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Elon Musk's "Loop" - It's bad, folks


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https://youtu.be/4dn6ZVpJLxs

 

Skepticism! Yay!

 

But also addresses the issue present in many future engineering "solutions" by simplifying it into the phrase: AM/FM, or Actual Machines and Fucking Magic.


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I found this boring.


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All those stumbling blocks will be circumvented anyway.


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I found this boring.

 

All those stumbling blocks will be circumvented anyway.

 

Glad to see some deep thinking going on with Musk fans.


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The Loop is a bit dumb, but working on boring technology is smart. I agree that the Loop is not going to be a viable solution to traffic in the short term, but it makes sense to eventually build downwards in dense cities. It's just too slow and expensive at the moment. I'm pretty sure Musk is developing the Boring Co., Hyperloop and the Loop as long-term side projects that may work in the future. I mean if he seriously thought they were great short-term business ideas he would be setting aside money and time towards them. Instead, they are just little pet side-projects with the Boring Co. funded by hats and flamethrowers and the Hyperloop being developed by student engineering competitions. People need to take Elon's enthusiasm and ridiculous optimism with a grain of salt. Of course, if he can convince a city to invest in the development of one of these systems then he is going to. 


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Not been able to watch all of it, from what i did see, I like how the guy is trying to be methodical and in depth in his analysis, but his delivery is maybe a bit too monotone. 

 

That said, the AM/FM thing seems to be an argument that you effectively can't try and achieve anything for which machines don't currently exist?

 

If you'd looked at the plans for reusable rockets, that would have been FM until the time and effort were put in to make AMs that could do what was needed. So now space is cheaper to get to.

 

I'd take the AM/FM idea as an argument on weather or not to implement a hyperloop or boring underground road network in your city today. If that's your question then sure they're not viable technologies. 

 

The boring idea requires

A) better tunnelling equipment (not radically, just improvements on existing tech)

B) small underground electric trains you can park cars on that move around their tunnels very quickly. (In the Channel Tunnel, we have whole full size trains full of cars moving through massive tunnels, so all the key parts exist, you just need to miniaturise them) 

 

I wouldn't say he has planned anything that is beyond the realms of physical possibility, or even that is beyond the realm of 10-30 years of scientific progress.

 

As for Hyperloop, its just a way to allow trains to avoid the speed limitations of air resistance and therefore compete with aircraft for speed. (Aircraft are another example of FM until someone made AMs) 






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