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Turkish scientist gets 15-month sentence for publishing environmental study

 

https://www.sciencem...ronmental-study

 

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(Science) A Turkish food engineer and human rights activist was sentenced yesterday to 15 months in jail after publishing the results of a study he and other scientists had done that linked toxic pollution to a high incidence of cancer in western Turkey.

 

Bülent Şık, former deputy director of the Food Safety and Agricultural Research Center at Akdeniz University, was convicted of disclosing classified information after he published the results as a four-part series in a Turkish newspaper in April 2018. “Bülent Şık fulfilled his duty as a citizen and a scientist and he used his right to freedom of expression,” his lawyer, Can Atalay, said in his closing statement before the sentence was handed down by a court in Istanbul.

 

The study was commissioned by Turkey’s Ministry of Health to see whether there was a connection between toxicity in soil, water, and food and the high incidence of cancer in western Turkey. Working for 5 years, Şık and a team of scientists discovered dangerous levels of pesticides, heavy metals, and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons in multiple food and water samples from several provinces in western Turkey. Water in several residential areas was also found to be unsafe for drinking because of lead, aluminum, chrome, and arsenic pollution.


In 2015, after the study was completed, Şık testified that he urged government officials to take action during a meeting to discuss the findings. After 3 years of inaction, Şık testified, he decided to publish his findings in Cumhuriyet, an Istanbul newspaper that has been a high-profile target in the government’s crackdown on media. (Bülent Şık is the brother of Ahmet Şık, an opposition member of Parliament and former investigative journalist at Cumhuriyet who was previously jailed for criticizing the government.)

 

“What is quite striking in this case is that the Ministry of Health did not argue that what Bülent Şık published was not true,” says Milena Buyum, a senior campaigner on Turkey at Amnesty International in London. Instead, Buyum says, the government’s assertion that the information was confidential suggests there was a real danger to health.


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White House: Turkey to invade Northern Syria

Source: Associated Press


WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House says Turkey will soon invade Northern Syria, casting uncertainty on the fate of the Kurdish fighters allied with the U.S. against in a campaign against the Islamic State group.

 

Read more: https://apnews.com/1...r&utm_medium=AP



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White House: Turkey to invade Northern Syria

Source: Associated Press


WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House says Turkey will soon invade Northern Syria, casting uncertainty on the fate of the Kurdish fighters allied with the U.S. against in a campaign against the Islamic State group.

 

Read more: https://apnews.com/1...r&utm_medium=AP

 

 

This is extremely upsetting


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Leftists are divided on this one. Chomsky, for example, thinks it will be a slaughter when the U.S. troops pull out; and perhaps he has been criticized as being a hypocrite. More hard-line Lefists like Ben Norton think the U.S. should pull out, and that the YPG make peace with Syria and then, together, they will fend off Turkey:

https://twitter.com/...111426565513216
 

Incredible propaganda. None of these corporate media reports on the US giving Turkey the green light to invade NE Syria even mentions what the Syrian govt wants in its own territory!

This is sovereign Syrian land occupied by the US, now attacked by Turkey

This report in the empire's newspaper, which obediently quotes dozens of US military and intelligence officials, makes it clear there are 1,000 American troops continuing to illegally occupy Syrian territory.

And they are *not* leaving. They are just moving, to let Turkey invade

The US is illegally militarily occupying a huge chunk of sovereign Syrian territory, in the oil-rich northeast breadbasket region

There is no sign that it is leaving. Washington is just letting Turkey help it further carve up Syria

Meanwhile what actual Syrians want is ignored

The US military occupation has used Syria's wheat supply as a weapon against the government, and millions of civilians

SDF/YPG leadership, which opportunistically relied on the US, has no choice but to finally make an alliance with Damascus to stop Turkey

Pro-war neocon regime-change operative Michael Weiss lets the cat out of the bag, calling NE Syria a "de facto US protectorate" and the YPG/SDF a US "proxy" & "Kurdish janissaries of America"

While he absurdly exaggerates ISIS' remaining strength for fear

The Syrian army, Iran, Hezbollah, and Iraq are perfectly capable of beating ISIS' remnants. They already beat it before

What is really happening is the US, Turkey, & regime-changers all want to prevent Syria from retaking the one-fourth of its territory occupied in the northeast


Such certainty from Ben Norton; nary a doubt in his mind -- such clear-eyed ideology! I guess we're about to roll the die and see how it turns out. Will the Kurds get slaughtered, and Chomsky proved right? Or will other Leftists like Norton win the game?

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For their part, conservatives are also divided:

 


Lindsey Graham turns on Trump over Syria withdrawal: ‘ISIS is not defeated. This is the biggest lie being told by this administration’

 

https://www.alternet...administration/

 

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(Alternet) Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) took to Fox News on Monday morning to harshly criticize President Donald Trump’s decisions to pull U.S. military forces out of Syria putting America’s Kurdish allies at risk of being slaughtered by Turkish forces.

 

Graham began by making a statement on Twitter, writing, “I don’t know all the details regarding President Trump’s decision in northern Syria. In process of setting up phone call with Secretary Pompeo. If press reports are accurate this is a disaster in the making, ” before adding, “Also, if this plan goes forward will introduce Senate resolution opposing and asking for reversal of this decision. Expect it will receive strong bipartisan support.”

 

According to CNN’s Jim Sciutto, Graham went further on Fox & Friends, saying the South Carolina Republican also stated: “ISIS is not defeated. This is the biggest lie being told by this administration.”


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'POTUS went rogue': Trump's Syria move blindsides national security leaders

Source: Politico


The White House announcement upended military and State Department plans to deter a Turkish offensive with a system of safe zones and joint patrols that were getting underway. And it bucked views by top officials that the Turks’ threat of an incursion against the Kurds was a bluff, according to current and former defense officials and people familiar with the U.S. government’s efforts to forestall a new Turkish military operation.

"Everyone was absolutely flabbergasted by this. I tell you that as a fact," retired Adm. James Stavridis said Monday on MSNBC, describing what he saw as the view from the Pentagon. "Nobody saw it coming, and that is a real problem when you're trying to conduct not only foreign policy ... but also military operations. That kind of whipsawing effect is extremely detrimental, not only in this tactical situation, but strategically as our planners try and prepare in other theaters, from North Korea to Afghanistan."

A person familiar with the U.S. government’s policy deliberations on the issue said Trump is operating against the advice of his national security leaders — noting that Sunday night's announcement came just three days after Defense Secretary Mark Esper spoke by phone with Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar.

“POTUS went rogue," the person said. "It’s not too surprising for those of us who’ve been following him, but it was a surprise and went against what Esper was talking to Akar about.”

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Read more: https://www.politico...-leaders-037958



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'POTUS went rogue': Trump's Syria move blindsides national security leaders

 

I don't even know how to comment... so I'll just leave it here:

 

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And no, such hysterical threats can not intimidate anyone. On contrary, they'll only convince the US "allies" to be careful and stay away from once behevolent and invincible but now clearly weakening and demented hegemon.



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I will not post links (each of you can find a lot of them) but, from what I've read today, the Turkish "Operation Peace Spring" in North Syria will begin within few days.

 

1) US troops retreated from "observatons points" on Turkish border. Once again, Kurds were left alone and blaming their US "friends" for "treason".

 

2) Turkish vehicles amassed near the border and Turkish artillery began to shell Kurdish positions.

 

3) His Divine Majesty Trump warned Turkey to not "go beyond limits" established by "his great and unmatched wisdom".

 

4) What's even more pathetic, Kurds are humbly asking Russia and Syria for protection. Just a few days ago, they were proudly rejecting any attempt of negotiation. The history repeats itself, but Kurds seem to be unteachable (see item 1).



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Turkey coordinating impending Syrian invasion (Kurdish area) with Russia. Surprise!
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A bad situation in Northeast Syria is about to get much worse. Sources tell me that US officials have just informed the Syrian Kurds that Turkey is likely to attack on air and ground in next 24 hours. The US will do nothing. Targets are Tal Abyad and Ras al Ayn....



..Ironically Tal Abyad was the main supply route for ISIS in 2014-15 through an open border from Turkey. Turkey refused repeated requests from US to shut border. That's a big reason why US decided to partner with SDF, which took the town in the summer of 2015.

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...I'm also told that Turkish attack appears coordinated with the Russians. Russian-backed forces are mobilizing to invade the Kurdish area from the south — towards Tabqa and other spots. Meanwhile, ISIS is mobilizing sleeper cells in Raqqa and attacks have taken place tonight.

 

 


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Turkey coordinating impending Syrian invasion (Kurdish area) with Russia. Surprise!

 

But why "surprise"? Turks are closely cooperating with Russia, this is their official strategy. And this is not secret at all.

 

Now about Kurds. They may be the "great warriors" (actually not) but they are, at the same time, the unteachable bonehead diplomats. Russia tried... yes, sincerely tried to negotiate with them. But all these attempts were proudly rejected: "Get out! Until America on our side, we're invincible!"

 

Such was their choice. And now, can you name at least one rational reason for Russia to prevent one US "ally" (Turkey) from decimating other US "ally" (Kurds). Or, even better, to prevent USA from kicking Turkey out of NATO?

 

...and yes, NOW Kurds are ready to "negotiate" with Syrian government and Russia and even asking us for "protection". What's more pathetic than that?



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Turkey begins military offensive in Syria, Erdogan announces

https://www-m.cnn.co...-hnk/index.html

And what does the far-Left have to say?:

https://mobile.twitt...741723959074817
 

This is the official account of the SDF (the Kurdish-led group in northeast Syria) praising the US and saying it "proudly" fights in alliance with the US empire "because of America's strength and values."

So many "leftists" fell for their PR campaign.
#Anarchists4USImperialism


Is Norton thinking, "Bubye, assholes!"?

And Max Blumenthal thinks, "It's all good," because he re-tweets:

https://mobile.twitt...491852622651393

"We are considering to partner with Bashar al-Assad to defend NE Syria against a possible Turkish incursion following US' failure to fulfill their commitments." - SDF Gen. Mazloum Abdi
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This is the official account of the SDF (the Kurdish-led group in northeast Syria) praising the US and saying it "proudly" fights in alliance with the US empire "because of America's strength and values."

 

"Strength and values?.."

 

Here they are, the values:

 

Turkey has launched a long-threatened military operation in northeast Syria to remove Kurdish-led forces from the border area and create a "safe zone" to resettle millions of Syrian refugees.
 
The move came after the United States announced it was withdrawing its troops from the region, effectively abandoning the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), its main ally in the battle against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS) armed group.
 
The SDF, led by the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG), has denounced Washington's move as a "stab in the back".

 

Exactly what I meant by "unteachable boneheads". Now they're screaming about "stab in the back" from their "great American friend", which suddenly (only for them, not for others) stepped aside and left them face-to-face with Turkey...



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'POTUS went rogue': Trump's Syria move blindsides national security leaders

 

I don't even know how to comment... so I'll just leave it here:

 

19404166-7546419-image-a-38_157046552426

 

And no, such hysterical threats can not intimidate anyone. On contrary, they'll only convince the US "allies" to be careful and stay away from once behevolent and invincible but now clearly weakening and demented hegemon.

 

That fucking tweet, tho....


And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.


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Trump: "We will define the humane way" of Turkey's invasion of Syria "as we go along."
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Trump was asked about a proposal by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) to impose sanctions on Turkey over their invasion of Syria.

“I think that is ok. I already told that the President Erdoğan — far more than sanctions, I will do more than sanctions,” Trump argued.

“Lindsey and I feel differently, I think Lindsay would like to stay there for the next 200 years, maybe add a couple hundred thousand people every place. But I disagree with him on that. But I will tell you that I do agree on sanctions. But I actually think much tougher than sanctions, if he does not do it in a humane way,” Trump argued.

“What is the humane way, what does that mean?” a reporter asked.

“We will have to define that as we go along,” Trump replied. “He could do it in a soft manner, or in a tough manner. If he doesn’t unfairly, he will pay a big — does it unfairly, he will pay a big price.”

 



https://www.rawstory...hat-that-means/


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Trump Says ISIS Fighters Will Likely Flee to Europe

October 9, 2019 at 4:29 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 21 Comments

https://politicalwir...y-go-to-europe/

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When asked if he was concerned that Islamic State fighters would be able to escape because of Turkey’s military operation in Syria, Trump predicted that the militants would not travel to the United States, CBS News reports.

Said Trump: “They’re going to be escaping to Europe.”

His comment was apparently meant to reassure Americans.

 



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US, Russia veto UN Security Council statement on Turkey's op in Syria.

Source: DS


The U.N. Security Council failed to agree on a statement on Turkey's counterterrorism operation in Syria at a closed meeting to discuss the action Thursday.

The U.S. and Russia vetoed a statement by five European members — France, Germany, Belgium, Britain and Poland — condemning the operation.

The five European council members who called Thursday's meeting — there are 15 member countries — urged Turkey in a joint statement afterward "to cease the unilateral military action." They claimed the operation threatens progress against the Daesh terrorist group, despite one aim of the operation being to clear any remaining Daesh terrorists from the region.

Russia's U.N. Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia, whose country is a key ally of Syria's Bashar Assad, told reporters that any council statement on Syria must address broader issues, including the presence of foreign forces in the country.

 




Read more: https://www.dailysab...t-statement-on-



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Turkey Bombs US Special Forces in Syria Attack, Apparently By Mistake
Source: Newsweek


A contingent of U.S. Special Forces has been caught up in Turkish shelling against U.S.-backed Kurdish positions in northern Syria.

Newsweek has learned through both an Iraqi Kurdish intelligence official and senior Pentagon official that Special Forces operating in the Mashtenour hill in the majority-Kurdish city of Kobani fell under artillery fire from Turkish forces conducting their so-called "Operation Peace Spring" against Kurdish forces backed by the U.S. but considered terrorist organizations by Turkey.

The senior Pentagon official said that Turkish forces should be aware of U.S. positions "down to the grid." The official could not specify the exact number of personnel present, but indicated they were "small numbers below company level," so somewhere between 15 and 100 troops.

The incident came as Defense Secretary Mark Esper assured reporters that up to 50 Special Force Operators had been repositioned from "two small outposts" near the Syrian border as Turkey commenced a unilateral operation opposed by the Pentagon. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had long warned he would storm the border to establish a so-called "safe zone" and, after the White House announced Sunday that U.S. troops would stand aside, he launched the operation earlier this week.

 



Read more: https://www.newsweek...-turkey-1464727


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"Ms. Hevrin Khalef was reportedly dragged from a vehicle and shot to death. That's a war crime."
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Brett McGurk ✔ @brett_mcgurk

Turkish state-backed media hails a “successful operation” to “neutralize” an unarmed 35-year old woman working to unite Arabs, Christians, and Kurds in NE Syria. Ms. Hevrin Khalef was reportedly dragged from a vehicle and shot to death. That’s a war crime.

Yeni Şafak ✔ @yenisafak

Terör örgütü PYD’nin Suriye’deki siyasi uzantılarından Suriye’nin Geleceği Partisi’nin Genel Sekreteri Hevin Halef, başarılı bir operasyonla etkisiz hale getirildi. https://www.yenisafa...tirildi-3510133

4:11 PM - Oct 12, 2019


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Turkish-led forces film themselves executing a Kurdish captive in Syria

Source: Washington Post



BEIRUT — Videos posted on social media showing at least one execution-style killing have called into question the discipline of the soldiers engaged in Turkey’s near week-long effort to seize territory controlled by Kurds in northeastern Syria.

The most gruesome and explicit of the videos shows Turkish-allied Syrian fighters pumping bursts of automatic fire into the body of a bound man lying on the side of a desert road as a gunman shouts to his comrades to take his phone and film him doing the shooting. Another trembling, handcuffed man crouches on the opposite side of the road as the shooting erupts. “Kill them,” one man is heard shouting.

The video is one of a series of photographs and videos posted on Twitter accounts of the Turkish-backed rebel groups and circulated by the U.S.-allied Syrian Democratic Forces that suggest some of the Syrian rebels participating in Turkey’s offensive to capture territory in Syria might have committed war crimes.

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Another fleeing pig has been liquidated by the hands of the National Army,” one of the fighters says as the others clamor to be filmed. “He was fleeing in an armored car.”

 

Read more: https://www.washingt...4732_story.html



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Turkey's Erdoğan says he won't meet with Pence and Pompeo

Source: axios



Jonathan Swan, Rashaan Ayesh 1 hour ago



Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan told Sky News Wednesday that he will not meet with Vice President Mike Pence, who is currently leading a delegation with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Turkey to discuss a ceasefire in northern Syria.

Why it matters: Erdoğan, who told the outlet that he will only meet with President Trump, is facing increasing international pressure over his decision to launch an offensive strike against U.S.-allied Kurdish fighters in northern Syria.

Our thought bubble: While Erdoğan may be facing international pressure, the offensive and his defiance of the U.S. is clearly playing well domestically right now.

Trump administration officials tell Axios they are banking that his position will change if and when Turkey’s economy starts suffering the way it did last time Trump hit the country with sanctions to secure the release of American pastor Andrew Brunson.

Behind the scenes: Trump has gloated to advisers that he broke Erdoğan during the Brunson negotiations — that he hit Turkey "so hard" with sanctions and drove its economy down........................................

 

Read more: https://www.axios.co...eabf512167.html







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