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Yes, this is something unhealthy.



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There are apparently already reports of Turkish shelling in Kurdish territory.  I guess we'll have to see whose predictions were right about the outcome -- Tracey or Chomsky.



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The US Just Blacklisted China’s Most Valuable Facial Recognition Startups Over Human Rights Abuses

https://www.buzzfeed...e-yitu-xinjiang

Sounds like Trump may have done something good here. The far-Left will complain it's all a CIA fabrication by the sinophobic Trump administration -- the Uyghurs are doing just fine, and it's a gross exaggeration that many are in prison camps.

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Subpoenas issued in impeachment inquiry following blocking of ambassador deposition

By Jeremy Herb, Katelyn Polantz and Manu Raju, CNN

Updated 6:35 PM ET, Tue October 8, 2019


(CNN)House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff on Tuesday called the State Department's blocking testimony of a key witness "strong evidence of obstruction" of Democrats' impeachment investigation, and the move prompted House Democrats to issue a subpoena in response.

The State Department on Tuesday directed US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland not to testify before Congress, scrambling Democrats' impeachment investigation and raising questions about whether they will be able to obtain testimony from other witnesses. But Schiff's sharp response to Sondland's absence is a sign of the escalating impeachment fight between the White House and Democrats.

"The failure to produce this witness, the failure to produce these documents, we consider yet additional strong evidence of obstruction of the constitutional functions of Congress," Schiff told reporters.
In addition to blocking Sondland's testimony, Schiff said the ambassador indicated he had text messages or emails on a personal device provided to the State Department that State was withholding from Congress.

The subpoena issued Tuesday evening demanded Sondland turn over documents by Monday, October 14, and appear for a deposition on Wednesday, October 16.

 

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/...ment/index.html



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DOJ: If Watergate Happened Today, We'd Block Evidence From Congress
 
The White House efforts to obstruct Congress’ impeachment investigation reached new and dramatic heights both on the Hill and in federal court on Tuesday. In a story that garnered widespread attention, the State Department in the morning blocked a critical witness in Congress’ impeachment inquiry from testifying about President Donald Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political rivals and potentially tie critical military aid to those investigations.

Meanwhile, in a less-noticed federal court hearing later in the day, the Department of Justice sought to block the release of the remaining redacted materials of the Mueller report and underlying evidence from Congress, arguing that if Watergate happened today, it would be able to prevent the release of grand jury evidence to Congress and the public.

To keep the evidence from Congress, the Justice Department is seeking to overturn a critical Nixon-era case that allowed the Watergate grand jury to turn over evidence to congressional investigators as part of an impeachment inquiry. The government’s “extraordinary position” made Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell of the District Court for the District of Columbia say, “Wow.”

The exasperated moment came as part of a hearing on the House Judiciary Committee’s request for Howell to issue an order commanding the DOJ to turn over the remaining redacted portions of the Mueller report along with critical underlying evidence.

The precedent in question rests on the 1974 case Haldeman v. Sirica.

In March 1974, shortly after Congress initiated its impeachment inquiry of President Richard Nixon, then-Chief Judge John Sirica, ordered materials from the Watergate grand jury turned over to Congress in what would come to be known as the “Watergate road map” for impeachment. Defendants accused of and eventually convicted for trying to cover up Watergate argued that Rule 6(E) of the federal code governing grand juries, which lays out limited exceptions that allow the disclosure of grand jury materials, prevented the release. Sirica ruled that an impeachment, as a judicial proceeding, qualified as one of those exceptions and thus the materials had to be released to Congress.

 



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Nancy Pelosi: "Mr. President, you are not above the law. You will be held accountable."
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.@realDonaldTrump, you are not above the law. You will be held accountable. #TruthExposed https://www.speaker....ewsroom/10819-0



Pelosi Statement on Trump Administration Refusal to Comply with House Subpoenas
October 8, 2019
Press Release

Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi released this statement when the White House asserted that the Administration will not comply with House Committee subpoenas as part of the impeachment inquiry, making false claims about the Constitution, House rules and House precedent:

“For a while, the President has tried to normalize lawlessness. Now, he is trying to make lawlessness a virtue. The American people have already heard the President’s own words – ‘do us a favor, though.’ The President’s actions threaten our national security, violate our Constitution and undermine the integrity of our elections. The White House letter is only the latest attempt to cover up his betrayal of our democracy, and to insist that the President is above the law.

“This letter is manifestly wrong, and is simply another unlawful attempt to hide the facts of the Trump Administration’s brazen efforts to pressure foreign powers to intervene in the 2020 elections. Despite the White House’s stonewalling, we see a growing body of evidence that shows that President Trump abused his office and violated his oath to ‘protect, preserve and defend the Constitution.’

“The White House should be warned that continued efforts to hide the truth of the President’s abuse of power from the American people will be regarded as further evidence of obstruction.

“Mr. President, you are not above the law. You will be held accountable.”

 



https://www.speaker....ewsroom/10819-0


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Opinion piece: White House letter on impeachment inquiry
plunges America into a full-blown constitutional crisis

 

 

https://www.alternet...utional-crisis/

 

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(Alternet) The leading headline on the New York Times site on Tuesday evening was, “White House Declares War on Impeachment Inquiry.” That refers to the astonishing letter produced by the White House counsel’s office declaring that the impeachment inquiry is invalid because the Democrats are seeking to overturn the 2016 election. Since impeachment, by definition, is a constitutional process to overturn an election, that contention is embarrassingly daft.

 

…It attacks House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., in particular, for his recent public paraphrase of the famous phone call between Trump and the Ukrainian president — contending, bizarrely, that it proves the president is innocent of wrongdoing. Trump and White House counsel Pat Cipollone apparently see this banal event as some kind of smoking gun, even though anyone who watched the Intelligence Committee hearing had no confusion about the matter, and the “rough transcript” the White House released has been read by far more people than saw that hearing. The president’s own words are the problem, not Adam Schiff’s.

 

…The DOJ has held that a sitting president can’t be indicted because the Constitution specifically orders a political process for presidential misconduct. That was the reason Robert Mueller did not file obstruction of justice charges against the president overwhelming evidence of his crimes.

 

Now the White House counsel has declared that this alternative process is illegitimate because it is political and therefore the American people must make the final decision in the next election. Mind you, the president has specifically been accused of attempting to sabotage the next election. It’s a truly awe-inspiring Catch-22.

 

The question before us now is whether the courts will back this imperial view of the presidency, and if they don’t, whether or not Trump will adhere to their rulings. The White House has more or less respected judicial actions up until now. But that was before this declaration of “war” — a war Trump and his henchmen are clearly determined to win by any means necessary

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Polls Show Dramatic Shift on Impeachment, Bad News for Trump

 

https://www.usnews.c...-news-for-trump

 

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(US News and World Report) A STRONG MAJORITY OF Americans support an impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump, and nearly half say he should be removed from office, according to a new Washington Post-Schar School poll released Monday. The numbers are potentially devastating to Trump, who has seen the public mood on impeachment move dramatically amid revelations he appeared to condition desperately-needed U.S. aid to Ukraine with help in his 2020 re-election bid.

 

The survey found that 58% of Americans support the House of Representatives' "impeachment inquiry" of Trump, and 38% disapprove.

 

Perhaps more troubling for the president, 49% said they agree that the House should actually impeach Trump and call for his removal from office.


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Trump's impeachment polling is historically unprecedented

 

 

https://www.cnn.com/...ling/index.html

 

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(CNN)The poll numbers are in on impeachment, and it's not good news for President Donald Trump. A clear plurality of Americans approve of the House's impeachment inquiry into Trump, and they are split on whether they want to impeach and remove him from office.

 

Americans are more eager to impeach Trump now than they were at similar points in the impeachment sagas of Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon.
 
Impeachment actions usually start off as being unpopular with the American public. After the House voted to start an impeachment inquiry of Clinton in October 1998, a CBS News/New York Times poll found that 45% approved and 53% disapproved.
 
But with Trump, those numbers are reversed. In an average of polls taken since House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a formal inquiry last week, 51% support an impeachment inquiry. A minority, 44%, are against it.

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Senate Report Say Russia Helped Trump—and Is Still Messing in US Elections
 

 

https://www.motherjo...t-social-media/

 

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(Mother Jones) The Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee has found that the Kremlin directed a social media campaign in advance of the 2016 elections that “overtly and almost invariably” aimed to help Donald Trump—and that it is still at it.

 

In a report released Tuesday, the committee endorsed an Intelligence Community assessment issued in the last days of the Obama administration that Russian interference was intended to benefit Trump, a conclusion the president has never accepted. 

 

Russian efforts to use social media to manipulate American politics likely haven’t stopped.

 

The conclusion marks a subtle shift by GOP senators on the committee.


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New Fox News poll: A new high of 51% wants Trump impeached and removed from office. https://fxn.ws/2VCTjXj 

 

Fox News, Oct. 6-8, 1003 RV (change from July)

Do you think President Trump should be impeached and removed from office?

Yes 51 (+9)
No 43 (-7)



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Read the details of the whistleblower's original memo, written the day after the Trump-Zelensky call: https://www.cbsnews....news-exclusive/.  One tidbit:
 

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The official described the call as "crazy," "frightening" and "completely lacking in substance related to national security." The official asserted that the President used the call to persuade Ukrainian authorities to investigate his political rivals, chiefly former Vice President Biden and his son, Hunter. The official stated that there was already a conversation underway with White House lawyers about how to handle the discussion because, in the official's view, the President had clearly committed a criminal act by urging a foreign power to investigate a U.S. person for the purposes of advancing his own reelection bid in 2020.

 



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NBC NewsVerified account @NBCNews

 
 
 
 

NEW: Fiona Hill plans to testify to Congress that Giuliani and Amb. Sondland circumvented National Security Council and normal White House process to run shadow Ukraine policy, person familiar with her testimony tells @NBCNews - @JoshNBCNews



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Indicted pro-TRUMP Ukraine researcher PARNAS told people he paid GIULIANI 100s of 1000s of dollars
 

SCOOP: Indicted pro-TRUMP Ukraine researcher LEV PARNAS told people he paid RUDY GIULIANI hundreds of thousands of dollars to work for his firm, Fraud Guarantee.

Giuliani first seemed to admit working for the firm in 2018, then said he couldn't confirm.

 

 

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Lev Parnas, a Ukrainian-American businessman with a trail of debts and lawsuits, had known Mr. Giuliani casually for years through Republican political circles. Last year, their relationship deepened when a company he helped found retained Mr. Giuliani — associates of Mr. Parnas said he told them he paid hundreds of thousands of dollars — for what Mr. Giuliani said on Thursday was business and legal advice,” the paper noted.

 


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https://www.rawstory...-associate-nyt/



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Trump's former Russia aide set to give revealing testimony on Giuliani, Sondland

By Josh Lederman, Carol E. Lee and Kristen Welker NBC News

https://www.nbcnews....uliani-n1064846

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WASHINGTON — Fiona Hill, who was until recently President Donald Trump’s top aide on Russia and Europe, plans to tell Congress that Rudy Giuliani and E.U. ambassador Gordon Sondland circumvented the National Security Council and the normal White House process to pursue a shadow policy on Ukraine, a person familiar with her expected testimony told NBC News.

Hill’s appearance next week before Congress has stoked fear among people close to the president, said a former senior White House official, given her central role overseeing Russia and Ukraine policy throughout most of the Trump administration.

Her plans to testify also pose a key test for whether congressional committees pursuing an impeachment inquiry can obtain testimony from other former officials who have left the administration, given the possibility that the White House may try to assert executive privilege to stop them from testifying.

Hill plans to say that Giuliani and Sondland side-stepped the proper process for accessing Trump on Ukraine issues, the person familiar with her expected testimony said, including circumventing John Bolton, who was Trump’s national security adviser until September.

 



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WAPO: Ousted ambassador Marie Yovanovitch tells Congress Trump pressured State Dept. to remove her

The former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine whose abrupt ouster in May has become a topic of interest for House impeachment investigators said Friday that her departure came as a direct result of pressure President Trump placed on the State Department to remove her, according to her prepared remarks before Congress obtained by The Washington Post.

Marie Yovanovitch told lawmakers that she was forced to leave Kiev on “the next plane” this spring and subsequently removed from her post, with the State Department’s No. 2 official telling her that, though she had done nothing wrong, the president had lost confidence in her and the State Department had been under significant pressure to remove her since the summer of 2018.

[Read Marie Yovanovitch’s prepared deposition statement]

In explaining her departure, she acknowledged months of criticisms by Trump’s personal attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani, who had accused her of privately badmouthing the president and seeking to protect the interests of former vice president Joe Biden and his son who served on the board of Ukrainian energy company.

 

 

More at link: https://www.washingt...7b37_story.html



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Larry Hogan comes out in support of Trump impeachment inquiry

Source: Politico

 


Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan publicly expressed support for the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump, joining a small but growing number of Republicans breaking from the party’s mostly unwavering support of the president.

“I think we do need an inquiry because we have to get to the bottom of it,” Hogan said in a segment on PBS’ Firing Line that airs Friday night. “I’m not ready to say I support impeachment and the removal of the president, but I do think we should have an impeachment inquiry.”

 

Read more: https://www.politico...eachment-044378



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Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents

Source: CNN


Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump on Friday lost his appeal to stop a House subpoena of his tax documents from his longtime accountant Mazars USA. In a 2-1 ruling, the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld a lower court ruling saying the firm must turn over eight years of accounting records.

It's the first major case at the appeals court level in the ongoing standoff between the House and Trump. The President has lost all of his challenges so far that have been decided at the trial court level to stop House subpoenas. Trump may appeal to the Supreme Court to stop Mazars, but courts including the Supreme Court previously have refused to curtail Congress' subpoena power.

The appeals court broadly supported the House's power to subpoena information about Trump as it investigates him and considers laws in response, calling the subpoena "valid and enforceable." "A congressional committee, as committees have done repeatedly over the past two centuries, issued an investigative subpoena, and the target of that subpoena, questioning the committee's legislative purpose, has asked a court to invalidate it," the majority opinion states. "The fact that the subpoena in this case seeks information that concerns the President of the United States adds a twist, but not a surprising one."

Judges David Tatel, an appointee of President Bill Clinton, wrote the majority opinion, joined by Judge Patricia Millett, an appointee of President Barack Obama. Trump appointee Judge Neomi Rao dissented. Though the court's decision was split, the case is widely considered to be a tough one for Trump, even with support from the Justice Department.

 


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/...sion/index.html


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More Potential Whistleblowers Are Contacting Congress

Source: The Daily Beast


New potential whistleblowers are coming forward to the House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry, two congressional sources tell The Daily Beast.

They seem to be emboldened by the actions of the whistleblower whose explosive account of President Donald Trump’s phone call to Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky about investigating Trump’s domestic political rivals ignited the impeachment inquiry. Another whistleblower is known to have come forward.

Congressional investigators are currently vetting the new accounts they’ve received for credibility. Accordingly, knowledgeable sources would not discuss where in the government these new would-be whistleblowers come from, nor what they purport to have to say.

It’s also unknown if their accounts are as significant as that of the intelligence whistleblower whose alarm over President Trump’s July 25 phone call sparked the impeachment probe. Investigators often encounter cranks as well as those with genuine knowledge of wrongdoing. Nor is it clear if these new ostensible whistleblowers have contacted any inspectors general, as the original two whistleblowers did.

 

Read more: https://www.thedaily...ia=twitter_page







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