” he said.

 

https://www.reuters....e-idUSKCN1Q21CG



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Lithuania, Poland plan to create council of defense ministers

 

 

VILNIUS - Lithuania and Poland plan to create a council of defense ministers, a presidential advisor said on Tuesday. 

 
"Plans call for creating a council of defense ministers that would convene at least once a year and would oversee our defensive issues," Nerijus Aleksiejunas told Ziniu Radijas, commenting on President Dalia Grybauskaite's upcoming visit to Poland.
 
Aleksiejunas said the visit will focus on defense and security issues, adding that the Lithuanian and Polish presidents plan to issue a joint declaration on security issues. 
 
"Two agreements between the defense ministers will also be signed. One (of the agreements) concerns the exchange of information on airspace surveillance radars and the other is about a certain affiliation of Lithuanian and Polish brigades, a kind of twinning within NATO," he said.  
 
The advisor said this will help the two neighboring countries' brigades to cooperate even more closely in defending the so-called "Suwalki gap", is a land strip of around 100 kilometers on the Lithuanian-Polish border that is wedged between the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad on the west and Belarus on the east. 

 

https://www.balticti...ense_ministers/



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Planning for a US base in Poland gains momentum

 

 

Discussions about a permanent U.S. military base in Poland are moving forward, with a top Pentagon official arriving in Warsaw this week to hammer out details on expanding the American military presence in the country, officials said.

 
Under Secretary of Defense for Policy John Rood is meeting with his Polish counterparts to work on the plan, a top Pentagon official told lawmakers Wednesday. While it could take about six months to finalize, progress was being made, said Kathryn Wheelbarger, acting assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs.
 
“We are working out some of the technicalities,” Wheelbarger said during testimony before the House Armed Services Committee.
 
Last year, Poland offered to spend up to $2 billion toward a permanent U.S. base. U.S. European Command chief Gen. Curtis M. Scaparrotti said Wednesday that he wants a mix of permanent troops and rotational forces in Poland, making perhaps his clearest public comments yet in support of the idea.

 

https://www.stripes....mentum-1.572452







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