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2018 Russian Presidential elections

Presidential elections 2018 Russia Ksenia Sobchak Vladimir Putin

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I think it's the time to create the 2018 Russian Presidential elections with only 5 months to go to it.

 

Russia socialite Ksenia Sobchak declares presidential bid

 

19 October 2017

 

Russian socialite Ksenia Sobchak is to stand in the country's presidential election in March, when Vladimir Putin is widely expected to run again.

Ms Sobchak conceded she was an unlikely candidate and said she supported opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who is barred from standing.

However he had warned her not to stand and some commentators now predict an opposition split.

The Kremlin welcomed her candidacy, saying it was fully constitutional.

Mr Navalny is currently serving a 20-day prison sentence for his role in organising "unsanctioned" protests.

He is banned from the election due to a fraud conviction which he says was fabricated.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-41669676


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Well, i just came to post this same news in "Russia Watch" thread. But since you did it first, i'll say what i think about all of this.

 

Ms Sobchak conceded she was an unlikely candidate

 

Definitely. She is a candidate of bohemian elite living in the center of Moscow. Btw, one of her earlier proposals was exactly to clean the city center from "human cattle" so that only the "good people with good faces" would live there. Now I think she will be more careful with voicing her thoughts.

 

Other hand, i must admit, she have shosen a good strategy: "I'm the Candidate Against All. If you're tired of old faces in politics - then don't vote for them! Vote for me and let's show them..." This way she can gain 5-10% of votes.

 

...and said she supported opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who is barred from standing.

 

LOL NO!!! She and Navalny were/are natural enemies and her nomination infuriated him and his sect of followers:

 

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"What a vile creature! Decided to patricipate, scum!" - the most common reaction from Navalny's camp. And this is understandable. The bohemian girl with nickname "Golden pubis of Russia" can not attract voters from patriotic camp, but directly competes with Navalny  :biggrin:

 

As for elections in general, if there will be no extraordinary events (say, meteorite falling exactly on Kremlin and killing all its inhabitants) then Putin will win. I'm much more curious about elections-2024 (which will mark the real start of post-Putin era).



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As for elections in general, if there will be no extraordinary events (say, meteorite falling exactly on Kremlin and killing all its inhabitants) then Putin will win. I'm much more curios about elections-2024 (which will mark the real start of post-Putin era).

 

Has he confirmed that he will be stepping away from politics in 2024? Legally could he be prime minister again in 2024 then go back to being president in 2030? (i know he'd be 78, but no one could beat his experience for the job!)

 

Also if he designates a successor and says "this guy has the right idea's he'll keep leading the nation as I have, and I'll be here to give him advice" then that guy gets elected, its not really post-Putin era. Given his influence in Russia, we may not really see a post-Putin era till he dies (unless he is immortal* in which case there will never be a post-Putin era)

 

*He's obviously not immortal, this is just secret Russian time travel technology, which they keep hidden next to the secret mind control and weather control devices, in the secret Nazi moon-base they conquered in 1965.



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*He's obviously not immortal, this is just secret Russian time travel technology, which they keep hidden next to the secret mind control and weather control devices, in the secret Nazi moon-base they conquered in 1965.

No aliens:

[HOAX].


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Russian jail frees Vladimir Putin opponent Alexei Navalny

Alexei Navalny, a Russian opposition leader, said he was "ready for work" immediately after being released from a Moscow detention center on Sunday.
The 41-year-old lawyer, who has declared his intention to stand as a 2018 presidential candidate, was jailed for organizing protests against Russian President Vladimir Putin without permission.
"Hi. I'm out," Navalny wrote on his Instagram account, posting a picture of himself on a street. The release took place away from a crowd of journalists who had gathered in front of the prison.


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Russian Presidential Hopeful Says Crimea Belongs to Ukraine

 

https://www.courthou...elongs-ukraine/

 

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MOSCOW (AP) — A 35-year-old Russian celebrity TV host who aspires to run for president in next March’s election said Tuesday that Crimea belongs to Ukraine despite its 2014 annexation by Moscow — a bold statement that has drawn angry responses from Russian officials and lawmakers.

 

Ksenia Sobchak also emphasized her critical stance by issuing a call for the release of the nation’s political prisoners and denouncing official corruption at her first news conference since declaring her presidential ambitions.

 

Sobchak, who first became known as a fashionable socialite before launching her successful TV hosting career, denied getting the Kremlin’s blessing for her bid. Still, she acknowledged that she had warned President Vladimir Putin before publicly declaring it.

 

Putin hasn’t yet said whether he will seek re-election in the March 18 presidential vote, but he’s widely expected to run. His approval ratings — now topping 80 percent — guarantee a landslide victory against a pack of stolid veterans of past campaigns, but the government has been worried about growing voter apathy.

 

To make Putin’s victory as impressive as ever, the Kremlin needs to boost the voter turnout. Pundits said Sobchak’s involvement in the race could help draw young voters to the polls without really challenging Putin’s lead.

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Russian celebrity Ksenia Sobchak, who announced her presidential bid last week, gestures while speaking to the media in Moscow, Russia, on Tuesday, Oct. 24, 2017.

(Sergey Vedyashkin/ Moscow News Agency photo via AP)


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After Sobchak, another one:

 

Russian Journalist Yekaterina Gordon Announces Presidential Bid

 

And calling her "journalist" is just ridiculous... I begin to suspect this is the deliberate strategy: if not defeat Putin (that impossible) then at least to mock and delegitimize the elections as a whole.

 

So far, photos of candidates (strongly 18+):

 

Spoiler


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After Sobchak, another one:

 

So far, photos of candidates (strongly 18+):

 

Wow, another potential candidate! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Anfisa Chechova, author of "Sex with Anfisa Chechova" TV show...

 

Spoiler


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Another candidate:

 

Elena Berkova will take part in the 2018 elections

 

Thus, the number of scandalously known "presidential candidates" have increased. Ksenia Sobchak, who announced her desire to participate in October 18, was followed by other specific characters of Russian show business: Katya Gordon and Anfisa Chekhova. Now they are followed by pornstar Elena Berkova.

 

Why not? They're all worth each other... and i can imagine the butthurt of "prominent opposition leader" Navalny. His promises, his provocations - everything was in vain! Compared to these ladies, he's just nothing. And what's worse, statistics confirms that even his fan base begins to ababdon him.



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Well it will be tough for him to compete with their appeal!

 

I guess this is what happens when no one has a realistic chance of getting enough votes to have any kind of impact.

 

Still, watch out! When trump announced he was running no one thought he had any serious chance of winning, and these candidates seem like any of them could get the same millions in free advertising that trump got from the media reporting everything he did and said while ignoring other candidates.

 

Putin is not Hillary though and from an outside perspective I think Russians are probably cynical enough that they would not elect a reality TV star to lead their country, so you are probably safe. 



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Russian Opposition Leader Sues Putin Over Rally Denials

 

https://www.courthou...-rally-denials/

 

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MOSCOW (AP) — Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny is suing President Vladimir Putin over authorities’ repeated refusals to sanction rallies for his supporters.

 

The Tverskoy court in Moscow confirmed receiving Navalny’s lawsuit against Putin on Friday.

 

Navalny has alleged that Putin ordered local officials to withhold permission for the rallies because the Russian leader fears facing him as a challenger in next March’s presidential election.

 

Putin hasn’t said if he will seek another six-year term, but he’s widely expected to run. Navalny has said he intends to join the race even though a criminal conviction that he calls politically motivated prohibits his candidacy.

 

To pressure the Kremlin into letting him run, the anti-corruption crusader has organized a grassroots campaign to support his presidential bid and staged waves of protests this year.


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Russian Opposition Leader Sues Putin Over Rally Denials

 

How it really is. Navalny's rallies by city and date (green - approved, red - denied):

 

Spoiler

 

In fact, he's just fiercely trying to delay the erosion of his fan base. His rallies becoming less and less numerous (hundreds of people per city, part of them are his own employees). And less followers mean less money and less attention from his foreign sponsors.

 

Navalny has alleged that Putin ordered local officials to withhold permission for the rallies because the Russian leader fears facing him as a challenger in next March’s presidential election.

 

I still fail to understand how can he become a "challenger" to anyone when he's the convicted person? Legally speaking, he can not become candidate and, btw, his current fundraising "for elections" is another crime (fraud).

 

As for "challengers" for Putin, i'd bet on Ksenia Sobchak. She can accumulate the votes of liberal bohemians, office hamsters and similar public - "active and creative minority, people with good faces, the only true Europeans among genetic trash in this damned country" - plus those from "genetic trash" who will vote out of despair - no matter for who but against Purin. Up to 5-10% in total.

 

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In general, despite periodic outbursts and hysterics of Navalny and candidates-pornstars with big tits, these elections aren't so interesting. Elections-2024 will be really fateful, but that's not tomorrow, many things may happen during these years.



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Aina Gamzatova: The Muslim woman challenging Putin

 

http://www.aljazeera...0123254169.html

 

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(Al Jazeera) Gamzatova's candidacy has become a hot topic among Russia's Muslim community.

 

While some say she should not step outside her husband's shadow, others applaud her determination.

 

"What about the moral teachings that a woman can't even leave her house without her husband?" Patimat Ibragimova, an observant Muslim mother of two from Dagestan's Makhachkala, told Al Jazeera. "Or she can, and the law is for us, mere mortals?"

 

Aisha Anastasiya Korchagina, an ethnic Russian convert to Islam who works as a psychologist in Moscow, said: "She was brave enough to use her legal right, that is granted to every Russian national, to run for president, she is brave enough to run a decent election campaign."

 

Some see her campaign - irrespective of its results - as a way to boost the image of Muslim women in Russia and to attract attention to the needs of impoverished, overpopulated and multi-ethnic Dagestan. 

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Aina Gamzatova says her candidacy should not be viewed as 'an attempt of Muslims to create a competitor' to Putin

[Courtesy of Gamzatova's website]


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I hope she wins. it would be funny to see putins face when he realizes he was defeated by a muslim women. lol



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It look like Spiegel has a decidedly different take on the Russian elections than some folks in this forum:

 

Behind the Scenes of Russia's Imitated Democracy

 

http://www.spiegel.d...-a-1186743.html

 

Introduction:

 

(Spiegel) Running a democracy isn't easy. But imagine how challenging it must be to imitate one! Sets must be constantly rearranged and political roles must be assigned. The lighting has to be perfect and everybody needs to know their lines. Most importantly, though, the script must be well thought out far into the future, because the performance has no end.

 
 

The way in which Russia elects its president is an example of this form of simulated democracy. Just recently, the Central Election Commission excluded Alexei Navalny, the only opposition politician who had run a serious campaign, from running in this year's election. The candidate, the commission noted, has a criminal record, which disqualifies him from challenging the incumbent, Vladimir Putin.

 

As is typical of imitated democracies, the decision to prohibit Navalny from running is formally correct. He does indeed have a criminal record. But the logic, in this case, is reversed: In order to prevent Navalny from running for office, he was convicted several years ago in a bizarre trial for alleged embezzlement, proceedings that were criticized by the European Court of Human Rights. Just as Russia has no separation of powers, it also lacks an independent judiciary -- with the upshot being that Putin will once again run against handpicked opponents in March.

 

The exclusion of Navalny marks the end of an interesting experiment. Navalny's daring plan was to act as a real politician in a simulated election campaign. Like a member of the audience who suddenly jumps onto the stage, he wanted to force his way into official Russian politics. He was the only one to run a campaign worthy of the name, with trips across the country filled with passionate appearances, a permanent staff and rallies. His calculation was that if the Kremlin were to exclude the only real challenger, it would expose the election charade as a fraud, a scenario the Russian leadership would surely like to avoid.

 

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Behind the Scenes of Russia's Imitated Democracy

 

To counterbalance the previous article:

 

Russian election 2018: why Navalny with 2% support & a criminal conviction is the West’s ‘only’ opposition to Putin

 

March 2018 will almost certainly see Vladimir Putin re-elected to the presidency of the Russian Federation. His overwhelming popularity will pretty much guarantee this outcome. But this is not the story being told in the Western media.

 

Even though Vladimir Putin’s ascendancy in the polls has been verified by Western pollsters, and even though a few more level-headed Western outlets feel obliged to admit he would likely win a free and fair election with ease, the majority of the mainstream media have taken the launch of the presidential campaign as a cue to almost entirely bury even these basic facts, and instead to focus on claims that the ‘only real opposition‘ in Russia has been banned from challenging Putin due to flagrant political censorship.

 

By ‘only real’ opposition they mean Alexei Anatolievich Navalny, lawyer, ‘activist’, occcasional chum of neo-nazis with an awkward tendency to compare racial minorities to cockroaches, and founder of the Anti-Corruption Foundation, who is, ironically, currently serving a suspended sentence for fraud and embezzlement, and is, thereby, banned under the Russian Federation’s constitution from running for elected office.

 

For the UK Independent Navalny is “Putin’s biggest rival”. For the BBC he is “Russia’s vociferous opposition leader”. For Time he is Putin’s “Nemesis”. For Masha – facts only slow me down – Gessen in the New Yorker it is nothing short of miraculous that he is still alive, such a threat he poses to Putin. To the Guardian, abandoning all pretence and going straight for the “most heedless eulogy” award, he is a “firebrand bidding for Russia’s soul.”

 

But why is this the favoured approach? Well, maybe it’s not as stupid as it first seems.
 
As the polls now stand anyone who runs against Putin will look to be easily, if not humiliatingly, defeated. The lowest estimate puts VVP at 54% and the highest at around 73% – way ahead of any rival. It’s obvious any candidate the West supports will just prove to be an embarrassment for them on election day as they nosedive into oblivion.
 
Navalny is different. Navalny – due to his handy conviction for fraud – will be spared the inevitable shame that his tiny share of the vote predicts. So, when all the other hopefuls are defeated, he can remain with credibility intact. A political martyr. A living testimony to the fact the Russian elections are a fraud. The 2% popular support can be airbrushed away (as can his association with nazis, his unfortunate cockroach comparisons and his general litany of bizarre behaviour). He can become a sheep-dipped western hero whom Putin censored through fear. Post-election he will be, in the West at least, the perfect rallying point for a cause, which will have many bland and virtue-signalling faces, but which will at core be about discrediting the Russian presidency as fundamentally corrupt and unrepresentative, and trying, once again, to plant the seeds of color revolution.
 
Navalny has already proclaimed his contempt for democracy and a willingness to support the overthrow of elected governments, which of course makes him exactly the kind of “anti-corruption” liberal we like to work with...
 
I'd recommend to read the whole article, and especially to Caltrek.


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Ok, let's look at other candidates:

 

What would happen if the Russian Communist Party won the 2018 Russian elections?

 

https://www.quora.co...ssian-elections

 

Introduction:

 

In March 2018 in Russia will take place presidential elections. Therefore, under the "victory of the Communist party" you probably mean the victory of the candidate from the Communist party of the Russian Federation (CPRF), his name is Pavel Grudinin.

 

As shown by public opinion polls, in January the rating of the candidate from the Communist party, 6.1% versus 73.2% at Vladimir Putin. You can estimate the chances :- (see chart provided in linked article)

 

But still, what if Grudinin will win?

 

For this we need to understand who is mister Grudinin?

 

This man worked all his life in agriculture, but his company is not just a farm.

 

See link above quote box for remainder of article.

 

See link above quote box for remainder of article.


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Actually, I think from what I have read so far, Green party candidate Elvira Agurbash is my favorite.  In Maine, I registered to vote as a Green party member.  Mostly because I was only going to vote in the general election any way.  I have also voted for Green Party candidates in the past here in the United States, including Ralph Nader.

 

The "Alliance of Greens" nominated Elvira Agurbash as a candidate for the presidential elections in the Russian Federation.

 

http://russian-greens.ru/node/5297

 

 

The second stage of the V extraordinary congress of the political party "Alliance of Greens" was held at the site of IA "Rosbalt" in Moscow. The main topic of the agenda of the congress was a secret ballot on the nomination of the top manager of the Mortadel company Elvira Agurbash as a candidate for the post of President of the Russian Federation. The candidature of E. Agurbash was supported by the absolute majority of party delegates.

 
Delegates from more than 50 regions of the country took part in the work of the congress. In addition to the main issue on the agenda of the congress, the delegates elected a new composition of the Central Council of the Party and the Control and Revision Commission.
 
Addressing the delegates of the Congress, the leader of the "Alliance of Greens" Alexander Zakadyrin announced a number of initiatives that will form the basis of the party's program in future electoral cycles. This is the adoption of the Environmental Code of the Russian Federation, the establishment of the post of the Plenipotentiary for the President of the Russian Federation on environmental issues, the adoption of a national waste management strategy, the priority of which will be the introduction of a system for separate collection of garbage and waste processing, and the inventory of military facilities in accordance with existing environmental standards and standards.
 
Speaking on the issue of the party candidate, A.Zakodyrin said that new persons, young, responsible and ambitious politicians with an understandable electoral program should appear in Russian politics. According to the leader of the Alliance of Greens, the party long enough sought a candidate who will share all the principles of the "green" ideology:
 
"The ideology of" green "is understandable to any sane person: clean air and water, the preservation of nature and biodiversity, cleaning the country from landfills, switching to a resource saving system, switching to alternative energy - all these principles are supported by the absolute majority of Russians, " said Alexander Zakadyrin.
 

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Elvira Agurbash
The Vice President of the agricultural holding Mortadel, the presidential candidate from the Green Alliance

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What would happen if the Russian Communist Party won the 2018 Russian elections?

 

i know :)

 

The real picture is even less appealing. This "communist"-latifundist pledged to fight the outflow of capital, yet he himself was caught visiting Austria to withdraw 7 billion rubles (roughly 120 million USD) from foreign account which, as he said, he "forgot" to declare. As one man ironically commented: "and how much money should you have to just forget about 7 billion?"

 

In general, our modern "communists" have nothing to do with communism. This is fact of life. I feel pity to those old folk still voting for them by inertia. 



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Russian elections: Who is running against Vladimir Putin?

 

https://www.aljazeer...5094917040.html

 

Inroduction:

 

On February 18, the Central Electoral Commission in Russia announced the final list of approved candidates for the March 18 presidential elections.

 

Beside President Vladimir Putin, seven other candidates were allowed to run the race. Two of them - Vladimir Zhirinovsky and Grigory Yavlinsky - have run against Putin in the past.

 

Opposition leader Alexei Navalny was barred from running in December over a conviction of fraud in a court case his supporters see as politically motivated.

 

None of the seven other candidates competing against Putin has polled above eight percent in pre-election surveys.

 

 

What happened to Elvira Agurbush?

 

I did not see her in the list of the seven candidates discussed in the linked article.

 

I also didn't see Aina Gamzalova.


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