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2017 UK General Election News and Discussions

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Here's hoping for a surprise result....

 

I don't get why conservatives even have a chance at holding onto power after 3 attacks and destructive policies....What is wrong with people?



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CON 41.3
LAB 40.4
LD 7.8
UKIP 2.4
SNP 3.6
PC 1.7
GRE 2.3
OTH 0.5

SAMPLE SIZE 2798 F/W 6-7TH JUNE

 

really hope Labor can over perform!



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I don't expect a Labour victory. Part of me doesn't even want a Labour victory. I just hope for there to be a hung parliament. Anything to screw up Brexit and the Tories' psychotic science-climate plans.


And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.


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It looks very very likely that the Conservatives will just about win. This time I hope the polls are wrong.



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I don't get why conservatives even have a chance at holding onto power after 3 attacks and destructive policies....What is wrong with people?

 

Our mainstream media decides the elections – not the people.

 

Over the years, a relentless barrage of hatred, fear and bile (chiefly directed at immigrants and other minorities) has turned large swathes of the population into mindless zombies, programmed to vote against their own interests.

 

Added to which, the Baby Boomers are traditionally more conservative, and they vote in overwhelming numbers, while young people tend to just stay at home.

 

 

 

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I don't get why conservatives even have a chance at holding onto power after 3 attacks and destructive policies....What is wrong with people?

 

Our mainstream media decides the elections – not the people.

 

Over the years, a relentless barrage of hatred, fear and bile (chiefly directed at immigrants and other minorities) has turned large swathes of the population into mindless zombies, programmed to vote against their own interests.

 

Added to which, the Baby Boomers are traditionally more conservative, and they vote in overwhelming numbers, while young people tend to just stay at home.

 

It's depressing. I'm shocked that almost everyone I know hasn't read each of the major parties manifestos. If most people actually read the policies of each party I am certain that the Conservatives would lose over half their voters. Sadly most peoples minds are completely controlled by these headlines.


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It should be illegal for newspapers or large companies to publicly back or endorse a political party.

And why don't we get a thing going where everyone who can vote is sent an itemized version of all the parties manifestos in the post?



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It should be illegal for newspapers or large companies to publicly back or endorse a political party.

And why don't we get a thing going where everyone who can vote is sent an itemized version of all the parties manifestos in the post?

 

 

That assumes someone in power wants fair elections from a well informed population. Which is not the case.

 

This is the same reason why there is no advertising standards organisation for politics, and why so much of the leave campaign (and to a slightly lesser extent, the remain campaign) was just lies but there were no negative repercussions to anyone for their lies.

 

Remember the whole UK voting system is designed to allow 30-40% of the population to lock down parliament and rule unopposed. (in order to avoid the "instability" of a government needing to get support for the laws it passes from outside of it's loyal party members).

 

Both labour and conservative parties have worked hard over the years to prevent us moving to any more democratic system, so its not a left/right thing, its a "this system gives an advantage to the two largest parties" thing.

 

Most of the time voting for anyone except the top two is wasting your vote. 

 

Of course if another party ever pulls ahead and becomes the opposition to whoever is in power at the time then its in their interest to keep the current system too so don't hold your breath waiting for that to change. 

 



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Hearing reports that voter turn out is the largest its been in 25 years.... that can only be good news.


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And what about mighty and elusive Russian hackers? Will they dare to derail this triumph of democracy? I'm very worried...



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I'm not sure our voting technology is advanced enough to be hacked.

 

I mean, obviously the Russian govt. can (and do!) hack anything, but for this election its going to be easier for them to just use their mind control satellites.  



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*sends bears in the election day*

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This website has a magic that makes people draw back here like moths to light.


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General election 2017 live: polls show Tory lead as final hours of voting get under way

 

Obviously, the race isn't run yet, but Tories appear to be in the lead so far.



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The Tories have been in the lead for years. That's not at all surprising.


And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.


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Just got back from the polling station. I voted Green. :)


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Just got back from the polling station. I voted Green. :)

 

But why not Labour (taking into account your views)? With British electoral system, as far as i understand it, most of votes for minor parties are just vasted.



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To be fair, it's not like in the US where winner-takes-all. If Labour does well enough and there's a clear opportunity to take, they could form a coalition minority government with Greens, LibDems, SNP, and whatnot. 


And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.


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I live in a Labour stronghold (MP is Chuka Umunna), so there's less than 0.1% chance of the Greens winning here, but they represent my views on the environment, Brexit, and most other issues, so I gave them my support.

 

Why should I vote for a party that will go through with Brexit and take us out of Europe? Corbyn's deliberately lacklustre campaign during the referendum last year, and his subsequent lack of opposition to this madness was, and is, unforgiveable.


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Reports of students from Keele University being turned away from polling stations, despite being registered.

 

Newcastle-under-Lyme, Labour won by 650 votes from Tories last time out.

 

 

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Just got back from the polling station. I voted Green. :)

 

But why not Labour (taking into account your views)? With British electoral system, as far as i understand it, most of votes for minor parties are just vasted.

 

 

You know, that is usually true. In BC we have three major provincial parties (separate from the federal parties); BC Liberals (actually centre-right), BC NDP (centre-left), and Greens (centre-left). We used to have an actual Conservative Party, but they never really gained ground and fell apart. There are 87 seats in the BC Legislature, and you need 44 to form a majority government.

 

For the past decade or so, BC Liberals have been in charge, with BC NDP forming the opposition. Greens only ever got a tiny portion of votes. However, in this year's provincial elections, Liberals lost their majority (43 seats), NDP got 41, and Greens got 3. All of the sudden, Greens, an "insignificant" party, gained the balance of power in our province, with both major parties vying for their allegiance. This is an excellent example of voting strategically.

 

UK voters are faced with two major political parties determined to carry out Brexit; voting for one of the fringe parties won't prevent Labour or Tories from winning, but an extra few seats for the fringe parties could be hugely significant in case of a minority Labour/Tory government. They could end up with huge bargaining power, which could prevent either major party from pushing for a hard Brexit, like the Tories are currently doing.


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