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In the future and especially in the farther future, what do you expect human sexuality to look like? Do you think that we'll be able to alter human sexual orientations? If so, what effect is this going to have on the population? For instance, are many people going to voluntarily become bisexual in such a scenario?



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In the far future, I think there will be a merging of most or all conscious life forms, and an embrace of all forms of sexuality, as well as widespread asexuality among intelligent machines and some humans who see it as a waste of time. 


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Sexuality may evolve into something more transcendent than it is now. 


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Sexuality may evolve into something more transcendent than it is now. 

Can you please elaborate on this?



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Your usage of the term 'bisexual' is throwing me off. Are you referring to sexuality like "heterosexuality" or sexuality such as "unisexual"? Because there's a big difference. 

I'm leaning towards you meant the latter. If so, yes there will be new sexualities in the future, especially as we begin altering chromosomes. IMHO, hermaphrodites will become an actuathing sometime in the near future, as will the emergence of truly asexual humans— those engineered sans any sexual characteristics.


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c. 2010-2030  LGBTQAI rights become normalized in everyday society. (We are already making strides. In this year on the 6th of September, India decriminalized homosexuality)

 

c.2040's Sex with robots has become commonplace and pedophilia is treated with children resembling robots.

 

c.2070's Scientist learn how to turn "on" and "off" sexuality allowing people to chose  what they want to be. Some choose to stay one way and their is another period of time where their is homophobia and heterophobia.

 

c.2100 It cools back down as humans discover other sexualities

 

c.2500 Sexual reproduction through sex is no longer needed. People become celibate.



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c. 2010-2030  LGBTQAI rights become normalized in everyday society. (We are already making strides. In this year on the 6th of September, India decriminalized homosexuality)

 

c.2040's Sex with robots has become commonplace and pedophilia is treated with children resembling robots.

 

c.2070's Scientist learn how to turn "on" and "off" sexuality allowing people to chose  what they want to be. Some choose to stay one way and their is another period of time where their is homophobia and heterophobia.

 

c.2100 It cools back down as humans discover other sexualities

 

c.2500 Sexual reproduction through sex is no longer needed. People become celibate.

Where did this come from? 


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Just play Trials in Tainted Space and see how far human perversion can go. After playing that game, I can't take any structure on sexuality seriously.

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c. 2010-2030  LGBTQAI rights become normalized in everyday society. (We are already making strides. In this year on the 6th of September, India decriminalized homosexuality)
 
c.2040's Sex with robots has become commonplace and pedophilia is treated with children resembling robots.
 
c.2070's Scientist learn how to turn "on" and "off" sexuality allowing people to chose  what they want to be. Some choose to stay one way and their is another period of time where their is homophobia and heterophobia.
 
c.2100 It cools back down as humans discover other sexualities
 
c.2500 Sexual reproduction through sex is no longer needed. People become celibate.


The connotation of queer sexuality and illegal paraphilias shouldn't be tolerated.

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Your usage of the term 'bisexual' is throwing me off. Are you referring to sexuality like "heterosexuality" or sexuality such as "unisexual"? Because there's a big difference. 

I'm leaning towards you meant the latter. If so, yes there will be new sexualities in the future, especially as we begin altering chromosomes. IMHO, hermaphrodites will become an actuathing sometime in the near future, as will the emergence of truly asexual humans— those engineered sans any sexual characteristics.

I mean sexuality like heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, et cetera.



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In which case, I can't imagine what future sexualities might be like. You'd think we already cover them right now, unless you create new genders feel sexual attraction towards.

Maybe it's because I come at this looking at it from the perspective of a robosexual Singularitarian, but I never seriously call myself a "robosexual". There's only so many —sexualities possible. At some point, you'd just be trying to make yourself fit into your own special little box. And like I said, without actual engineering on a cellular level, that just isn't a thing at the moment.


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yeah i have a feeling sex might be less liked in the future considering the stuff going on in japan. maybe porn might be banned along with media that depicts sexual elements. i could be wrong and people become more and more perverted.  



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c. 2010-2030 LGBTQAI rights become normalized in everyday society. (We are already making strides. In this year on the 6th of September, India decriminalized homosexuality)

c.2040's Sex with robots has become commonplace and pedophilia is treated with children resembling robots.

c.2070's Scientist learn how to turn "on" and "off" sexuality allowing people to chose what they want to be. Some choose to stay one way and their is another period of time where their is homophobia and heterophobia.

c.2100 It cools back down as humans discover other sexualities

c.2500 Sexual reproduction through sex is no longer needed. People become celibate.

The connotation of queer sexuality and illegal paraphilias shouldn't be tolerated.

Separate the posts.

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Pedophilia and Incest aren’t good obviously but I believe they are inherent and part of sexuality. They aren’t demons in your head making you perform evil acts. They are neurobioloigal conditions like heterosexuality, bisexuality, transsexuality etc.

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To be honest, I think that sex may become somewhat less important to people in general. Mind you, I might be projecting here based on my own perspective and tendencies, but I can't imagine people living for the sex thrill as much as they do now when there's so much cool stuff out there. Having one night stands or go colonize Mars? Yeah, I know which one I'd choose. In general, I think we are headed towards a society which slowly frees itself from biological imperatives and drives, the drive to reproduce being one of the main driving factors of life being no exemption.

 

I've been openly living my homosexuality, got a girlfriend, friends and family know and while oftentimes it's not an issue anymore, I still encounter some walls here and there. So I think the most likely prediction is that acceptance will become more widespread, with small splintergroups wanting traditional "values" to be upheld, which means that splinter group extremism may be on the rise. 


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There's definitely truth in that...


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To be honest, I think that sex may become somewhat less important to people in general. Mind you, I might be projecting here based on my own perspective and tendencies, but I can't imagine people living for the sex thrill as much as they do now when there's so much cool stuff out there. Having one night stands or go colonize Mars? Yeah, I know which one I'd choose. In general, I think we are headed towards a society which slowly frees itself from biological imperatives and drives, the drive to reproduce being one of the main driving factors of life being no exemption.
 
I've been openly living my homosexuality, got a girlfriend, friends and family know and while oftentimes it's not an issue anymore, I still encounter some walls here and there. So I think the most likely prediction is that acceptance will become more widespread, with small splintergroups wanting traditional "values" to be upheld, which means that splinter group extremism may be on the rise.

I used to believe this, but then I became enlightened about just how sexual humans are. Even when we eschew our sexuality, we are driven by it. That old sci-fi trope of a future society of sexless humans is utterly unlikely unless we engineer ourselves to be that way.
In other words, it will never become less important to people. If anything, the incredible advancement of technology has only made sex more important to people.
 
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200 years ago, when 90% of the planet lived in extreme poverty that was fundamentally unchanged from the times of the Romans, what was sex? It was one of your only outlets to have fun. But the problem was that it always seemed to either cause pain or bring about babies. It wasn't until roughly the 1900s that we understood that sex is what creates babies— before then, it was considered to be something that correlated with childbirth but conception itself was seen more as a miracle. This same mindset persists in underdeveloped nations today where they flat out have a hard time believing sex makes babies. 
We know better, but we also have means of making it so that you don't conceive a child. We also have treatments for STDs, something that people of that age thought of as being more like a punishment for unrelated sins. You have to remember, people of this day still thought that animals spontaneously generated out of the mud. Not proto-lifeforms that come alive under perfect conditions in a hot, electrified primordial soup— I mean they literally thought frogs just appeared from the dirt. They didn't understand things well.
 
To their eyes, imagine our world today, a time where you can hop to distant lands they'd never even heard of for a few hundred bucks. Yet what do we often spend that money to do? Have sex with exotic strippers. We have moved from printed books to whole multimedia overload, and what is the biggest market? The sex industry. We have smartphones, these nigh-magical devices capable of so much and giving humans godlike knowledge, and yet the thing humans predominantly do with them is view porn, sext, and exchange dirty jokes. 
 
So if anything, in the future, people will likely book a flight to Mars for the purpose of having a one-night stand. Why fuck a prostitute in Bangkok when you could fuck a prostitute by the Tharsis Montes? And if you think I'm wrong, well I'm sorry to say that all of human history— indeed, all of primate history— begs to differ. This won't change. Not without full-fledged engineering of our biology. And by that point, you're bringing up a different can of worms entirely.
Humans, at least Sapiens, are just too impossibly sexual. Our culture and entertainment likes to sanitize that to make it seem like sex is just a peripheral thing, but it's just a fact. We're a lot like bonobos in that sex is too ingrained in our social culture for us to ever limit it without external means of biological reprogramming. 
 
 

Mind you, I might be projecting here based on my own perspective and tendencies, but I can't imagine people living for the sex thrill as much as they do now when there's so much cool stuff out there

I'm afraid that has come through quite well, or maybe the forum as a whole has started to get rather insulated from the realities on the ground. The cold fact is that so much of "the cool stuff" will be specifically engineered for sex or have some variant made for sexual purposes. Any depiction of the future where that isn't the case (and it isn't explained through transhumanism) is either hilariously out of touch with reality, too utopian for its own good, or coming from a puritanical or sheltered mind.


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since we seem to be brainstorming options, here is my two cents-

 

inherent in the assigning a sexuality is the assumption of a position on the gender spectrum as well as the sex spectrum (gender being distinct from sex and sexuality).

 

so your gender spectrum tends to run: non-gendered neuter, various gradations of female gender identity, varying degrees of intersexed (incorrectly often labeled hermaphrodite), varying degrees of male gender identity, non gendered androgyne. the differences between neuter and androgynous are that neuter as I'm using it here tend to identify as lacking gender, androgynous combine the two things rather than approach them from an oppositional stand point. and the intersexed catagory in gender identity rather than sex identity is more about not picking a side while also not combining existing models or having a lack of gender.

 

your sex spectrum sort of runs the same: neuter, female, intersexed, male, (in this case sex being defined by physical characteristics means theres only really the four points of some male, some female, both or neither).

 

now with those as base sets, defining the sexuality of a non gendered intersexed person who is only attracted to females... are they hetero or homosexual? How about a man who is attracted to women and intersexed people but not men?  A woman who is bisexual for men and women but doesn't like neuter or intersexed? Somebody who likes every possible permutation of human in these catagories?

 

Now lets complicate (or simplify) this further. Given a technology level sufficiently advanced, we can construct any variant we want of sex. We can have android and gynoids in any variety of those form and those that eschew trying to replicate humanoid physiology. and we move into realms of humans opting to take less human forms, from furries taking anthropomorphic animal forms to cyborgs and entirely different structure (some people art artists and their medium is their own body). with this new layer you bring the possibility of cyborg 'hermaphrodites' who are only attracted to shemale furries who identify as female gendered; and asexual intersexed androgynes in relationships with bisexual a non-humanoid robot who also has relationships with a gender fluid man who likes sex with bots and other men only.

 

It's also likely at some point if at all possible people would choose to turn off their sexuality temporarily. Not everybody, because for some people that would be sort of wounding to their identity. But when you are filling out data sheets for your job for 8 hours, there is not much use for getting turned on by the woman fixing the robot in the corner (which ever of the two, or both, gets you excited) and it's a distraction. Turning that off wouldn't even be a huge obvious on off switch, but really more of a puff on an inhaler at shift start means you just don't have thoughts about it until after work when it wears off.

 

Some people may choose long term asexuality that they will reverse when they have established a career and life they are happy with and are now looking to do the relationship thing.

 

I'm not sure there will ever be a method of changing a persons sexuality, voluntarily or otherwise. You can abstain from acting on drives with people and you can have sex with people you are not sexually interested in voluntarily or out of peer pressure, but in the end the you want what you want. But for the most part I imagine that the most control we will get is akin to volume control.


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​Did I post in this thread? I though I had did it get deleted? It may have been rude?

 

 

with this new layer you bring the possibility of cyborg 'hermaphrodites' who are only attracted to shemale furries who identify as female gendered; and asexual intersexed androgynes in relationships with bisexual a non-humanoid robot who also has relationships with a gender fluid man who likes sex with bots and other men only.

This sums up what I would have said. With full biological control of ourselves everything becomes difficult to define and keep track of.

 

When we are living in a world where gender (which I basically take to mean "the set of expectations and assumptions you and society have for your behaviour and personality") is so fragmented people will stop making a lot of the more specific assumptions we make today. 

 

Coupled with sex becoming much more fragmented or just more fluid along with the ability to essentially branch ourselves off into our own private species (biologically speaking) keeping track of stuff will get so complicated that you'll just give up trying to box people up into categories I think. 

 

The question: "What sexuality are you?" will have a half hour answer involving a lot of "and I quite like A, but I saw one person who had A but also had B which was a no for me, and one time I went through a bit of a phase where C was great but I'm getting more into D these days" etc. where the letters could be anything from personality traits to specific body parts. 






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