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BREAKING / NBC NEWS: Michael Cohen's attorneys have told a judge tonight that their client is cooperating in an ongoing federal investigation in New York and he has met with the New York AG's office about their suit against the Trump Foundation and the President.
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New Cohen Bombshells Might End the Trump Presidency

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Posted on Sat, Dec 1st, 2018 by Leo Vidal

Michael Cohen tossed another bomb at Donald Trump late Friday night by publicly disclosing that he told his former boss, who was then a presidential candidate, about a phone call he made to Moscow in 2016. Cohen said he called the Kremlin to request help from the Russian government in building a Trump Tower in Russia’s capital city.

Not only that, but Cohen also maintains that he got guidance from Trump’s lawyers and his White House staff in 2017 while he drafted his false statement to Congress seeking to cover up the truth about the Moscow project and the fact that Donald Trump was heavily involved in the project.

Both of these new, explosive accusations were made by Cohen’s attorneys late Friday night as part of the case being prosecuted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. They were part of a “sentencing memo” in which Cohen asked for a no-jail sentence in exchange for his cooperation with Mueller’s investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Cohen’s new filings with the court completely contradict the statements of President Trump who said he had little knowledge and no involvement in the Moscow project.

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The new accusations concerning President Trump were made by Cohen’s lawyers in a sentencing memorandum that was delivered to a federal judge in Manhattan on Friday night.

Donald Trump has been downplaying his knowledge of the Moscow Trump Tower project, but Michael Cohen has now filed a court document saying he knew everything and was intimately involved in the project every step of the way. And Cohen said that his lies to Congress were in effect drafted with the knowledge and assistance of Donald Trump and his lawyers.

 


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    Ex-prosecutor hints Michael Cohen may have secretly recorded Don Jr. and Ivanka: 'Lordy, I hope there are tapes’ https://www.rawstory...fSZQmww.twitter
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Early 2019 prediction: Sometime next year, Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner are formally charged. This may or may not lead to Trump resigning before he can be impeached. I also predict that some Republicans will begin turning on him. Once either Kushner or Jr. go, that'll be the trigger. Other Republicans, however, will double down with their support, claiming Democrats and the Deep State are performing a coup (despite the fact Trump being removed doesn't remove Republicans from power). I don't at all see Pence also being removed.


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Trump overheard saying 'get me out of here' as he walked offstage during G-20 Summit photo-op
Source: Business Insider

 

Trump overheard saying 'get me out of here' as he walked offstage during G-20 Summit photo-op
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President Donald Trump was recorded saying "get me out of here" as he strode offstage during a photo op at the G20 Summit in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Trump was onstage for a group photo Saturday before he shook hands with Argentinian President Mauricio Macri and walked off the stage, closely followed by an aide.

A microphone then recorded the president, who was then off-camera, telling an aide "get me out of here."

Trump eventually returned to take a group photo, marking the end of the two-day gathering of international leaders.

 

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Feds plan unusual appeal in emoluments suit vs. Trump
Source: Politico

By Josh Gerstein 5 hrs ago

The Justice Department is planning an unusual appeal to stop the governments of the State of Maryland and the District of Columbia from using a federal lawsuit to demand access to information about whether President Donald Trump is using his luxury Washington hotel to unconstitutionally profit from his office.

Last month, U.S. District Court Judge Peter Messitte turned down Trump’s request for permission to seek an appeal of early rulings in the case that went against him. Now, federal government lawyers say they plan to appeal anyway, using a rarely invoked process that can block a wayward judge from pressing on with a course of action alleged to be illegal or improper.

On Friday, the Justice Department informed Messitte that the federal government plans to try to get the Richmond-based 4th Circuit Court of Appeals to halt the case.

“The Solicitor General of the United States has authorized the filing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit of a petition for writ of mandamus against this Court’s orders declining to dismiss the case and to certify an interlocutory appeal, as well as an application for a stay of District Court proceedings pending resolution of the mandamus petition,” Justice Department attorneys wrote.

 

 

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What is wrong with him? Seriously.

 

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lmao, he looks tired and burnt out. Since it's Netanyahu too, I'd give Trump a pass. He even should've walked out the door leaving him there.

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Maybe the stress is causing him to lose sleep.  Sleep deprivation can do awful things to the mind.  If it is as bad as some of these reports suggest, perhaps he will resign.  A long shot, as I don't think he will surrender the presidency that easily.  I think he will hang on under the not-too-irrational perception that he is in a better position to protect himself from legal jeopardy as president than he would be as a private citizen. 

 

Below is a link to an article on one source of such possible stress which also helps explains his need to stay in office to use the power of the presidency to protect himself.

 

Mueller's breadcrumbs suggest he has the goods

 

https://www.axios.co...488ee216ef.html

 

Introduction:

 

(Alternet) Everyone's waiting for the "Mueller Report." But it turns out that special counsel Robert Mueller is writing a "report" in real time, before our eyes, through his cinematic indictments and plea agreements.

 

The big picture: One of the least-noticed elements of the special counsel's approach is that all along, he has been making his case bit by bit, in public, since his very first court filing. With his major court filings so far, Mueller has already written more than 290 pages of the "Mueller Report." And there are still lots of loose ends in those documents — breadcrumbs Mueller is apparently leaving for later.

 

 

Trump's main asset, if it can be called that, are the enablers who continue to support Trump, no matter what.  An article that I linked in the Future of False Consciousness opens up an interesting line of speculation as to the psychological motivations of such supporters.  That article is also linked below:

 

https://www.alternet...us-grow-out-age

 

 

These enablers are making it harder for everybody else, with the possible exception of the top one percent who benefit from tax cuts,  ill advised regulatory relief, etc.

 

Also in the Future of False Consciousness thread is a point that "Trump's habit of denying reality and spinning baseless conspiracy theories that fit his preferred vision of the world is a direct outgrowth of the GOP's denial of climate change science." The enablers are essentially egging Trump on to dig a hole that is deeper and deeper for himself as well as for the rest of the planet. Stupidity2.


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Did someone mention something about an inversion in the yield curve? If that is the case, I'm predicting now that the economy goes south in late 2019, Trump gets blamed for it (and not the Fed), and he will not get re-elected. Therefore, I think there could be a strong likelihood of democrats winning the election in 2020. Democrats will 'fix' the economy with socialism, backing it either with debt or money printing, and we will see major inflation coming in the 2020's. Not that I would totally blame those democrats in power at the time; this will have been a long time in the making.  



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^ Dems won't fix it with socialism, unless you mean "socialism" in the American sense. If the Dems actually used socialism to address the recession, there'd be worker cooperatives everywhere, Mondragon would become the largest foreign corporation with influence in the USA, trade union representatives would dominate Congress, and Hillary Clinton would transition from a "leftist corporate stooge" to a "rightist corporate stooge" in mainstream discourse.


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Did someone mention something about an inversion in the yield curve? If that is the case, I'm predicting now that the economy goes south in late 2019, Trump gets blamed for it (and not the Fed), and he will not get re-elected. Therefore, I think there could be a strong likelihood of democrats winning the election in 2020. Democrats will 'fix' the economy with socialism, and we will see major inflation coming in the 2020's. Not that I would totally blame those democrats in power at the time; this will have been a long time in the making

 

While there is a possibility that the economy will go south soon, I don't think the left should count on that happening.  There are too many ways that the Fed and Trump can postpone the day of reckoning.  

 

As to the Democratic "fix" leading to inflation, it really depends upon the nature of that fix. An increase in the tax rate for corporations and/or the highest income earners, coupled with some fiscal constraint in regards to defense spending, could easily avoid such an inflationary outcome. Whether the Democrats will summon the political will to pursue such a course is a very good question.


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^ Dems won't fix it with socialism, unless you mean "socialism" in the American sense. If the Dems actually used socialism to address the recession, there'd be worker cooperatives everywhere, Mondragon would become the largest foreign corporation with influence in the USA, trade union representatives would dominate Congress, and Hillary Clinton would transition from a "leftist corporate stooge" to a "rightist corporate stooge" in mainstream discourse.

 

I think your response points to the problem of using a word as vague as "socialism."  It means so many different things to so many different people.  That is not to say that I otherwise disagree with your sentiments.

 

 

Edit:  I apologize for the potentially confusing double negative employed in that last sentence.  I trust that the careful reader will be able to sort out what I mean.


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Well, from what I've heard, pretty much every time there has been an inversion in the yield curve, there has been a recession. And pretty much every time a recession occurs in the final year of a presidency, that president did NOT get reelected. Obviously, past trends don't guarantee future outcomes, but I think it is a pretty good indicator.



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^^^ I have a very defective crystal ball in such matters.


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^ Dems won't fix it with socialism, unless you mean "socialism" in the American sense. If the Dems actually used socialism to address the recession, there'd be worker cooperatives everywhere, Mondragon would become the largest foreign corporation with influence in the USA, trade union representatives would dominate Congress, and Hillary Clinton would transition from a "leftist corporate stooge" to a "rightist corporate stooge" in mainstream discourse.

 

I think your response points to the problem of using a word as vague as "socialism."  It means so many different things to so many different people.  That is not to say that I otherwise disagree with your sentiments.

 

 

Edit:  I apologize for the potentially confusing double negative employed in that last sentence.  I trust that the careful reader will be able to sort out what I mean.

 

 

 

Absolutely

 

Yuli's talking about market socialism in the libertarian sense, which is something I'm completely for btw. The Mondragon needs work due to the presence or administrative hierarchy, but it's still leaps and bounds better than anything else out their right now.

 

But, market socialism of the type Yuli describes could just as easily be confused with the Yugoslavian variation of the term which wasn't really market socialism, even though the Yugoslavs said it was.

 

Then there's authoritarian socialism, democratic socialism and libertarian socialism (anarchism.) 

 

All the while the average person's conception of socialism in the US is still based in cold war propaganda. And the situation isn't better overseas, most Europeans constantly confuse socialism with social democracy which doesn't even qualify as socialism to begin with. The same thing happens here to a lesser extent too. Bernie Sanders is a social democrat, not a socialist.

 

The solution involves a lot of activism and education on socialist history and thought. People know what a business is and understand the worker-boss relationship before they become teenagers usually. This happens through pop culture and just observing how their parents interact with the world. In contrast, most people don't ever learn what a cooperative is in the proper democratic sense and even socialists themselves don't normally learn about them until they're young adults.


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I'm all for libertarian market socialism. I just don't much like the idea of an authoritarian government or stark class divides in the era of artificial intelligence. Look at China and the UK for examples of the former and latter respectively.


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For bgates276, anything to the left of Gordon Gekko = socialism.



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Argentine president: "Trump almost didn't want to come" to G-20 Summit; had to ask "as a friend."
 

Speaking in a local news interview yesterday, Argentine President Mauricio Macri recounted that his U.S. counterpart Donald Trump "almost didn't want to come" and that he had to be persuaded to come "as a friend."

Last week's G-20 Summit was held on November 30 and December 1 in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

According to Macri, at one point he had to ask Trump: "Are you my friend?"

To which Trump replied: "Yes, I'm your friend. That's why I'm coming to the G-20."

"He almost didn't want to come," Macri noted, adding that he told Trump that "you know it's important to me that you come."

"Yes, yes. I'll come," Trump assured him.

"And if you come," Macri said to have pleaded, "you have to help me so that it turns out well - so that we have a declaration."

The two leaders have reportedly known each other since at least 1984, when Trump bought the former Lincoln West development (now Riverside South) in Manhattan from Macri's father.

Macri claimed in later interviews that Trump forced the elder Macri to sell it to him by cajoling New York authorities and local banks to boycott the project. They nevertheless, by his own account, later became friends.

"With Donald, I'm lucky I've known him for over 30 years," Macri explained. "I asked him as a friend."

 

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Trump's family empire/entities hit with 30 subpoenas. Multiple federal agencies involved.
Source: Source Politics

 

A ton of subpoenas just hit President Trump's family business seeking records from not only the Trump Organization but from the Internal Revenue Service and a dozen other entities, the Associated Press is reporting.

In all, the subpoenas target more than 30 Trump-linked private entities.

The bombshell news happened on Tuesday, just one day after U.S. District Court Judge Peter J. Messitte said that foreign and domestic spending at Trump’s Washington, D.C., hotel amounted to a violation of the Constitution’s emoluments clause.

The attorney generals from both the District of Columbia and Maryland were behind the coordinated effort.

 

Read more: https://www.sourcepo...ities-involved/


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