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I'm not happy with Bidden/Harris winning, because it makes proponents of 'cancel culture' happy. And I don't like 'cancel culture', BLM or Antifa.

 

An abhorring recent example: a journalist said that there are only two genders, so her voice was removed from Watch Dogs: Legion video game by SJW company Ubisoft. Men are kicked out from their jobs for speaking what they believe is right. Like showing an actual data that there's no systemic police injustice against blacks in particular (just sometimes bad cops).

My friend, you don't have to like the winner of an election to accept them. That's how democracy works. There is so much more at stake here from Trump baselessly attacking the most fundamental pillar of democracy, the election, than sticking it to liberals. I'm no fan of those cancel culture types either, it's one the left's faults that led to the rise of Trump and populism. But the issue here is much bigger than them. Gore conceded to Bush. Hillary conceded to Trump. Obama, as lame duck president when Trump won, didn't try to denigrate the electoral process by pushing some conspiracy theory about unproven fraud. You don't have to like Democrats, but to attack America's democracy like Trump is doing right now is something no one has done in the US' history. 



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Top Republicans back Trump’s efforts to challenge election results

This is why I'm becoming more and more alarmed. The only Republicans who have accepted the election result are the ones who don't matter; the weak, forgotten ones. Mitt Romney? He's been alone in criticizing Trump among Republicans over the past four years. George Bush? Please, the man is a fossil of another era, what influence does he have? The only ones who have spoken up are the independents, a small minority of the Republican party. The Republicans that matter, Mitch McConnell, Steve Scalise, Lindsey Graham, and so on, have either been silent or come out in support of Trump's conspiracy theory. Some journalists are saying this a ploy to get Trump's voters out in Georgia for the Senate run-offs in January. I think that's wishful thinking. They are really going to try and steal the election, and Republicans won't bat an eye. Just watch, this is going to end up in the Supreme Court and Trump's recently appointed lackeys (who helped give the election to Bush in 2000) are going to do their master's bidding.



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Pompeo: ‘There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration

https://www.politico...stration-435754
 

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Tuesday became the latest senior U.S. official to resist accepting the results of last week’s presidential election.

 
The chief U.S. diplomat even suggested — falsely, but possibly jokingly — that President Donald Trump had defeated Joe Biden.


If Trump & Co. actually do attempt a legit coup it will be met with high levels of unrest & riots. Biden has already been recognized as the winner of the election by a substantially large portion of Americans and several governments all across the world. It risk tearing America apart, and dragging it down completely to an unrecoverable place. 

To think they would even attempt this over a known Washington insider & moderate like Biden. The right wing in America are a bunch of worthless despicable cunts. Accept the fucking L and leave.



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If Trump & Co. actually do attempt a legit coup it will be met with high levels of unrest & riots. 

 

With the possibility the US Joint Chiefs of Staff intervening to restore democratic rule if they determine the system is not doing enough to prevent a coup. Extremely remote of that happening but possible.

 

My gut feeling is telling me that they have a secret contingency plan for this scenario. 


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Pompeo: ‘There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration

https://www.politico...stration-435754
 

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Tuesday became the latest senior U.S. official to resist accepting the results of last week’s presidential election.

 
The chief U.S. diplomat even suggested — falsely, but possibly jokingly — that President Donald Trump had defeated Joe Biden.

If Trump & Co. actually do attempt a legit coup it will be met with high levels of unrest & riots. Biden has already been recognized as the winner of the election by a substantially large portion of Americans and several governments all across the world. It risk tearing America apart, and dragging it down completely to an unrecoverable place. 

To think they would even attempt this over a known Washington insider & moderate like Biden. The right wing in America are a bunch of worthless despicable cunts. Accept the fucking L and leave.

Yep, it could ultimately end similar to Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine back in February 2014! :)



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Trump’s Challenge to the 2020 Vote: A State-by-State Guide

 

President Donald Trump’s challenge to the 2020 election results runs through six battleground states, five of which he won in 2016. This time around, Democrat Joe Biden has five-digit vote leads in all six states with some counting continuing, including three where he leads by more than 35,000 votes in each.

 
In order to reverse the results of last week’s vote and get the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, Trump would need to move at least three of those states into this column. He’s trying to achieve this through some combination of lawsuits and recounts that he hopes can flip the results. Experts say that would be a long shot in any one of the states and a virtual impossibility in several of them.
 
Here’s where Trump’s efforts stand in each of those six states:

Hopefully you haven't used up your free articles from Bloomberg for this month. The bottom line is that it's a very long shot for Trump to overturn the vote in any of the states, but it's not impossible. I'm no expert on US law, but presumably if the lower courts don't rule in his favour and he appeals the ruling, we could see these cases make it to the Supreme Court (and I think we all know what the outcome would be there).



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Trump’s Challenge to the 2020 Vote: A State-by-State Guide

 

President Donald Trump’s challenge to the 2020 election results runs through six battleground states, five of which he won in 2016. This time around, Democrat Joe Biden has five-digit vote leads in all six states with some counting continuing, including three where he leads by more than 35,000 votes in each.

 
In order to reverse the results of last week’s vote and get the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, Trump would need to move at least three of those states into this column. He’s trying to achieve this through some combination of lawsuits and recounts that he hopes can flip the results. Experts say that would be a long shot in any one of the states and a virtual impossibility in several of them.
 
Here’s where Trump’s efforts stand in each of those six states:

Hopefully you haven't used up your free articles from Bloomberg for this month. The bottom line is that it's a very long shot for Trump to overturn the vote in any of the states, but it's not impossible. I'm no expert on US law, but presumably if the lower courts don't rule in his favour and he appeals the ruling, we could see these cases make it to the Supreme Court (and I think we all know what the outcome would be there).

 

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Trump’s Challenge to the 2020 Vote: A State-by-State Guide

 

President Donald Trump’s challenge to the 2020 election results runs through six battleground states, five of which he won in 2016. This time around, Democrat Joe Biden has five-digit vote leads in all six states with some counting continuing, including three where he leads by more than 35,000 votes in each.

 
In order to reverse the results of last week’s vote and get the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, Trump would need to move at least three of those states into this column. He’s trying to achieve this through some combination of lawsuits and recounts that he hopes can flip the results. Experts say that would be a long shot in any one of the states and a virtual impossibility in several of them.
 
Here’s where Trump’s efforts stand in each of those six states:

Hopefully you haven't used up your free articles from Bloomberg for this month. The bottom line is that it's a very long shot for Trump to overturn the vote in any of the states, but it's not impossible. I'm no expert on US law, but presumably if the lower courts don't rule in his favour and he appeals the ruling, we could see these cases make it to the Supreme Court (and I think we all know what the outcome would be there).

 

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Trump’s Challenge to the 2020 Vote: A State-by-State Guide

 

President Donald Trump’s challenge to the 2020 election results runs through six battleground states, five of which he won in 2016. This time around, Democrat Joe Biden has five-digit vote leads in all six states with some counting continuing, including three where he leads by more than 35,000 votes in each.

 
In order to reverse the results of last week’s vote and get the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, Trump would need to move at least three of those states into this column. He’s trying to achieve this through some combination of lawsuits and recounts that he hopes can flip the results. Experts say that would be a long shot in any one of the states and a virtual impossibility in several of them.
 
Here’s where Trump’s efforts stand in each of those six states:

Hopefully you haven't used up your free articles from Bloomberg for this month. The bottom line is that it's a very long shot for Trump to overturn the vote in any of the states, but it's not impossible. I'm no expert on US law, but presumably if the lower courts don't rule in his favour and he appeals the ruling, we could see these cases make it to the Supreme Court (and I think we all know what the outcome would be there).

Even the US Supreme Court would hesitate to make rulings that seem overly absurd, IMHO.



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Biden's lead in the popular vote has now increased to 5,264,217 according to latest update from Decision Desk. Only Georgia remains to be fully counted.



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Biden's lead in the popular vote has now increased to 5,264,217 according to latest update from Decision Desk. Only Georgia remains to be fully counted.

Biden's victory is the largest popular vote victory for a presidential challenger since 1932, correct?



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Reagan 1980 came close with 50.7% of the national popular vote, but Biden already appears to have surpassed him with 50.8% of the national popular vote.



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Reagan 1980 came close with 50.7% of the national popular vote, but Biden already appears to have surpassed him with 50.8% of the national popular vote.

 

It gives further support to Biden's claim he has the mandate.


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It is alarming that so many Republicans are either supporting Trump in his bogus claims regarding a stolen election, or staying silent on the issue.  Finally, there are some coming forth to admit reality. All of the citations below are from Alternet.

 

https://www.alternet...oup-2648981437/

 

Mike DuHaime, a longtime GOP strategist, told WSJ (Wall Street Journal)  that it's time for the Trump campaign to stop playing games and accept that Trump won't be president after January 20th.

 

https://www.alternet...-against-trump/

 

The National Review's Andrew C. McCarthy and Commentary's Noah Rothman, in articles published this week, lay out some reasons why Trump's last-ditch efforts to change the election results aren't working.

 

Discussing the Trump campaign's lawsuits in Pennsylvania, McCarthy explains, "Realistically speaking, the legal battle over the 2020 election is over.

 

…Rothman notes that for Trump's allies, the "biggest impediment" to overturning the election results is "the votes of hundreds of thousands of Americans." But the Trump campaign's would-be "coup," according to Rothman, is more "pitiful" than anything — and their "desperate efforts to cling to power" are not working.

 

https://www.alternet...geraldo-rivera/

 

An airing of Fox News' "The Five" turned into a shouting match on Thursday evening when host Geraldo Rivera, a friend of President Donald Trump, urged his fellow panelists to admit that the scheme to overturn the result of the 2020 election was doomed.

 

https://www.alternet...want-trump-out/

 

On Thursday, Sens. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) and Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), two of the very few lawmakers willing to verbalize their disapproval of the president, condemned Trump's continued attempts to undermine the election results. Both released statements on Thursday evening challenging the president's post-election legal battles.

 

Romney took to Twitter with a statement criticizing the president's claims of "widespread fraud or conspiracy." He also scrutinized Trump for resorting to pressuring state and local officials to adhere to his own personal agenda.


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Judge Dismisses Trump Lawsuit Seeking to Delay Certification in Pennsylvania

 

A federal judge in Pennsylvania dismissed on Saturday night a lawsuit by the Trump campaign that had claimed there were widespread improprieties with mail-in ballots in the state, ending the last major effort to delay the certification of Pennsylvania’s vote results, which is scheduled to take place on Monday.

 
In a scathing order, Judge Matthew W. Brann wrote that President Trump’s campaign, which had asked him to effectively disenfranchise nearly seven million voters, should have come to court “armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption” in its efforts to essentially nullify the results of Pennsylvania’s election.
 
But instead, Judge Brann complained, the Trump campaign provided only “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations” that were “unsupported by evidence.”
 
After legal defeats in nearly all of the key swing states — Michigan, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona and Wisconsin — Mr. Trump’s path to overturning the results of the election through the courts has all but vanished. After Judge Brann handed down his order, Senator Pat Toomey, Republican of Pennsylvania, released a statement that called Joseph R. Biden Jr. the president-elect and said “President Trump should accept the outcome of the election and facilitate the presidential transition process.”


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Here are other Republicans who have established contact with the reality of Trump's loss:

 

https://www.cnn.com/...tion/index.html

 

(CNN) A staunch ally of Donald Trump said Sunday it was time for the President to end his futile gambit to overturn the results of the election.

 

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Trump has failed to provide any evidence of fraud, that his legal team was in shambles and that it's time to put the country first.

 

"If you have got the evidence of fraud, present it," Christie said on ABC, where he is a contributor. He decried efforts by the President's lawyers to smear Republican governors who have not gone along with the President's false claims of voter malfeasance.

 

"Quite frankly, the conduct of the President's legal team has been a national embarrassment," he said, singling out Trump attorney Sidney Powell's accusations against Georgia GOP Gov. Brian Kemp.

 

https://www.cnn.com/...lect/index.html

(Karl) Rove, who advised the White House and Trump campaign in the run-up to the 2020 election, said that in order for the President to win, he would need to "prove systemic fraud, with illegal votes in the tens of thousands," but that no such evidence currently exists.

 

…(Ohio Governor Mike) DeWine, who endorsed Trump for a second term, told CNN's John Berman on "New Day" Thursday after the race was called for Biden that "we need to consider the former vice president as the President-elect."

 

…(Maryland Governor Larry) Hogan, a moderate Republican who did not support Trump's reelection bid, congratulated Biden on his projected victory shortly after it was called by news organizations.

 

…(Maine Senator Susan) Collins, a moderate Republican who did not endorse Trump this year, is among a small list of Senate Republicans who have congratulated Biden.

 

...(Alaska Senator Lisa) Murkowski congratulated Biden and Harris in a statement hours after the race was called.

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^ Political self-preservation is kicking in. Trump is now a liability they want to get rid of.


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Judge Dismisses Trump Lawsuit Seeking to Delay Certification in Pennsylvania

 

A federal judge in Pennsylvania dismissed on Saturday night a lawsuit by the Trump campaign that had claimed there were widespread improprieties with mail-in ballots in the state, ending the last major effort to delay the certification of Pennsylvania’s vote results, which is scheduled to take place on Monday.

 
In a scathing order, Judge Matthew W. Brann wrote that President Trump’s campaign, which had asked him to effectively disenfranchise nearly seven million voters, should have come to court “armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption” in its efforts to essentially nullify the results of Pennsylvania’s election.
 
But instead, Judge Brann complained, the Trump campaign provided only “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations” that were “unsupported by evidence.”
 
After legal defeats in nearly all of the key swing states — Michigan, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona and Wisconsin — Mr. Trump’s path to overturning the results of the election through the courts has all but vanished. After Judge Brann handed down his order, Senator Pat Toomey, Republican of Pennsylvania, released a statement that called Joseph R. Biden Jr. the president-elect and said “President Trump should accept the outcome of the election and facilitate the presidential transition process.”

Excellent! :)

 

^ Political self-preservation is kicking in. Trump is now a liability they want to get rid of.

Yep. :)



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Dane County Clerk: Recount certified; no evidence of voter fraud

Source: channel 3000


MADISON, Wis. — The Dane County Board of Canvassers certified election results Sunday, concluding the county’s recount.

President-elect Joe Biden was declared the winner in Dane County.

The final results of the recount found a 91 vote reduction for Joe Biden, taking his vote count 260,185 to 260,094. There also was a 46 vote reduction for President Trump, changing his vote count from 788,800 to 787,554.
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McDonnell said that there was no evidence of voter fraud

 


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Black Lives Matter Helped Shape the 2020 election. The Movement Now Has Its Eyes on Georgia.

 

https://www.vox.com/...lection-georgia

 

Introduction:

(Vox) The police killings of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor set off protests like the nation has never seen — more than 15 million people marched in the name of justice for Black lives this summer. So it’s no surprise that the rallying cry out on the streets was still on voters’ minds when they cast their ballot in November.

 

According to preliminary data from AP VoteCast, a comprehensive survey conducted for the Associated Press by NORC at the University of Chicago, roughly a fifth of all voters said the racial justice protests were the single most important factor when voting in the election.

 

But just like Americans’ views on wearing a mask or social distancing, the protests have become a politically divisive issue — 53 percent of those voters went for Biden, 46 percent voted for Trump. Some conservative voters focused on the small percentage of looting and vandalism associated with the unrest, calling the protests “childish,” according to interviews conducted by the New York Times, while progressives and first-time voters were inspired by the movement to make radical change.

 

In the end, the Black Lives Matter movement and protests shaped the results of the election: Many organizers worked to get people out to vote, with Black voters turning out in droves, despite obstacles of voter suppression. Black voters also helped flip key battleground states like Georgia and Pennsylvania to elect Joe Biden, while voters in cities across the country approved ballot measures on police accountability.

 

Still, despite these wins, there is much work to be done, according to both activists and Democratic voters. Patrisse Cullors — one of three women founders of Black Lives Matter, along with Alicia Garza and Opal Tometi — says this work must remain constant and varied.


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