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Poll: Trump (22 member(s) have cast votes)

Your feeling towards Trump

  1. Positive (6 votes [27.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  2. Negative (16 votes [72.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 72.73%

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For 54 years no president, Republican or Democrat, would release the JFK files. What was so awful in those files that they couldn't be released even after most of the people involved would be dead already? Yet Trump released those files within months of getting elected. This suggests that all presidents between JFK and Trump were just pawns of the system that wanted to keep secrets from the public, which therefore suggests Trump is not such a pawn. I'll give a thumbs up to Trump. Note also that the FBI still pressured Trump *not* to release those files even after president Trump ordered them released! (https://www.washingt...bbb9_story.html) Again, that suggests that someone other than the president and American public is pulling the strings of power at a very high level. Frightening implications if that's true.



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To say Trump "does" anything is really missing the point. It's like saying Obama "does" anything. To say that either of these people actually matter in the decision making process is to ignore that they're both controlled by a myriad of lobbying interests and have little to no free will over the decision making processes they're part of. That is by definition how corrupt democracies work. Trump is a figurehead like many presidents before him, as is his whole administration. If they tried passing laws that were anti-capitalist in nature they'd be deposed by a "glorious revolution" of free market thumpers lead by paid revolutionaries within a week. That last bit is an exaggeration, the reality would be more subtle, but the concept shines through.

Voting doesn't matter, politicians don't represent their constituents or democratic values, they themselves have zero control. In this sense, saying the president does anything makes no sense, they in actuality do literally nothing but as act as a proxy for external influence. To do something implies agency over that thing.

To support Trump or Obama or any other politician in an oligarchical system is a form of self harm. Because by supporting them, one cedes their own desire to have any agency over their own life--in effect, submitting themselves to both material and psychological slavery. The end result is to give up the ability and natural right to enact one's own will, as by submitting to oligarchy one submits to the domination of another's will, dehumanizing oneself and ultimately withdrawing from the world in a form of spiritual suicide.
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Beautiful tags by the way, eacao. I just noticed them.
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Voting doesn't matter, politicians don't represent their constituents or democratic values, they themselves have zero control.

 

So true.

 

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Voting doesn't matter, politicians don't represent their constituents or democratic values, they themselves have zero control.

 

So true.

 

 

 

 

Seeing that two people took interest, here's my source for why the U.S is an Oligarchy.

 

https://scholar.prin...olitics.doc.pdf

Reading the abstract is enough to get the idea.


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For 54 years no president, Republican or Democrat, would release the JFK files. What was so awful in those files that they couldn't be released even after most of the people involved would be dead already? Yet Trump released those files within months of getting elected. This suggests that all presidents between JFK and Trump were just pawns of the system that wanted to keep secrets from the public, which therefore suggests Trump is not such a pawn. I'll give a thumbs up to Trump. Note also that the FBI still pressured Trump *not* to release those files even after president Trump ordered them released! (https://www.washingt...bbb9_story.html) Again, that suggests that someone other than the president and American public is pulling the strings of power at a very high level. Frightening implications if that's true.

Um... I feel like you should maybe read up a bit more on this?

 

Unless I'm getting different sets of JFK files confused, these files were due to be released from an action that took place in 1992? So George Bush sr. is the anti-deep state president (which seems unlikely). 

 

Also there was nothing in those files so far that conflicted with the official account of things, so ​if​ there was some sinister deep state organisation that killed JFK they are clearly firmly in control of trump and preventing him releasing any of the "Real evidence" making him just the same as every other US president?



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There won't be any war... these claims are as unfounded as Rec's claims about a financial collapse.

 

Exactly what "claims" are you talking about?


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oh god i pressed the wrong one

 

hnnnng

 

real answer is negative.



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oh god i pressed the wrong one

 

hnnnng

 

real answer is negative.

 

It's too late to complain... (infernal laughter)



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KEEP AMERICA GREAT


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Trump's America is the very definition of degeneracy.


And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.






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