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Bill Barr Is Threatening To Take Down Any FBI Official Who Investigates Election Interference
https://www.politicu...terference.html

After his own inspector general report debunked the so-called “deep state” conspiracy theories pushed by Donald Trump, attorney general William Barr has been running a public relations campaign to convince the American people that the IG’s findings are all wrong.

Not only is Barr trashing his own IG report, but he’s also using his PR blitz to send a threatening message to FBI officials who investigate foreign election interference.

“He did a whole TV blitz to basically say that his own agency, the FBI, was spying on the Trump campaign, something that the inspector general said did not happen,” MSNBC’s Joy Reid said on Saturday.

Reid said that the attorney general’s media campaign is also sending a message to FBI agents that “if you go ahead and investigate foreign interference in our election, William Barr may come after you.”

 

 



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Fox Hits Trump With Bad News As 54% Of Voters Want Him Impeached

By Jason Easley at Politicususa

https://www.politicu...mpeachment.html

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A new Fox News poll has found that Trump’s approval rating is still under 50%, and 54% of voters want Donald Trump to be impeached.

Via Fox News:

The poll, conducted Sunday through Wednesday, also finds 50 percent want Trump impeached and removed from office, 4 percent say impeached but not removed, and 41 percent oppose impeaching him altogether.

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Most Democrats (85 percent) favor impeaching/removing Trump from office, while most Republicans (84 percent) are opposed. A new high of 45 percent of independents favor impeachment, up from 38 in late October.

Overall, 53 percent of voters believe Trump abused the power of his office, 48 percent think he obstructed Congress, and 45 percent say he committed bribery.

.....SNIP"

 



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Nadler Says GOP Senators Violating Oath

December 15, 2019 at 5:25 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 76 Comments

https://politicalwir...violating-oath/

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House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler accused Senate Republicans of violating their oath to be impartial jurors in an impeachment trial, as GOP senators defended their right to work for President Trump’s acquittal, the Washington Post reports.

Said Nadler: “That’s in violation of the oath that they’re about to take, and it’s a complete subversion of the constitutional scheme,”

 



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Schumer sends letter to McConnell suggesting 4 witnesses and ground rules for impeachment trial

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NEWS: Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer sends letter to McConnell suggesting 4 witnesses and ground rules for upcoming impeachment trial. His witnesses include Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton. Michael Duffey and Robert Blair.




 

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House Judiciary Committee impeachment report just released https://docs.house.g...-116hrpt346.pdf

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***House Report: Trump committed CRIMINAL bribery and wire fraud***
 
President Donald Trump committed criminal bribery and wire fraud, the House Judiciary Committee alleges in a report that will accompany articles of impeachment this week.

The report, a 169-page assessment of the case for Trump’s removal from office, contends that Trump committed “multiple federal crimes” — ones that Democrats addressed under the broad umbrella of “abuse of power,” the first article of impeachment against the president.

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Democrats argue that Trump crossed the threshold into criminal behavior with his posture toward Zelensky, writing in the report that his request for the announcement of politically motivated investigations constituted the solicitation of a bribe under federal law.

Those investigations were valuable to Trump personally, and he used his official power to schedule a state visit and withhold military aid to obtain them, the panel says.

These actions are a “corrupt” use of Trump’s authority that satisfies the final element of a bribery crime, Democrats argue.

The committee also alleges that Trump violated the honest services wire fraud statute during the July 25 phone call, as well as during a separate phone call a day later with Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union. Those “foreign wire communications” were done “in furtherance of an ongoing bribery scheme,” according to the report.

 



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Mitch McConnell: 'I'm not an impartial juror'

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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, speaking after policy lunches today, admitted he's not impartial juror.

"I’m not impartial juror," he said. "This is a political process."

The Kentucky Republican continued: “I would anticipate we will have a largely partisan outcome in the Senate."

“I’m not impartial about this at all," he added.

 

 

https://www.cnn.com/...e34707dd4cfd95d



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Impeachment live updates: House Democrats have enough votes to impeach Trump, according to a Post analysis

 

 

A majority of House lawmakers have said they plan to support at least one article of impeachment against President Trump. No Republicans have said they will break ranks in the full House vote, which is expected Wednesday.

Earlier Tuesday, Trump sent an extraordinary letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) expressing his “strongest and most powerful protest” against impeachment, which he described as a partisan “crusade” by Democrats.

 

https://www.washingt...51db_story.html



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Trump impeached by the House for abuse of power

 

President Donald J. Trump was impeached on Wednesday. For the third time in the nation's history, the House of Representatives voted to impeach a sitting president, following a day-long debate on whether Trump violated his oath in pressuring Ukraine to damage a political opponent.

 

The vote, which was still ongoing, to impeach Trump for abuse of power was almost entirely on party lines and was to be followed quickly by a second vote on whether Trump obstructed Congress.

 

The Senate trial on whether to remove the president will begin in early January.



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Speaker Nancy Pelosi threatens to delay Trump’s Senate impeachment trial

 

https://www.politico...eachment-trial/

 

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(P0litico) WASHINGTON — U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi refused to commit Wednesday to delivering articles of impeachment to the Senate, citing concerns about an unfair trial on removing President Donald Trump from office.

 

Senior Democratic aides said the House was “very unlikely” to take the steps necessary to send the articles to the Senate until at least early January, a delay of at least two weeks and perhaps longer.

 

“So far we haven’t seen anything that looks fair to us,” Pelosi told reporters at a news conference just moments after the House charged Trump with abuse of power and obstructing congressional investigations. “That would’ve been our intention, but we’ll see what happens over there.”

 

Pelosi’s comments, which echo suggestions raised by other Democrats throughout the day, inject new uncertainty into the impeachment timetable and send the House and Senate lurching toward a potential institutional crisis.

 

Though the House adopted two articles of impeachment charging Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of congressional investigations, it must pass a second resolution formally naming impeachment managers to present the case in the Senate. That second vehicle triggers the official transmission of articles to the Senate.

 

https://www.business...essions-2019-12

 

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(Business Insider) Democrats have criticized comments by McConnell in a recent Fox News interview, in which he said he was not impartial and was working closely with the White House to set the terms of the trial.

 

"Everything I do during this, I'm coordinating with the White House counsel," he said. "There will be no difference between the president's position and our position as to how to handle this to the extent that we can."

 

…"This is what I don't consider a fair trial," she (Nancy Pelosi) said. "That Leader McConnell has stated that he's not an impartial juror, that he's going to take his cues, in quotes, from the White House, and he's working in total coordination with the White House counsel's office." 

 

McConnell, when asked about a delay, shrugged it off.

 

"I'm in no hurry," he said, according to David Drucker of the Washington Examiner.

 

https://theweek.com/...mitch-mcconnell

 

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(The Week) "We cannot name managers until we see what the process is on the Senate side," Pelosi said. "So far we haven't seen anything that looks fair to us. So hopefully it will be fair. And when we see what that is, we'll send our managers." She added that she and her lieutenants aren't having "that discussion" about indefinitely withholding the articles of impeachment, denying Trump his trial and presumptive acquittal, but "we're not sending it tonight because it's difficult to determine who the managers would be until we see the arena in which we will be participating."

 

Pelosi has no time constraints to pick the managers under the House impeachment rules adopted Wednesday, and the House is expected to go on recess as soon as Thursday, with no plans to return until Jan. 7.

 

The idea of keeping the articles of impeachment as leverage to shape the Senate trial, or even collect new evidence, gained traction after constitutional law scholar Laurence Tribe advocated for the strategy in a Washington Post op-ed, arguing "the public has a right to observe a meaningful trial rather than simply learn that the result is a verdict of not guilty." And House Democrats began pressing Pelosi to consider the move as McConnell confirmed he's coordinating trial strategy with the White House and signaled he plans to conduct a swift trial and get a swift acquittal.

 

https://www.washingt...202f-11ea-a153-

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(Washington Post – Lawrence Tribe) For some time now, I have been emphasizing the duty to impeach this president for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress regardless of what the Senate might end up doing. Now that President Trump’s impeachment is inevitable (written before the impeachment vote), and now that failing to formally impeach him would invite foreign intervention in the 2020 election and set a dangerous precedent, another option seems vital to consider: voting for articles of impeachment but holding off for the time being on transmitting them to the Senate.

 

This option needs to be taken seriously now that Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has announced his intention to conduct not a real trial but a whitewash, letting the president and his legal team call the shots.

 

Such an approach could have both tactical and substantive benefits. As a tactical matter, it could strengthen Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer’s (D-N.Y.) hand in bargaining over trial rules with McConnell because of McConnell’s and Trump’s urgent desire to get this whole business behind them. On a substantive level, it would be justified to withhold going forward with a Senate trial. Under the current circumstances, such a proceeding would fail to render a meaningful verdict of acquittal. It would also fail to inform the public, which has the right to know the truth about the conduct of its president.


The principles of justice define an appropriate path between dogmatism and intolerance on the one side, and a reductionism which regards religion and morality as mere preferences on the other.   - John Rawls


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Trump administration pushes back on bill meant to deter Russia
 
(CNN) - The Trump administration is pushing back on a wide-ranging piece of legislation meant to deter and punish Russian aggression and its interference in the 2016 election.

In a 22-page letter to Congress dated Tuesday, a senior State Department official outlined a series of concerns about the bill, calling it "unnecessary" and in need of "significant changes."

"The Administration shares the goal of deterring and countering Russian subversion and aggression," Bureau of Legislative Affairs Assistant Secretary Mary Elizabeth Taylor wrote in the letter, which was obtained by CNN. However, she said the administration "strongly opposes" the bill in its current form.

The Daily Beast was the first to report on the contents of the letter, sent exactly a week after Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov met with President Donald Trump in the Oval Office.

 



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The man who could ruin McConnell’s plan for a sham impeachment trial

 

https://www.alternet...eachment-trial/

 

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(Alternet).…we have yet to hear from the Chief Justice, who normally is a big defender of the independence of the role of the judiciary. McConnell insists that while Chief Justice Roberts is assigned by the Constitution to preside over the proceedings, it is he who controls majority votes that will decide on evidence decisions, timing, and the procedures for the “trial.”

 

No Pushover

 

Bruce Ackerman in Slate argues more or less what I’ve been suggesting–that Roberts probably is no pushover. His thesis is that the Senate’s own Rules of Procedure and Practice specifies that it is the “presiding officer” who “shall direct all forms of the proceedings,” and that he may “rule on all questions of evidence including, but not limited to, questions of relevancy, materiality, and redundancy of evidence.”

 

That means it should be Roberts, not McConnell, who decides, even in the limited role granted the presiding officer.

 

Slate notes that the rules explicitly grant “any member of the Senate” the right to object to Roberts’ evidentiary decisions, and if the chief justice stands firm in his opinion, a senator may demand “a vote of the Members of the Senate” on “any such question”—with a simple majority sufficient to overturn Roberts’ ruling.

 

Strict Senate Rules

 

Still, the Senate majority’s authority is strictly constrained by the rules it has itself established. While it can reverse particular evidentiary rulings, it can’t bar anybody from appearing as a witness. Instead, it is up to the lawyers representing the House and the president to make these critical decisions, with the proviso that “witnesses shall be examined by one person on behalf of the party producing them, and then cross-examined by one person on the other side.”


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Pelosi is crushing McConnell, step by strategic step

 

https://www.alternet...strategic-step/

 

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(Alternet) What Pelosi has been setting up from the start on impeachment is a contrast in caucuses. She has repeatedly and consistently signaled great reluctance to impeach Trump, promised that her caucus would “follow the facts,” and insisted that Trump’s actions left Democrats “no choice” but to act in order to live up to their sworn oath to protect the Constitution of the United States. When a smattering of cheers started to erupt in the lower chamber following the initial vote to impeach Trump, Pelosi silenced it immediately, leveling a brief hand gesture and a look of death at her caucus.

 

By comparison, McConnell has played right into Pelosi’s hands by prejudging the Senate verdict on national television. On Wednesday night, she leveraged her platform to make certain Americans were aware of the stark and substantive differences between the Democratic and the Republican processes.

 

Washington pundits are fond of observing that McConnell is a masterful tactician. But what McConnell’s best at is exercising raw power in order to tear down institutions and rewrite the rules to his advantage. What Pelosi excels at is understanding the power of the people and the politics of vote-counting through that lens. Oftentimes, a politician’s greatest strength is also their greatest weakness. Pelosi has put McConnell’s “greatest strength” on trial for the American people to judge in 2020. And, based on the polling, nearly everyone outside of Trump’s cultists is predisposed to side with Democrats.

 

Pelosi gets this, and she also knows that the longer she waits to transmit those articles, the worse it gets for McConnell. Trump will get absolutely rabid in his desire for acquittal, making vulnerable GOP senators even more anxious. And the more time that passes, the greater the likelihood of good court rulings that put more documents and witnesses in the offing. Refusing to take them up will only make McConnell look more partisan, more unfair, and more unfaithful to democracy. So Pelosi might take a bit to transmit those articles to the Senate.

 

“Nancy’s gonna hold it in her pocket,” former RNC chair Michael Steele predicted Thursday on MSNBC. “She’s going to wait and see what McConnell puts on the table and she’s going to force the negotiation between Schumer and McConnell on her terms.”


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Christianity Today, a leading evangelical magazine, calls for Trump's removal: https://www.christia...rom-office.html.



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First Post Impeachment Poll -Poll: Majority approves of Trump's impeachment
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Poll: Majority approves of Trump's impeachment
The new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll also shows an identical 52 percent would approve of the Senate voting to remove Trump from offic



https://www.politico...eachment-088812


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An opinion I fully agree with:

 

The Frozen Impeachment (in Russian)

 

A rough translation:

 

The US Democratic Party refuses to transfer the Trump’s impeachment case to the Senate under the pretext that the Senate "will not conduct an honest and objective investigation.” In fact, the whole process of “impeachment” has frozen, since the transfer of the case to the Senate will lead to easily predictable results: the Republicans have already announced that they will acquit Trump and the whole process will be used rather to hear the witnesses of Democratic leaders' falsifications as well as the participation of Biden and Co in corruption schemes in Ukraine.

 

For the Democratic Party, this scenario does not bode anything but total fiasco, so they switched to the tactic of delaying the process in order to keep the "impeachment" topic in the public and media focus for as long as possible, but at the same time not to give it a logical continuation. This once again shows the "impeachment" game is played out with useless cards, but the Democratic party no longer has any other ways to fight back against accusations of Ukrainian corruption. Their only remaining way out is to raise the stakes.

 

Of course, the White House is interested in “impeachment” case being played out to the very end and drowned in the Senate. That's why Trump continues to insist on a “trial”, which he expects to use against the Democrats. The longer the Democrats drag out the process, the more Trump and Co will bring the accusations of Ukrainian corruption. In this war of narratives, it is very important how the term “Ukraine” will be perceived: as a country whose president has been pressed by Trump or as a country where Ukrainian and American officials stole tens of billions of dollars. The first scenario will drown Trump, the second one will drown the top of the Democratic Party.

 

Exactly as I thought since very beginning: the only thing Democrats achieved is producing the stillborn and useless (even dangerous) piece of paper, that will rather help Trump to be reelected... that's what going on when spite and fear prevail over cold reason.



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A 10:30 PM Tweet from Trump, re-tweeting a Putin quote on impeachment via AP. Just lovely.

Donald J. Trump
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A total Witch Hunt!

10:30 PM · Dec 20, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

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BREAKING: Russian President Vladimir Putin says U.S. President Donald Trump's impeachment is far-fetched and predicts the U.S. Senate will reject it. http://apne.ws/QSginnX
 

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