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The Crucible

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When you take Yuli's idea of studentries to its logical extreme, you get the Crucible. The ultimate place of enhancement, hammering out the greatest possible minds inside its simulated fires.

 

A billion sophonts go into the Crucible. Their bodies are forsaken, their minds uploaded into a colossal data center--perhaps an asteroid, converted entirely to computronium. They will not rest again. Every second, their minds are subjected to another battle simulation. After a thousand battles, performance metrics are calculated. The half-billion who perform the best are kept, the rest are discarded. A half-billion more sophont minds are made to replace them, made by mixing and matching pieces of the other half billion.

 

The games begin again. And again. And again. Millions upon millions of generations go by in the sims. And finally, diminishing returns are reached. All minds but the top thousands are deleted, and the remainder are copied a millionfold and birthed into the world once more.

 

They have all been honed to a razor-sharp point. They are the best that their toposophic level can allow. They may look human in their new flesh bodies, but they barely act the part, for the Crucible has molded them into something else. Minds optimized for battle by the power of a genetic algorithm.


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There is the distinct possibility that the environment you imagine as strengthening to one's ability to learn in fact may be detrimental. What I have noticed about the best minds is that they are quiet and that they are creative. One element necessary for creativity is rest not a combative atmosphere. Just a thing to ponder

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wouldnt it be more ethical to reject the failures instead of destroy them? Idk about you but killing 500 million people because they werent good enough just seems shitty to me.



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wouldnt it be more ethical to reject the failures instead of destroy them? Idk about you but killing 500 million people because they werent good enough just seems shitty to me.

Ethics are of little concern here. And it would lower the stakes, thus diminishing the performance of those inside.

 

There is the distinct possibility that the environment you imagine as strengthening to one's ability to learn in fact may be detrimental. What I have noticed about the best minds is that they are quiet and that they are creative. One element necessary for creativity is rest not a combative atmosphere. Just a thing to ponder

This version of the Crucible is designed for militaristic purposes. A civilian variant would not be based around war games.


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@ Jakob,

 

You know, as much as I often disagree with you, you do have a vivid imagination.


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The principles of justice define an appropriate path between dogmatism and intolerance on the one side, and a reductionism which regards religion and morality as mere preferences on the other.   - John Rawls


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@ Jakob,

 

You know, as much as I often disagree with you, you do have a vivid imagination.

Thank you.



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Archenemy to the sobornost's archon. Well done.

 

If the archons set the natural habitat for the all-defector, I wonder what kind of abomination will a crucible give birth to.

 

If by all means it somehow keeps a record of all its sims, and somehow all crucibles are networked, wouldn't it be able to create its own champion, though.

 

Maybe that's just what it always does. Every new sophont that enters die, and only the latest champion comes out.


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As you can see, I'm a huge nerd who'd rather write about how we can become a Type V civilization instead of study for my final exams (gotta fix that).

But to put an end to this topic, might I say that the one and only greatest future achievement of humankind is when it finally becomes posthumankind.


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Well the crucible does have an interesting record of churning out godlike entities when they are needed. Eridani and Sky go in and get merged to form the Goddess of War. And Jak goes in and becomes the Lord of Shipwrights. I wouldn't rule out Phobos and Deimos having come out of there either.

 

 

If by all means it somehow keeps a record of all its sims, and somehow all crucibles are networked, wouldn't it be able to create its own champion, though.

 

Maybe that's just what it always does. Every new sophont that enters die, and only the latest champion comes out.

You're onto something here. Now I wonder what would happen if a Black Box got into the crucible...

 

 

 

Archenemy to the sobornost's archon. Well done.

 

If the archons set the natural habitat for the all-defector, I wonder what kind of abomination will a crucible give birth to.

...hmm

 

...hmm....

 

...hmm. I never thought of that.







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