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John HarwoodVerified account @JohnJHarwood

 
 

Economist/YouGov Poll:

 

should House try to impeach Trump? 50% yes 39% no

if House impeaches, should Senate remove Trump from office? 51% yes 39% no



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***CIA's top lawyer made criminal referral on whistleblower's complaint about Trump conduct***
CIA's top lawyer made criminal referral on whistleblower's complaint about Trump conduct

Experts are raising questions about why the Justice Department did not open an investigation.


Oct. 4, 2019, 4:31 PM EDT
By Ken Dilanian and Julia Ainsley

WASHINGTON — Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered a criminal referral to the Justice Department about the whistleblower's allegations that President Donald Trump abused his office in pressuring the Ukrainian president, U.S. officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News.

The move by the CIA's general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed, raising more questions about why the Justice Department later closed the case without conducting an investigation.

In the days since an anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing, President Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a "perfect" call between him and the Ukrainian president. But a timeline provided by U.S. officials familiar with the matter shows that multiple senior government officials appointed by Trump found the whistleblower's complaints credible, troubling, and worthy of further inquiry starting soon after the president's July phone call.

While that timeline and the CIA general counsel's contact with the DOJ has been previously disclosed, it has not been reported that the CIA's top lawyer intended the call to be to make a criminal referral about the president's conduct, acting under rules set forth in a memo governing how intelligence agencies should report allegations of federal crimes.

 



More: https://www.nbcnews....plaint-n1062481


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God, Our father thou who art in thoust heaven, please allow Trump the strength, the restitute, and the patience to get through these trying times, who suffer for our sins and whose the closest to jesus today and that Pelosi can suck BIG FAt

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Mulvaney Subpoena has issued
 


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Oversight Committee

@OversightDems

#BREAKING @RepCummings, @RepAdamSchiff, & @RepEliotEngel subpoena White House Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney for key documents as part of the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump. https://oversight.ho...achment-inquiry


White House Subpoenaed in House Impeachment Inquiry
Oct 4, 2019
Press Release

“The President has chosen the path of defiance, obstruction, and cover-up.”

Washington, D.C. (Oct. 4, 2019)—Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the Chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Reform, Rep. Adam Schiff, the Chairman of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and Rep. Eliot L. Engel, the Chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs, sent a letter conveying a subpoena to White House Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney for key documents as part of the House of Representatives’ impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump.

“During a press conference on Wednesday, President Trump was asked if he would cooperate with the House impeachment inquiry. He responded, ‘I always cooperate.’ President Trump’s claim is patently false. The White House has refused to engage with—or even respond to—multiple requests for documents from our Committees on a voluntary basis. After nearly a month of stonewalling, it appears clear that the President has chosen the path of defiance, obstruction, and cover-up,” the Chairmen wrote.


On September 9, 2019, the Committees sent a letter asking the White House to voluntarily produce documents by September 16, 2019. The White House did not produce any documents, did not send any reply letter, and did not acknowledge receipt of the request.

On September 24, 2019, the Committees sent a follow-up letter warning that the Chairmen would be forced to consider compulsory process if the White House continued to disregard the request, and they set a new deadline of September 26, 2019. Again, the White House ignored the request.

On October 2, 2019, Chairman Cummings sent a memo to Members of the Oversight Committee explaining that he intended to issue a subpoena today if the White House continued to disregard the requests. The White House has not produced any documents and has not sent any reply.

“We deeply regret that President Trump has put us—and the nation—in this position, but his actions have left us with no choice but to issue this subpoena,” the Chairmen wrote.

 

 

Click here to read the letter to the White House.

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Issues:
Impeachment Inquiry
116th Congress

https://oversight.ho...achment-inquiry


Link to the memo - https://oversight.ho...re Subpoena.pdf


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2nd Official Is Weighing Whether to Blow the Whistle on Trump's Ukraine Dealings

Source: New York Times


WASHINGTON — A second intelligence official who was alarmed by President Trump’s dealings with Ukraine is weighing whether to file his own formal whistle-blower complaint and testify to Congress, according to two people briefed on the matter.

The official has more direct information about the events than the first whistle-blower, whose complaint that Mr. Trump was using his power to get Ukraine to investigate his political rivals touched off an impeachment inquiry. The second official is among those interviewed by the intelligence community inspector general to corroborate the allegations of the original whistle-blower, one of the people said.

The inspector general, Michael Atkinson, briefed lawmakers privately on Friday about how he substantiated the whistle-blower’s account. It was not clear whether he told lawmakers that the second official is considering filing a complaint.

A new complaint, particularly from someone closer to the events, would potentially add further credibility to the account of the first whistle-blower, a C.I.A. officer who was detailed to the National Security Council at one point. He said that he relied on information from more than half a dozen American officials to compile his allegations about Mr. Trump’s campaign to solicit foreign election interference that could benefit him politically.

 


Read more: https://www.nytimes....stleblower.html



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Trump Orders Cut to National Security Staff After Whistle-Blower
https://www.bloomber...-whistle-blower

President Donald Trump has ordered a substantial reduction in the staff of the National Security Council, according to five people familiar with the plans, as the White House confronts an impeachment inquiry touched off by a whistle-blower complaint related to the agency’s work.

Some of the people described the staff cuts as part of a White House effort to make its foreign policy arm leaner under new National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien.

The request to limit the size of the NSC staff was conveyed to senior agency officials by acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and O’Brien this week. The whistle-blower complaint, focused on Trump’s conduct in a July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, has been followed by damaging reports on the president’s private conversations with other world leaders.

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Two of the people familiar with the decision to shrink the NSC insisted it was largely rooted in both the transition to O’Brien’s leadership as well as Trump’s desire to increase efficiency at the agency, which grew under former President Barack Obama. About 310 people currently work at the NSC.

 

 


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Here’s What Russian Disinfo Sites Want You to Believe About Impeachment

 

https://www.motherjo...-trump-ukraine/

 

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(Mother Jones) As President Donald Trump battles impeachment, key allies have rallied to his defense: close GOP lawmakers in Congress, Fox News, and far-right internet users. And then there is the ally that Trump doesn’t like to talk about: Russia.

 

…The particulars of the Ukraine scandal make a natural fit for the Kremlin’s playbook for destabilizing western democracies: sowing distrust of authority and turning corruption into a “both sides” problem, encouraging citizens to resign themselves to grift and propaganda. That Russian media has jumped on stories that paint the scandal as a deep state coup—a theory that Trump himself has dangerously expounded during the Mueller investigation—is predictable.

 

The dynamic was on display on Monday morning, after Trump falsely accused the intelligence community of changing its rules to allow whistleblower complaints to contain second-hand information. (See Trump Tweet cited in article linked above the quote box).

 

RT picked this up and ran with it, running multiple segments that parroted Trump’s soon-debunked claim that this had occurred, and that it was evidence of a deep state operation against Trump. In one video shared on twitter, Ray McGovern, a former CIA analyst and RT regular who argues Russia’s 2016 hacking of the Democratic National Committee was an inside job, is quoted speaking conspiratorially about a group of “people who are behind all this,” as the segment emphasizes the narrative that the whistleblower’s complaint …involved second-hand information.

 

Russian media has also worked hard to portray Biden as the corrupt figure in the scandal. The president set off the whistleblower complaint by using his office to pressure the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, to help him investigate Biden, a political rival. Trump’s claim—now repeated by Russian media—is that Biden withheld money from Ukraine in order to force the ouster of a Ukrainian prosecutor general who was investigating an energy company that his son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board of. The allegations have not been borne out by the facts: the prosecutor Biden helped push out was widely seen as corrupt and was not actively investigating the company. But with impeachment underway, the president has continued to argue that it is Biden who should be scrutinized—and Russian media is doing just that

 


The principles of justice define an appropriate path between dogmatism and intolerance on the one side, and a reductionism which regards religion and morality as mere preferences on the other.   - John Rawls


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House Democrats Are So Focused on Ukraine That They’re Overlooking Another Impeachable Offense

 

https://www.motherjo...chable-offense/

 

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(Mother Jones) Donald Trump is credibly reported to have given aid and comfort to an enemy that attacked the United States—and this allegation, several days later, is not part of the news cycle or the scandal that is fueling the impeachment drive on Capitol Hill. The story of the most profound betrayal a president can commit has vanished from the national discourse. And that is partly because of the Democrats.

 

Last Friday night, the Washington Post published a stunning article reporting that during an Oval Office meeting in May 2017, Trump told Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then–Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak that Trump was unconcerned about Moscow’s attack on the 2016 presidential election. Trump noted the Russians that their assault on the United States was no big deal because the United States did the same in other countries, according to three former officials….Trump’s comments dismissing the importance of the Russian attack—which, according to the US intelligence community, was mounted in part to help Trump win the White House—now stands as the most significant moment of that gathering, where Trump and the two Russians were photographed smiling. 

 

…Trump telling the Russians he did not care about the attack goes much further. That would mark a dereliction of his primary duty as president: to protect the nation. The US intelligence community, the report of special counsel Robert Mueller, and two congressional investigations (led by Republicans) have each declared that Moscow covertly waged extensive information warfare against the United States to subvert American democracy. Yet here was Trump sending a message to the foreign adversary that staged this attack that he was indifferent about it—that Russia could get away with it and perhaps do so again. Certainly, Moscow could have read Trump’s I-don’t-care comment as an invitation for future underhanded intervention.  

 

…On Wednesday, when asked if Moscow would target the coming US election, Russian leader Vladimir Putin joked, “I’ll tell you a secret: Yes, we’ll definitely do it.” And he added in a stage whisper, “Just don’t tell anyone.”

 

…The shirking of a president’s most basic obligation…could be expected to dominate the news for a few days and appear front and center in an impeachment inquiry. But it hasn’t.


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Trump's in danger... so, of course, the Left wing are there to help. Tracey:

https://mobile.twitt...538675375030272

Since *before he even took office* the country's spy agencies have taken extraordinary steps to curtail/impede the elected president. That continues now: the current "whistleblower" fracas originated with the CIA. You don't have to be "pro-Trump" to find this extremely alarming


Trump is a victim of Deep State dirty tricks controlling the message.

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More help for Trump from the Left.  Taibbi:
 
https://mobile.twitt...877230894923776
 

It’s self-evident. A CIA officer who goes right back to work for the CIA after “blowing the whistle” is a very particular kind of whistleblower.


Very peculiar, indeed. The whistleblower should have washed and washed and washed his hands, and vomited in disgust, left his job to face an uncertain employment future, or maybe defected to Russia, where they would handle him gingerly and with hospitality. While there, he could pen his memoirs and participate in televised debates like any self-respecting dissident should.

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Key Republicans split with Trump on Biden investigation push

Source: Hill

BY ALEXANDER BOLTON - 10/06/19 06:00 AM EDT


President Trump is pushing hard for an investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, but the prospect of using the Oval Office to go after a political rival is prompting some GOP senators to speak out.

Sens. Mitt Romney (Utah), Susan Collins (Maine), Ben Sasse (Neb.) and Lindsey Graham (S.C.) have raised concerns, to varying degrees, about launching a politically motivated probe into the Bidens

Romney on Friday said Trump's call for China to investigate Biden was "wrong and appalling. "When the only American citizen President Trump singles out for China’s investigation is his political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process, it strains credulity to suggest that it is anything other than politically motivated," Romney said in a statement, which he also tweeted.

A day later, Collins said it was "completely inappropriate" for Trump to urge China to investigate Biden and his son. "I thought the president made a big mistake by asking China to get involved in investigating a political opponent," Collins told the Bangor Daily News. "It’s completely inappropriate."

 


Read more: https://thehill.com/...estigation-push



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2nd whistleblower comes forward after speaking with IG: Attorney

Source: ABC



Mark Zaid, the attorney representing the whistleblower who sounded the alarm on President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine and triggered an impeachment inquiry, tells ABC News that he is now representing a second whistleblower who has spoken with the inspector general.

Zaid tells ABC News' Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos that the second person -- also described as an intelligence official -- has first-hand knowledge of some of the allegations outlined in the original complaint and has been interviewed by the head of the intelligence community's internal watchdog office, Michael Atkinson.

The existence of a second whistleblower -- particularly one who can speak directly about events involving the president related to conversations involving Ukraine -- could undercut Trump's repeated insistence that the original complaint, released on Sept. 26, was "totally inaccurate."

That original seven-page complaint alleged that Trump pushed a foreign power to investigate his political rival, Joe Biden, and Biden's son, Hunter, and that unnamed senior White House officials then tried to "lock down" all records of the phone call.

 

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Trump wants Americans to obey him like North Koreans obey Kim Jong-un

[link:https://www.rawstory...ey-kim-jong-un/|

During a surprise interview with “Fox & Friends” on Friday, Trump said he was impressed by the respect that Kim commanded from his people.

“He’s the head of the country — and he’s the strong head, don’t let anyone think anything different,” Trump said during the interview. “He speaks and his people sit up in attention. I want my people to do the same.”

Kim Jong-un runs a totalitarian dictatorship in which people face imprisonment or execution if they criticize him. According to human rights watchdog Amnesty International, North Korea has imprisoned an estimated 120,000 people based on political grounds across four separate camps dedicated to imprisoning political dissidents.

The organization further says that people living in these camps are “subjected to forced labor as well as torture and other ill-treatment.”

Despite this, the president has praised Kim for being a “very tough” leader who “loves” the people of his country.

When asked by Doocy why he was heaping praise upon Kim de

 

spite his country’s atrocious human rights record, Trump replied, “I don’t want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family.”

 

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Leftist Matt Taibbi helping Trump again, this time with a column in Rolling Stone magazine:

https://www.rollings...-spying-895529/
 

It’s fair to wonder if this is a one-person effort. Even former CIA official Robert Baer, no friend of Trump, said as much in an early confab on CNN with Brooke Baldwin:

BAER: That’s what I find remarkable, is that this whistleblower knew about that, this attempt to cover up. This is a couple of people. It isn’t just one.

BALDWIN: And on the people point, if the allegation is true, Bob, what does it say that White House officials, lawyers, wanted to cover it up?

BAER: You know, my guess, it’s a palace coup against Trump. And who knows what else they know at this point.

That sounds about right. Actual whistleblowers are alone. The Ukraine complaint seems to be the work of a group of people, supported by significant institutional power, not only in the intelligence community, but in the Democratic Party and the commercial press.

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Ukrainegate to me looks like a continuation of Russiagate, which was a reaction of that defeated political elite to the rightists. I don’t feel solidarity with either group.


No, no, no!, it's not the same as a Russiagate conspiracy theory! Don't call me a "conspiracy theorist"! We all know that real whistleblowers don't follow the whistleblower laws and procedures; ergo, this is the Deep State coup. And, once again, I'm not a "conspiracy theorist".

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Trump loses NY federal court fight to keep tax returns secret from Manhattan DA probe:

 

"A federal judge on Monday dismissed President Donald Trump’s lawsuit seeking to block the release of his personal and corporate tax returns to the Manhattan district attorney, who is conducting a criminal investigation related to the president’s company."
"Less than two hours later, the U.S. Circuit Court for the Second Circuit granted a temporary stay of enforcement of a grand jury subpoena for eight years of Trump’s tax returns from his accoutants, Mazars USA, pending an expedited review a a panel of that court’s judges."

 

https://www.cnbc.com...rns-secret.html



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Leftist Matt Taibbi tweeting about "worthy" and "unworthy" whistleblowers:

https://mobile.twitt...247532799811589
 

That’s exactly right, missed that.


https://mobile.twitt...253915297406976


You have it backwards. Chomsky would describe this whistleblower as “worthy” (i.e. worthy of coverage) because he/she advances a mainstream narrative. The other whistleblowers were deemed “unworthy” of coverage, and were as a result jailed, run out of the country, reviled, etc.


As is typical of Left-speak, you have to understand Chomsky was being ironic with his language.

Addendum: And I see Glenn Greenwald retweeted Taibbi's piece on the whistleblower/CIA coup. If he didn't want to leave the impression that he approves, he could certainly have been clearer (we don't all have hours and hours of time to read his tweets to see a clarification 79 tweets later).

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House Democrats consider masking identity of whistleblower from Trump's GOP allies in Congress

Source: Washington Post


House Democrats eager to protect a whistleblower who raised alarms over President Trump pressuring a foreign leader to investigate a political rival are considering testimony at a remote location and possibly obscuring the individual’s appearance and voice — extraordinary moves to prevent Trump’s congressional allies from revealing the identity, according to three officials familiar with the discussions.

Democratic investigators are concerned that without such rare precautions, Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee could learn and then leak the identity of the whistleblower, who has agreed to answer questions before the intelligence committees in the House and Senate. Democrats overseeing the logistics of the testimony for the House impeachment inquiry are discussing a location away from the Capitol as well as a staff-only session that would prevent lawmakers from attending and asking questions.

Aides have considered having the whistleblower testify from a separate location via a video hookup in which the camera would obscure the whistleblower’s image and alter his voice, possibly with modification technology. They also are talking about having the whistleblower sit behind a screen or partition. A third option being floated includes audio-only testimony.

“Schiff does not want to burn his identity,” a senior congressional official said. “There are lots of different protocols and procedures we’re looking into to find out what works and doesn’t work to protect the identity of the whistleblower,” said a different official familiar with the talks. “That is paramount.” The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to freely describe private deliberations.

 


Read more: https://www.washingt...fd44_story.html



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Ohio GOP Sen. Rob Portman: Trump wrong to seek help from Ukraine, China

Source: Columbus Dispatch



While he still says impeachment is too extreme, Sen. Rob Portman readily acknowledged today that President Donald Trump should not have asked the Ukraine or China for help investigating former Vice President Joe Biden.

The Ohio Republican also disputed Trump’s characterization of an ousted Ukrainian as an aggressive battler of corruption, whom the president asserts was fired because he was digging into Biden and his son Hunter’s business dealings. Portman was part of a bipartisan group of senators who wrote a letter to the Ukraine president in 2016 seeking reforms in the prosecutor’s office; today, Portman said the senators believed the prosecutor wasn’t doing nearly enough to root out corruption — not because he was doing too much.

And although Portman confirmed that Trump cited a lack of help from European nations as a reason for holding up aid authorized by Congress for Ukraine, the senator said he never heard that assertion until he spoke to the president personally Sept. 11. Earlier conversations with Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of Defense Mark T. Esper and other Trump administration officials turned up no reason for the hold-up, Portman said.

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Portman also expressed dismay that Trump offered the services of U.S. Attorney General William Barr and the president’s personal attorney, Rudolph Giuliani, to help the Ukrainians in the twin probes.

 

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Read more: https://www.dispatch...m-ukraine-china



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