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2017 UK General Election News and Discussions

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Really, a Tory-DUP deal would be more than a Coalition of Chaos— it would be a Coalition of Troubles.

Theresa May's desperate deal with the DUP could have terrifying implications for peace in Northern Ireland

Theresa May's desperate deal with the Democratic Unionist Party could have some chilling effects on peace in Northern Ireland, it has been claimed.
The Good Friday Agreement, which helped bring an end to decades of conflict in 1998, promises "rigorous impartiality" from the UK government over any disputes in Northern Ireland.
But critics are now asking how Theresa May's government can honour this pledge if she joins forces with the DUP - a fierce opponent of Sinn Fein - in Westminster.


I honestly can't believe we're even having this discussion right now. Would you have believed on April 19th that this general election could have possibly gone so terribly wrong?


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Man, Brexit has just been one huge shitshow. It's like some sick nightmare the UK can't wake up from;  it just keeps getting worse and worse. I wonder, do Brexit politicians truly believe that Theresa May's post-Brexit Britain is "Strong and Stable"? Because if they do, I wanna know what shit they're taking. Unstable, minority Tory government to negotiate with a EU that is more unified than ever? Check. Delayed Brexit talks likely to result in a shit deal for the UK, or no deal? Check. British economy going to shit? Check. Possible return of The Troubles? Check. 

 

I'm not British, so really, my opinion doesn't count for shit, but f*ck me if Brexit hasn't screwed the UK over royally.


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Really, a Tory-DUP deal would be more than a Coalition of Chaos— it would be a Coalition of Troubles.

Theresa May's desperate deal with the DUP could have terrifying implications for peace in Northern Ireland

Theresa May's desperate deal with the Democratic Unionist Party could have some chilling effects on peace in Northern Ireland, it has been claimed.
The Good Friday Agreement, which helped bring an end to decades of conflict in 1998, promises "rigorous impartiality" from the UK government over any disputes in Northern Ireland.
But critics are now asking how Theresa May's government can honour this pledge if she joins forces with the DUP - a fierce opponent of Sinn Fein - in Westminster.


I honestly can't believe we're even having this discussion right now. Would you have believed on April 19th that this general election could have possibly gone so terribly wrong?

 

I hadn't hoped for anything this great! I thought May would win, at best with a smaller majority, and then she would execute the hardest Brexit possible, and use the economic consequences to justify privatizing the NHS and anything else she can sell off to her buddies, before finally being pulled down by center/right wing "New" labour party after everyone has abandoned any attempt to do anything left wing in favour of stopping them at any cost.

 

This is much better. Also it exposes how stupid our electoral system is which is good cos we really do need it changed if we're every to have democracy in this country. 

 

 

So couple Brexit negotiations with certain defeat and you basically have an England that's stuck with an unstable, ultraconservative government until further notice.

Don't underestimate Tory chances in the next election, They own most of the newspapers, just look at the headlines on election day! Even left wing papers have spent the last year+ trashing Corbyn. After getting rid of May, If they called an election and actually bothered to campaign this time they could easily win it, remember even screwing up everything they still came within a few seats of a majority and remain the largest party. 

 

The whole Ireland situation, i was not expecting. My hope is no one will do anything drastic before Brexit, as they'll be waiting to see what sort of border ends up being placed. If people do wait and see, then May & the DUP should be out of power pretty quickly, so maybe we can avoid a return to the bad old days. 


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One of the hallmarks of authoritarianism is the state using wide, sweeping, and unenforceable laws to de facto criminalize large swathes of the population. These laws can then be selectively applied to punish undesirables.

 

But MayNet is nothing like that, citizen! Now keep using your Daily Mail-run internet to be a good Briton and be sure to bow your head to your local Lord and/or Lady!


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I think if you replaced John Hurt with Helen Mirren, V for Vendetta would be a more realistic film right about now


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Labour now has a six-point lead over the Tories, new poll finds

 

Labour is now ahead of the Tories for the first time since Jeremy Corbyn became leader, a new poll has found. 
 
Mr Corbyn’s party is now polling at 45 per cent, six points ahead of the Tories who are lagging behind on 39 per cent. The Survation poll, conducted for the Mail on Sunday, shows a swing of eight points in Labour’s favour since the general election on 8 June.
 
Labour has now overtaken the Tories despite being more than 20 points behind when Theresa May first called for a general election.

 

 


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This election result was the best possible scenario that Corbyn could have hoped for.

 

By exceeding everyone's expectations he has the momentum, changed the public perception of his leadership qualities and help unify the Labour party. 

 

The Brexit deal is inevitably going to be bad regardless of the party making the deal -  the Conservatives are doomed to fail. I think Labour have dodged a bullet with this.

 

And when you combine this with Theresa May's falling approval ratings, an unstable minority government and uneasy coalition with DUP crackpots - I think Labour could win a sizable majority in the next election.


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London’s Deadly Fire Puts Pressure On Prime Minister Theresa May
The blaze has led to anger at the government and a debate over public safety.
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British Prime Minister Theresa May is facing pressure for what critics describe as a lackluster response to a deadly apartment block fire in London this week. The blaze, at Grenfell Tower in the western part of the city, killed at least 17 people.

May made a private visit to the scene on Thursday, but did not meet or speak with victims. The prime minister’s closed-off visit drew the ire of media and some residents of the apartment block, who accused her of not giving proper attention to the tragedy.

May has ordered an investigation into the fire, the precise cause of which is unknown. Opposition Labor Party officials, victims and media have accused her government of ignoring longstanding issues around safety in public housing. May’s underwhelming response to the Grenfell Tower disaster is the latest in a series of public relations errors, which have given her political opponents an opening to argue that they are better able to connect with British citizens.

 

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Theresa May's personal ratings plummet as support for Jeremy Corbyn surges

15 June 2017

 

Theresa May personal ratings have plummeted while Jeremy Corbyn's popularity has surged since the General Election, according to the latest poll. 

The Prime Minister's net favourability score has  fallen from +10 in April to -34 , which is the level the Labour leader was on in November last year.

63 per cent of people surveyed by YouGov had an unfavourable view of the Tory leader, compared to just 29 per cent who said they had a favourable view.

YouGov’s latest figures show Mr Corbyn has secured his highest score to date after his popularity ratings surged from -42 in late April to +0.

 

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It's all over for Theresa. Shame she never had to put herself in this position if she hadn't called the election. Probably could have politically survived the fire disaster too but now all is too late and she will probably be forced out. Possibly even before she has had a full year in. Who will replace her? Certainly not Boris Johnston who is also now damaged goods not just since Brexit but with the fire video as well. Leadsom maybe, at least she went to meet people at the fire site? 

 

Lol... Labour will sweep the next election. What a trainwreck. 


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It's all over for Theresa. Shame she never had to put herself in this position if she hadn't called the election. Probably could have politically survived the fire disaster too but now all is too late and she will probably be forced out. Possibly even before she has had a full year in. Who will replace her? Certainly not Boris Johnston who is also now damaged goods not just since Brexit but with the fire video as well. Leadsom maybe, at least she went to meet people at the fire site? 

 

Lol... Labour will sweep the next election. What a trainwreck. 

 

Also she could be the shortest serving PM in office in modern times I think but could be wrong. Since George Canning in 1827.


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Form an American perspective, I find all of this rather encouraging.  I mean if the Tories are about to go down the toilet, then what about Trump and the Republicans?

 

Maybe all of these doom and gloom forecast will turn out to have overstated the problem. First, were elections in European counties of lesser size where the left won.  Then, the center held in France.  Now this.

 

A Socialist win in Germany is probably too much to hope for, but some corrective to Angela Merkel's policy of austerity is probably needed.  

 

Think of your economy as a house.  You can save up enough funds over time to finally afford to build yourself a house, or you can go into debt in order to buy a house immediately.  If you time the housing market correctly, borrowing can actually make far more sense.  

 

One of things I discovered when I started renting out my former home was that I could depreciate the cost of that building on my taxes, while also writing off repair expenses.  This, in a market where the value of my real estate continues to grow.  Yet another way that the rich get richer, while the poor, who are often forced to pay exorbitant rents, stay poor.  Merkel is just taking advantage of being in a very rich country. Of course, counties like Greece need to improve on their collection of taxes from the tax evaders. Evaders who are often some times quite wealthy individuals.  Such evaders make it very difficult for Greece to borrow funds needed for things like infrastructure improvements.

 

But I digress....except that this is all a part of why the European Union has hit a rough spot.


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Oh my GOD.

OH MY FUCKING GOD

Theresa May chased from church as angry crowd brands Prime Minister a 'coward'

She came to try to make up for her mistake but it only served to enrage this close-knit community even more.

Theresa May had provoked widespread criticism and anger on Thursday after failing to visit the victims of the Grenfell Tower firewhen she came to the Westway road – staying for 15 minutes and swerving any contact with locals.

On Friday afternoon, word spread she was due to come back, this time to visit St Clement’s Church, where volunteers had been boxing up donations. Before long a crowd had gathered, filling the street outside the church.

As they waited, the people became increasingly hostile, shouting at her to come out and face them. One man began chanting: “Get her out! Get her out!”, while another screamed at police barring the door to the church: “Why have you brought her here? If she cared she would have come yesterday.”


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HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS. BADLY. Oh my GOOOD.

Brexit: 2018 Queen's Speech cancelled by government

There will be no Queen's Speech next year to give MPs more time to deal with Brexit laws, the government says.
Leader of the Commons Andrea Leadsom said the next parliamentary session was being doubled in length to two years.
The highly unusual move would allow MPs to scrutinise "substantial amounts of legislation", she said.
This year's Queen's Speech was due on Monday but has been put off until Wednesday as Theresa May's minority government seeks a deal with the DUP.
The last time it was cancelled was in 2011 by the then Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government.
That decision, the first time it had been taken since 1949, was criticised at the time by Labour as an "abuse of power" aimed solely at easing the passage of controversial legislation.


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Grenfell survivors told they will be declared "intentionally homeless" if they refuse relocation outside of London, survivor says they are being pressured to move as far north as Preston.
 

 

 

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The reactions to May's government and to Brexit may do more harm than Brexit itself.







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