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Surprisingly not created because of the 2022 World Cup. Something big's going down here.

 

5 Arab States Break Ties With Qatar, Complicating US Coalition-Building

 

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Bahrain and UAE cut diplomatic ties with Qatar, accusing it of creating instability in region

 

Maldives cuts ties with Qatar

 

What Just Happened With Qatar?

 

Gulf plunged into diplomatic crisis as countries cut ties with Qatar

 

Qatar diplomatic crisis – what you need to know

 

What has happened?

Several Arab countries have announced that they are breaking diplomatic ties with Qatar. Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Bahrain announced measures early on Monday. Several hours later the internationally recognised Yemeni government and Libya’s eastern-based government – which has little authority – followed suit. The Maldives then announced it too was cutting ties.

Saudi Arabia said it would close borders, severing land, sea and air contact with the tiny peninsula. The Saudis, the UAE and Bahrain have given Qataris two weeks to leave, and only 48 hours for its diplomats to quit.


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Oil drops 1% on fears that Gulf states cutting ties with Qatar will scuttle OPEC deal

 

 

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Bahrain closed transport links with top liquefied natural gas (LNG) and condensate shipper Qatar, accusing it of supporting extremism and undermining regional stability.

 
The news initially pushed Brent crude prices up as much as 1 per cent as geopolitical fears rippled through the market. But Brent later reversed gains, trading down 58 cents, or 1.12 per cent at US$49.37 a barrel by 10:42 a.m. EDT.

 

Uh-oh, here we go again. Every time OPEC decides to fuck around, our (Canada) economy goes in the shitter. This is why we need to move away from fossil fuels.



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Everything is simple: as age of ISIS coming to an end, there should be an official foreign scapegoat for all these horrors. So, who can it be? USA? Of course not, how dare you... Saudi Arabia? Not yet. Qatar? Yes, exactly!!! Here is it, the sponsor of terrorism, how did not we notice before? 



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Qatar airspace ban begins as Gulf crisis grows

6 June 2017

 

Egypt is closing its airspace to Qatari planes in a growing diplomatic row, with Saudi Arabia and Bahrain expected to do the same on Tuesday.

Several countries have cut ties with Qatar, accusing it of supporting terrorism in the Gulf region.

Qatari nationals in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and the UAE have been given two weeks to leave.

Qatar denies backing militants and its foreign minister has called for "a dialogue of openness and honesty".

Egypt said it was closing off its airspace to Qatar from 04:00 GMT on Tuesday "until further notice".

Travel disruption is expected as the airport in Doha, Qatar's capital, is a major hub for international flight connections.

Airlines affected will include Qatar Airways, Etihad Airways and Emirates.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-40168856


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2 things happened. Trump just went through Saudi Arabia. Trump didnt sign the Paris agreement, causing others to do the opposite doubling down on it.

This is a ploy by Trump and his muppet arab allies to try alienate Qatar by tagging them as supporting terror. Qatar for such a tiny nation holds great assets, maybe that jewel in the crown is the more enviro friendly LNG. It also created Al Jazeera which has always been criticised by those with something to hide from Arab wrongdoers to Rumsfeld/Cheney.
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Qatar has been financially supporting the muslim brotherhood and holding good relations with Iran, both of which are pretty big regional enemies of Saudi Arabia and co. Also, Qatar and Turkey has funded the muslim brotherhood in Libya which caused this large conflict, so I dont hold too much symapthy for their government.

It's a large political move on the GCC's part but I doubt it could escalate too far. But then again I said that about Trump's campaign.

Edited by Outlook, 06 June 2017 - 01:57 PM.

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From what i can gather Qatar has been funding various  terrorist groups and allowing fund raising to occur openly in their country. So in this sense they have been sponsoring terrorism, but obviously most of the countries accusing them have done similar things so it does look like some sort of scapegoating is going on. 



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The tiny, gas-rich emirate has pumped tens of millions of dollars through obscure funding networks to hard-line Syrian rebels and extremist Salafists, building a foreign policy that punches above its weight. After years of acquiescing -- even taking advantage of its ally's meddling -- Washington may finally be punching back.
 

 

ABU DHABI and DOHA — Behind a glittering mall near Doha’s city center sits the quiet restaurant where Hossam used to run his Syrian rebel brigade. At the battalion’s peak in 2012 and 2013, he had 13,000 men under his control near the eastern city of Deir Ezzor. “Part of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), they are loyal to me,” he said over sweet tea and sugary pastries this spring. “I had a good team to fight.”

 
Hossam, a middle-aged Syrian expat, owns several restaurants throughout Doha, Qatar, catering mostly to the country’s upper crust. The food is excellent, and at night the tables are packed with well-dressed Qataris, Westerners, and Arabs. Some of his revenue still goes toward supporting brigades and civilians with humanitarian goods — blankets, food, even cigarettes.
He insists that he has stopped sending money to the battle, for now. His brigade’s funds came, at least in part, from Qatar, he says, under the discretion of then Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Khalid bin Mohammed Al Attiyah. But the injection of cash was ad hoc: Dozens of other brigades like his received initial start-up funding, and only some continued to receive Qatari support as the months wore on. When the funds ran out in mid-2013, his fighters sought support elsewhere. “Money plays a big role in the FSA, and on that front, we didn’t have,” he explained.
 
Hossam is a peripheral figure in a vast Qatari network of Islamist-leaning proxies that spans former Syrian generals, Taliban insurgents, Somali Islamists, and Sudanese rebels. He left home in 1996 after more than a decade under pressure from the Syrian regime for his sympathy with the Muslim Brotherhood.

 



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Qatar row: Trump wades into Gulf stand-off
Source: BBC News

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US President Donald Trump has said he was told during his recent visit to Saudi Arabia that neighbouring Qatar was funding "radical ideology".

Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the UAE, Yemen, Libya's eastern-based government and the Maldives have all cut diplomatic and other ties with Qatar.

They accuse it of supporting terrorism in the Gulf region.

Analysts say the timing of the move, two weeks after a visit to Saudi Arabia by Mr Trump, is crucial.

 

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/n...e-east-40175935



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Trump is such an idiot. Going around and bragging about being responsible for this, even though Qatar is a major US ally in the region. This is obviously too complex of a subject for Trump to handle and he is just screwing everything up.



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Trump is such an idiot. Going around and bragging about being responsible for this, even though Qatar is a major US ally in the region. This is obviously too complex of a subject for Trump to handle and he is just screwing everything up.

He might be looking for a quick victory, with the massive US military base in Qatar, the USA could support its good friend Saudi Arabia in the destruction of this horrible source of terrorism.

 

Most of his voter base won't know or care that Qatar is a US ally.

 

They'd be able to just let the Saudis run it so the USA could reasonably expect not to be stuck there for 20 years. Trump could then point to it and say "see that's how you do regime change, look at me getting shit done and winning the war on terror, i'm the greatest president of all time", they'd still have access to all that gas from the Saudis, who would have a new source of wealth they could use to buy weapons from the USA.

 

This would set them up nicely for the eventual Iran war.  



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These days, Trump probably cares more about whether Qatar is an ally of Russia than he cares about whether it is an ally of the U.S.  After all, if they are an ally of the U.S. it is because they got along with Obama/Clinton. Trump's enemy.

 

Not that I have come to any final conclusion about whether Qatar does or does not support terrorists. Who doesn't support terrorists in that region?


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Will Trump Hotel Project Affect His Decisions in the Gulf Region?

 

http://www.motherjon...l-saudi-arabia/

 

Extract:

 

Donald Trump used his Tuesday morning Twitter tirade to cheer on moves by Saudi Arabia and its allies to isolate fellow Gulf state Qatar over its alleged support of terrorist groups, a development that has increased tensions in the region. And in his inimitable way Trump took credit for the Saudis’ actions. But the president quite recently was a big fan of Qatar. In fact, a few months before Trump announced his bid for president, he was touting plans to open one of his marquis hotels in the tiny Arab monarchy he is currently bashing.  And now there’s an important question for Trump and his White House to answer: what is the status of that project and might it affect his decisions related to this ongoing crisis in the Gulf?

 

In 2010, the Trump Organization was actively pursuing a hotel project in Doha, Qatar’s capital. And in October 2014, Trump’s company registered two companies to manage a prospective Trump hotel there. It’s not clear what has happened with the project, but a number of Trump’s other international projects have not materialized, including proposed hotels in Dubai, Saudi Arabia and China. But a month before he entered the presidential race, Trump retweeted an announcement highlighting his planned hotel for Doha.

 

…Trump…lf visited Doha in 2008 and apparently left with a favorable impression. In October 2015, while on the campaign trial in New Hampshire, Trump regaled an adoring crowd with a story about his visit to Qatar’s airport, where he was given a personal tour by “one of the top people in Qatar,” who Trump said was “a wonderful guy.”

 

Trump told the audience that unlike Qatar’s airport—”the most beautiful one I’ve ever seen!” —airports in the United States were terrible. 

 

“We’re like Third World!” Trump exclaimed. 


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These days, Trump probably cares more about whether Qatar is an ally of Russia than he cares about whether it is an ally of the U.S.

 

Everyone becomes an "ally" of Russia when in deep troubles. According to recent news, Qatari (right adjective? i'm not sure) diplomats already rushed to Moscow for help. I hope they'll be kicked out. In not so distant past this country was the active sponsor of Chechen cutthroats... though not only Qatar, all the "civilized western world" symphatized them.

 

Anyway, Russia should stay away from these ugly Arab fistfights. If Qatar will be officially added to "axis of evil" and invaded, then so be it. There are no any "good guys" here.



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Turkey Fast-Tracks Qatar Troops Bill Update in Symbolic Move

 

The Latest: S&P lowers Qatar’s credit rating over dispute

 

Trump reverses course in Qatar call

 

 

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump changed course on Qatar Wednesday, a day after praising a move by other Gulf nations to sever diplomatic relations with Doha, which hosts a US military base crucial to the fight against ISIS.

 
In a phone call with the Qatari Emir, Trump extended an olive branch, offering to help the parties resolve their differences by inviting them to a White House meeting if necessary. The outreach came as US officials told CNN they were observing increased Qatari military activity as the country placed its forces on the highest state of alert over fears of an military incursion.
 
Trump's new tone echoed that of his secretaries of Defense and State, who emphasized Tuesday the need for Gulf unity and the importance of the US partnership with Qatar, home to the Al Udeid Air Base, the main regional center for air missions against ISIS.


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Saudi Blockade Leaves Qatar's $200 Billion in World Cup Projects in Limbo

Qatar is spending $500 million a week to bring the world’s biggest sporting event to the Arab world for the first time. Its neighbors, the intended spectators, are blocking supplies from cement to door handles that the country needs to pull off the feat.
The road to soccer’s 2022 World Cup has been mired in controversy since Qatar won its bid seven years ago. But the world’s richest nation per capita has soldiered on, committing $200 billion to develop at least eight new stadiums, a $35 billion metro and rail system, and a new city for 200,000 people. It also plans to double the size of its airport to handle as many as 53 million passengers a year.

They'll probably lose it, and the inheritor of the 2022 World Cup will likely be China.


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Map of Qatar Crisis, courtesy of /u/ jamesgdahl

 

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Qatar crisis grows as Arab nations draw up terror sanctions list

Qataris denounce list, which includes politicians and members of ruling family, as ‘baseless and without foundation in fact’

Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies have sanctioned a dozen organisations and 59 people it accuses of links to Islamist militancy – a number of them Qataris or with links to Qatar – escalating the diplomatic crisis in the region.
The publication of the sanctions list comes amid increasing efforts by Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Bahrain to diplomatically and physically isolate the tiny but wealthy Gulf state of Qatar, which has been subjected to a series of co-ordinated measures in the past five days.
The move was announced as Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, approved new legislation – rushed through the Turkish parliament the day before – for increased military cooperation with Qatar, including the potential deployment of Turkish troops.


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Map of Qatar Crisis, courtesy of /u/ jamesgdahl

 

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Well, that is one hell of a clusterfuck. Let's just hope that Erdogan keeps his newly found interventionist dick in his pants, and doesn't get NATO involved in some apocalyptic Sunni-Shia genocidal war. 







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