Jump to content

Welcome to FutureTimeline.forum
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

2020 US Presidential Election


  • Please log in to reply
574 replies to this topic

#541
Jessica

Jessica

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 776 posts

CA-Change Research: Warren 25%, Sanders 23%, Biden 18%

 

Warren - 25%
Sanders - 23%
Biden - 18%
Harris - 11%
Buttigieg - 10%
Yang - 3%
O'Rourke - 2%
Gabbard - 2%
Booker - 2%
Castro, Klobuchar, Williamson - 1%
Steyer, de Blasio, Bullock, Messam, Sestak, Bennet, Ryan, Delaney - 0%
 

Quote
This is the first KQED Political Breakdown/Change Research poll, which was conducted between Sept. 12-15 and asked 3,325 likely Democratic California primary voters who their top presidential choice was. The online survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 1.7%.

https://www.kqed.org...rs-biden-on-top


#542
Jessica

Jessica

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 776 posts
Joe Biden demands Trump release transcript of Ukraine call

Source: Axios


Former Vice President Joe Biden called for President Trump to release a transcript of his July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday, amid reports that Ukraine is at the center of a whistleblower's complaint over Trump's contacts with a foreign leader.

 


Read more: https://www.google.c...52e3bf309f.html



#543
starspawn0

starspawn0

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,229 posts
https://mobile.twitt...262354993733632
 

NEW: Wall Street donors are privately warning: We'll sit out, or back Trump, if you nominate Elizabeth Warren. “You’re a Democrat and you’re thinking, ‘I want to help the party, but she’s going to hurt me, so I’m going to help Trump,’” an executive said.


They're fine with Bernie Sanders, apparently. I guess they think that Bernie is good at verbal arguments and such, but doesn't have Warren's depth of underdtanding about the financial services and trading industries. She really knows how to shut them down, and where to look for shit they are trying to hide. She's been an deep thorn in the side of Wall Street for decades.

#544
Jessica

Jessica

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 776 posts
** New ** Michigan Poll - Biden 54%, Trump 35%

SEP 24-26

https://projects.fiv...polls/michigan/



#545
starspawn0

starspawn0

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,229 posts

Mark Zuckerberg leaked transcripts from Facebook meeting:

 

https://www.theverge...cebook-meetings

 

 

Sounds like they consider Elizabeth Warren their arch-enemy.



#546
johnnd

johnnd

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 45 posts

Bernie Sanders cancels campaign events until further notice after undergoing artery blockage surgery:

 

https://www.bbc.com/...canada-49911035


  • starspawn0 likes this

#547
starspawn0

starspawn0

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,229 posts

I've noticed people on the Left (far-Left) ratcheting-up the anti-Warren language.  They see Warren as a lot better than Hillary, but still too "corporate" and "neoliberal".  E.g. Matt Taibbi said the other day during a "Useful Idiots" podcast that Warren was much more pro-business and capitalist compared to Bernie.  His preferred candidate is Bernie.  If Bernie doesn't get better, then the far-Left part of the progressive movement may be faced with a choice of voting for Warren or not voting at all.  I would guess maybe 10% to 20% will choose the latter, based on ideological and purity considerations.

 

"If you can't do perfect, don't even try."


  • Erowind and johnnd like this

#548
johnnd

johnnd

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 45 posts

I've noticed people on the Left (far-Left) ratcheting-up the anti-Warren language.  They see Warren as a lot better than Hillary, but still too "corporate" and "neoliberal".  E.g. Matt Taibbi said the other day during a "Useful Idiots" podcast that Warren was much more pro-business and capitalist compared to Bernie.  His preferred candidate is Bernie.  If Bernie doesn't get better, then the far-Left part of the progressive movement may be faced with a choice of voting for Warren or not voting at all.  I would guess maybe 10% to 20% will choose the latter, based on ideological and purity considerations.

 

"If you can't do perfect, don't even try."

 

You have to remember that "far-Left" in the U.S. (without the authoritarian streak) equals "center-Right" in, e.g., Europe. Warren would be further right, still.

 

Generally, the consensus is that Warren seems to have good political instincts, but some horrible advisors - making her kind of flip-floppity and calculating, also with giant blind spots on foreign policy. Here are some reasons I have heard for why leftists prefer Sanders over Warren:

 

* Warren voted for Ben Carson to be the head of Housing and Urban Development, then flipped in the next round of voting after a massive backlash from supporters.

* Bernie wants to fully eliminate medical debt; Warren doesn't.

* Bernie wants to eliminate all student loan debt; Warren has a plan to eliminate some of it.

* Warren voted for Trump's bloated military budget; Bernie didn't.

* Warren has raised a lot of money from the military-industrial complex and engaged in pork barrel politics with Raytheon back in her home state (MA).

* Warren waffled on Sanders' 'Medicare for All' bill, which she co-signed, citing "lots of paths to get there" - i.e., Medicare for All/Extra/America/public option. Therefore, considerably less likely to pursue single-payer, but rather, "increased access".

* Warren has said she will not take big money in the primaries; but will do so in the General. But the dynamics of bought influence don't magically change in the General. What's worse, Warren wasn't even being truthful about the first point, having transferred over $10MM of the big money she raised in the 2018 Senate race to underwrite her 2020 bid.

* Warren endorsed Hillary over Bernie in 2016, even though Sanders is much closer to her ideologically. Again, this is telling of a much deeper level of calculation going on. It is possible she was vying for a VP spot (a great Machiavellian 3D chess move by Hillary, btw!).

* Warren embraces the language of bipartisanship, as opposed to class warfare. Made a 'spirited defense' of Blue Dog Joe Manchin in a TYT interview. Bernie, on the other hand, has gone on record saying he would use FDR-like tactics to fight for Medicare for All, including primarying other Democrats.

* Warren is a standard neoliberal on foreign policy: Implied Iran broke deal she voted to unilaterally violate terms of, will not condition aid to Israel, will not ease sanctions on Venezuela. etc. etc.


  • Erowind likes this

#549
johnnd

johnnd

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 45 posts

@BernieSanders
 

Thanks for all the well wishes. I'm feeling good. I'm fortunate to have good health care and great doctors and nurses helping me to recover.

None of us know when a medical emergency might affect us. And no one should fear going bankrupt if it occurs. Medicare for All!

 

 

https://twitter.com/...494005064847361



#550
johnnd

johnnd

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 45 posts

Kamala Harris asks crowd if America is ready for her presidency.

Crowd shouts: "No!"

 

https://twitter.com/...853000115924992

 

I guess America was not ready for her radical milquetoast centrism...

 

Reminds me of the Jeb "please clap" moment.



#551
wjfox

wjfox

    Administrator

  • Administrators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,609 posts
  • LocationLondon

Bernie Sanders: Senator, 78, had a heart attack, doctors confirm

 

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders underwent emergency surgery after suffering a heart attack, his campaign has confirmed.

The senator was taken to hospital on Tuesday after complaining of chest pain at a campaign event in Nevada.

Doctors operated on Mr Sanders, 78, to remove a blockage in one of his arteries.

Mr Sanders said he was feeling "great" after leaving hospital on Friday.

His doctors said "two stents were placed in a blocked coronary artery in a timely fashion".

 

https://www.bbc.co.u...canada-49943243

 

 

k9fKDWC.jpg



#552
caltrek

caltrek

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,742 posts

Microsoft Says Iranian Hackers Are Targeting a 2020 Presidential Campaign
 

https://www.motherjo...kers-microsoft/

 

(Mother Jones) Microsoft announced Friday that it had uncovered a hacking group associated with the Iranian government that had targeted journalists, current and former government officials, and at least one US presidential campaign.

 

The company released a statement saying that four consumer Microsoft email accounts had been compromised by a group its calling “Phosphorous,” but that those accounts did not belong to anyone associated with a presidential campaign or the government. The attackers were first observed making more than 2,700 attempts to identify specific Microsoft accounts over a 30-day period beginning in August, Microsoft said, and then targeted 241 specific accounts with phishing emails, fake LinkedIn accounts, and password-reset requests.

 

 “While the attacks we’re disclosing today were not technically sophisticated, they attempted to use a significant amount of personal information both to identify the accounts belonging to their intended targets and in a few cases to attempt attacks,” wrote Tom Burt, a Microsoft vice president overseeing customer security. “This effort suggests Phosphorous is highly motivated and willing to invest significant time and resources.”

 

The Democratic National Committee also issued a warning to campaigns on Friday revealing that the committee had been contacted by Microsoft, suggesting they check system logs for a related IP address, and offering advice as to how to defend against such attacks.


The principles of justice define an appropriate path between dogmatism and intolerance on the one side, and a reductionism which regards religion and morality as mere preferences on the other.   - John Rawls


#553
caltrek

caltrek

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,742 posts

Warren Comes Out Swinging for Labor at California Town Hall

 

https://www.courthou...rnia-town-hall/

 

Extract:

 

SAN DIEGO (Courthouse News) — Walking onstage as the sun set on San Diego Bay Thursday and loudspeakers played Dolly Parton’s “9 to 5,” Democratic presidential contender Senator Elizabeth Warren shared personal stories with California voters about financial troubles her family faced and how her labor plan could help others like her.

 

….On the day she released her labor policy plan this week, Warren was endorsed by labor-backed California Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez, whose aggressive bill aimed at ensuring protections for gig economy workers was recently signed into law by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

 

Gonzalez called Warren’s policy plan, “the best labor worker plan I’ve ever seen in my entire life,” when she introduced the presidential candidate to a crowd of thousands of San Diegans gathered at the downtown Waterfront Park.

 

When Warren came on stage she said Gonzalez’s AB5, which will take effect Jan. 1, will improve the lives of California workers.

 

…“If there is a decision to be made in Washington, it has been made by money. That is corruption, and that’s why I’m in this fight,” Warren said.


The principles of justice define an appropriate path between dogmatism and intolerance on the one side, and a reductionism which regards religion and morality as mere preferences on the other.   - John Rawls


#554
caltrek

caltrek

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,742 posts

Warren Just Behind Sanders With 3rd Quarter Funding Haul

 

https://www.courthou...r-funding-haul/

 

Extract:

 

(Courthouse News) Democratic presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren raised $24.6 million from 943,000 donations this quarter, her campaign announced Friday. 

 

…Lau said the campaign received an average contribution of $26 from more than half a million people. More than 300,000 of those third-quarter donors made their first-ever contribution. Lau also noted Warren’s grassroots campaign didn’t take any money from Washington lobbyists, corporate political action committees or any other PACs. 

 

…Both Warren and lefty rival Bernie Sanders claim to be 100% grassroots-funded, a term without a firm definition but emphasized by the campaigns as eschewing donations from groups like drug companies and fossil fuel executives, while also refusing to hold closed-door fundraisers. Both have used funds left over from previous campaigns held before they refused big donors, The Washington Post reported last month. 

 

Sanders and Warren combined raised about $50 million this quarter, while high-dollar fundraisers Kamala Harris, Joe Biden and Pete Buttigeg raised just $46 million combined, CNN political correspondent MJ Lee noted.

 

Sanders led the way in donations this quarter, raking in $25.3 million, followed by Warren. Former Vice President Joe Biden, leading in most polls, collected just $15 million, behind Mayor Pete Buttigeg of South Bend, Indiana, whose haul totaled $19 million.


The principles of justice define an appropriate path between dogmatism and intolerance on the one side, and a reductionism which regards religion and morality as mere preferences on the other.   - John Rawls


#555
johnnd

johnnd

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 45 posts

This is not a very substantive post - but it is sometimes good to remember just how extraordinary and rare of a candidate (in American politics) Bernie is:

 

https://www.currenta...rnie-has-to-win

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=3ZhkKATtqtU


  • Erowind likes this

#556
johnnd

johnnd

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 45 posts

Q3 Democratic fundraising numbers are in:

 

https://i.imgur.com/vDv0JV6.jpg

 

Man, Biden at $15.2 million beat Yang by just $5 million. He's in big trouble!

 

Edit: Warren is not included in this graphic, but she came in second just after Bernie @ $24.6 million.



#557
Jessica

Jessica

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 776 posts

WI-Fox News: Trump -4 to -9

 

https://www.foxbusin...ting-us-economy

48% Biden
39% Trump

45% Sanders
40% Trump

45% Warren
41% Trump

Trump approval: 44-54

Trump only winning rural areas by 2 points (he won them by 27 in 2016).



#558
johnnd

johnnd

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 45 posts

Biden: "No indication of any conflict of interest"

 

https://twitter.com/...886685162319872

 

Yeah, Joe, that's not how it works. The conflict of interest is not the part that's deniable.



#559
Jessica

Jessica

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 776 posts
Trump's Rural Support In Wisconsin Has Completely Collapsed
 

Trump’s Rural Support In Wisconsin Has Completely Collapsed

Trump has lost 25 points of support with rural voters as Joe Biden leads him in the Badger State by nine percent, 48%-39% in a new Fox News poll of the state.

https://www.politicu...consin.html/amp

Via Fox News:

"SNIP.....

Trump won rural voters by 27 points in 2016. They now back him over Biden by only 2 points.

By a 19-point margin, Wisconsin voters think tariffs hurt rather than help the economy, and more oppose building a wall along the southern border by 10 points.


….

Voters who say tariffs hurt the economy prefer Biden by a 61-point margin. Those who think tariffs help support Trump by 65.

Trump beat Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin by less than one percentage point, making him the first Republican to win the state since 1984. Ninety-two percent of Clinton voters back Biden, while 83 percent of Trump voters stick with him.

 



#560
Jessica

Jessica

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 776 posts
Former Rep. Joe Walsh, one of the Republicans challenging President Donald Trump for the party's nomination in the 2020 presidential race, called the incumbent president "a traitor" and said he'd vote to impeach him if he was still in Congress.

"This is a strong term I'm going to use, but I'm going to say it on purpose: Donald Trump is a traitor," Walsh said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."

 


https://www.politico...-sanford-032524






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users