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I could actually see this becoming reality in the distant future. If, generally speaking, consumer technologies and AI will increasingly focus on satisfying individual preferences (e.g. - FIVR game where you're the only player and you're always #1), then why should it extend to the foods and drinks you consume? 

 

 

Cohen, an enthusiastic foodie, says our AI-enabled future will be more tasty than creepy. “Everything is going into targeted, niche. There’ll always be a beer you like more, and it won’t be the same as for me,” he says. “Far from being a dystopian nightmare, there will be better products for everyone.”

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Really interesting challenge to try and define flavour in an objective way

 

In the long run I hope this sort of system could be matched with an system where you break down chemical/molecular configurations of foods and then eventually you can design a food molecule and the AI will tell you if it tastes nice! (or ask the AI what molecule tastes the nicest to you and have it answer correctly, even if you don't know)

 

This AI Driven stuff would be boosted/developed for the customised medicine people are hoping will improve everything. 

 

Once we have the tech in place to select a specific drug that works best for your DNA/lifestyle/Age/etc for medical issues, then combine it with data on people's favourite foods and their flavour profiles, we could build a flavour map for someone and then determine the best match in terms of flavour in all the different categories of food. then link that to recipes which tell you how to create the right flavours!

 

You'd need to enter a lot of info on your tastes to get it set up (since which tastes you prefer is not genetic) but it  could be that people of the future will have vastly more enjoyment from food and drink than we get today!



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Why do we need to wait for advances in AI to customize food to our liking when something like this abomination can already be created?

 

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mmm... drink up!



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RIP acquired tastes.

But seriously, I feel that this trend in futurism where there is need to make everything pleasurable as much as possible with AI, clearly shows this hedonistic streak in consumer society. Pleasure is not everything, and being led down a more isolated taste for the sake of achieving perfect pleasure seems like it does so against experimentation and curiosity of foods/ingredients one may or may not like.

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I'll be waiting for molecule assemblers like in Star trek to make any dish I wish within a few minutes tops. 

 

We frankly can already put together any dish we wish, but what will take out the middle guy(times a thousand!) will be the molecule assembler.

 

Middle guy?

-Famers

-Truck drivers

-People working at the store

etc



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RIP acquired tastes.

But seriously, I feel that this trend in futurism where there is need to make everything pleasurable as much as possible with AI, clearly shows this hedonistic streak in consumer society. Pleasure is not everything, and being led down a more isolated taste for the sake of achieving perfect pleasure seems like it does so against experimentation and curiosity of foods/ingredients one may or may not like.

I don't see how this would affect acquired tastes any more than food which tastes good the first time?

 

Just as many people would use this sort of tech to randomise flavours (Every flavour Jellybeans could be a thing IRL!) probably very few people would use this to isolate a few ideal meals and then eat only those. 

 

All this sort of system might do is make it so, once you have tested large numbers of different flavours, the AI would be able to predict weather or not you would like something without you trying it. The ideal use for this is a "Surprise me!" function which presents you with something you have never tried, but which you will probably like.

 

You could be trying interesting new meals every day for the rest of your life! (if that's what floats your boat?)



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I'm not talking about every flavour jellybean, I'm talking about everything being tailored to your specific wants and desires, and the larger impact it may have, especially in consideration with consumerism.

Outlook's secret song of the ~week: https://youtu.be/DGe_Sluth3A


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AH i see, my take is that either it willl just be more effecive consumerism (you get more happiness for consuming stuff because its exactly the right stuff to maximise your enjoyment)

 

Or, Ideally, it will result in people realising that having craploads of material stuff is actually not particularly fulfilling, and hopefully we will mature as a species.

 

That's not very likely though, so I think we just need to hope that all the custom tailored stuff means we start doing less of the single use, throwaway junk type stuff and more tailored bespoke product that is designed for you and you use for as long as possible. This might allow us to make some sort of effort at a sustainable society which could be super useful for future generations who want to go outside. 

 

not holding my breath though. We may just go for ever cheaper (but worse) products and services. 


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No way, Jose. Part of my love for food is trying new foods and having no idea whether I will like it or not. Plus, I don't think their will ever be a way to make the "perfect" meal for someone. Food tasting is psychological and human minds are very judgy.



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No way, Jose. Part of my love for food is trying new foods and having no idea whether I will like it or not. Plus, I don't think their will ever be a way to make the "perfect" meal for someone. Food tasting is psychological and human minds are very judgy.

Which is where BCI tech comes in.


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No way, Jose. Part of my love for food is trying new foods and having no idea whether I will like it or not. Plus, I don't think their will ever be a way to make the "perfect" meal for someone. Food tasting is psychological and human minds are very judgy.

 

Are you against the idea of trying to do this? or do you believe it will not be possible?   (or both?)

 

Because, giving people more customised/customisable options, doesn't mean lowering their choices. The soda machines you get in fast food places these days, are self service, and have 100+ flavours, whereas before you ordered them directly at the counter, from a choice of about 6. More customisation usually means more choice.

 

Its the difference between ordering a meal you have never tried and eating the best version of that meal for you, or having to order the new meal from 50 different restaurants before you can figure out if you like that meal, and if so, which version you like best.



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"I see a lot of people applying machine learning around flavor and nutrition in recipe development," Lange said.

 
Lange said this could take off even more with better standards and data sharing to map flavors and aromas, opening up new possibilities for "personalized" foods and recipes that offer better flavor, nutrition and stainability.
 
"If we have the ability to 'play back' flavor and aroma it will create a veritable explosion in technology and the business models," he said.
 
"Imaging being able to dial in (the preferred flavors and aromas) to create a sauce just to your liking," he said. "Maybe you want to create something to have a sense of the beach, so this becomes an experience."
 
MIT's de la Parra said the notion of AI-personalized food is not likely soon.
 
"Personalized food on the individual level is a lofty goal," he said.
 
"To be done well, it would require large amounts of personal data, much of which might be complicated by questions of privacy and security. It is more likely, in the foreseeable future, that AI would be used to predict broad trends in consumer trends and tastes."

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Coincidentally, today I learned that there is a surprisingly strong genetic component to dietary behavior, by which I mean the types of foods people like and the quantities of them they like to eat. Once personal assistant AIs start monitoring the food preferences of individual humans to optimize their diets, the amount of data will massively increase, and we'll learn much more about the strength and nature of this genetic effect. 

 

One of the studies: https://academic.oup...12/2406/4670171


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